Allowed or not?
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Difficult to answer unanimously on this.
You will hear all sorts of arguments, justifications, viewpoints, rants, finger-pointings and reasonings for or against it.
Basically, camera photos are fine for documentary purposes (ID, Passport etc.) by most scholars. Some argue that hand paintings of Living object is something that is not allowed but taking a picture is different. You are just capturing the reflection, not making something with your hand.
Another group's view is that it's the idol making that is actually prohibited.
So get set go :-D
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Peace Muzna,
Depends for what purpose.
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Narrated Ibn Abbas: Abu Talha, a companion of Allah’s Apostle and one of those who fought at Badr together with Allah’s Apostle told me that Allah’s Apostle said. “Angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog or a picture” He meant the images of creatures that have souls. Sahih Bukhari 5:59:338
Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 34 :: Hadith 428
Narrated Said bin Abu Al-Hasan:
While I was with Ibn 'Abbas a man came and said, “O father of 'Abbas! My sustenance is from my manual profession and I make these pictures.” Ibn 'Abbas said, "I will tell you only what I heard from Allah’s Apostle . I heard him saying, ‘Whoever makes a picture will be punished by Allah till he puts life in it, and he will never be able to put life in it.’ " Hearing this, that man heaved a sigh and his face turned pale. Ibn 'Abbas said to him, “What a pity! If you insist on making pictures I advise you to make pictures of trees and any other unanimated objects.”
I used to draw portraits,paintings of different living creature but after hearing about the above facts I left it.
appearing in photos are allowed or not I don’t know about it.
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Peace pakiiza
for quoting the hadith ![]()
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Just an addition, that Ulema says that there is a difference in Zahir and Baatin, meaning that if picture is hidden (like pics on currency notes in your wallet, id cards in pockets) then they dont come under the same ruling a pictures that are hanging from the wall or displayed in a photo frame.
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^ how about picture for ID
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Peace kchughtai,
In think picture on ID also fall in same category as TLK bhai said.
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^ That is ok because its majboori. That is what I heard.
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your responses make it clear that pictures are not prohibited in absolute sense of the word.
our guide in this case should be the following verse of holy Quran
23:4) And who shun all that which is vain ('laghw'),
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Great thread Muzna.
I understand why we cannot have photographs displayed out in our living rooms and such for we pray namaz and don't want to be in a position where we're doing sajda and there's a picture in front. Then there's the hadeeth that angels don't enter the homes where pictures are displayed. Don't wanna miss out on that.
My problem is when some people start coloring out photos inside books, I don't get it.
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why people make ALLAH so limited --ALLAH knew well what is before and after ALLAH knew well what will be in Future -- How important the Picture will be -in forensic people have to make sketches of criminal to identify them to public of their danger and presences--people with criminal records have pictures and sometimes sketches --and You name it --we certainly need identifications and even on this forum the avatars are present and pictures-every computer you turn on there are pictures aids ect you keep naming it you keep finding them -------Knowledge without Wisdom is nothing anyway I have posted an Ayat from Quran of Statues and images--34:13
Sahih International
They made for him what he willed of elevated chambers,** statues**, bowls like reservoirs, and stationary kettles. [We said], "Work, O family of David, in gratitude." And few of My servants are grateful.
Muhsin Khan
They worked for him what he desired, (making) high rooms,** images,** basins as large as reservoirs, and (cooking) cauldrons fixed (in their places). "Work you, O family of Dawud (David), with thanks!" But few of My slaves are grateful.
Pickthall
They made for him what he willed: synagogues and statues, basins like wells and boilers built into the ground. Give thanks, O House of David! Few of My bondmen are thankful.
Yusuf Ali
They worked for him as he desired, (making) arches, images, basons as large as reservoirs, and (cooking) cauldrons fixed (in their places): "Work ye, sons of David, with thanks! but few of My servants are grateful!"
Shakir
They made for him what he pleased of fortresses and images, and bowls (large) as watering-troughs and cooking-pots that will not move from their place; give thanks, O family of Dawood! and very few of My servants are grateful.
Dr. Ghali
Making (Literally: between) for him whatever he decided: chambers and statues, and bowls like water-troughs, and anchored cauldrons. "Do (righteousness), House of Dawud, in thankfulness; and few of My bondmen are constantly thankful."
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My problem is when some people start coloring out photos inside books, I don't get it.
hain????
what do you mean?
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I and my younger bro used to make funny mustaches, beards, and creative stuff around the pictures of people published in news paper in Pakitan when I and him were little ![]()
Like this one time, there was a full sized picture of Zardari with his mouth open, hands in in the front about a six or seven inches apart from each other vertically as in the position when you grab something from side.. My brother’s wild imagination created a masterpiece out of it. After he was done, Zardari had taao shuda moochein, umro aiyar style beard, tears dropping from eyes, his hand had strings streched in between just like when you are trying to make “mor ka panja” from a thread ( I hope you know what I mean), and his tongue sticking out and trying to manipulate the strings to get the desired result. It was a classic, I should have framed it.
I think that type of behavior is what NikSik was refering to ![]()
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NO, I wasn't referring to that ^^. I meant that people black out the eyes, nose and mouth of faces in image books so as to keep in line with the no photos concept.
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^ people actually do that?????
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My view is that the spirit of the hadith is to prevent people from worshiping the images. My understanding is that back in those days, people worshiped anything and everything including images and statues. In this day and age, no one would ever think of worshiping photos and it is ok to have photos. I think it is still a bad idea to have photos hanging in front of you when you are praying.
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Peace chacha_ghalib,
Have u ever heard there some professionals are making portriat from deceased ash (real ash). One way or another those might than whatever is good happening to them is due to that portriat i.e., ash of their deceased.