solid column with some real data and legitimate questions…Imran has been championing this new pakistan but wth no solid plan and no understanding of our cultural dynamics
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okay... angraiz "research" kar ke police act bana ke chalay gaye.... lekin ham nahi kar sakayn gai?
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summary plz...too much to read!
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summary plz...too much to read!
Same old, same old.... problems in Pakistan. 1,2,3,4,5......
OMG, Imran Khan does not have the answers to these problems!!!!
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Same old, same old.... problems in Pakistan. 1,2,3,4,5......
OMG, Imran Khan does not have the answers to these problems!!!!
lol...vaise, agar baat tabdeelii kii hai to yuN kahiye k sivaaye IK ke koii aur maaii kaa laal peelaa hai hii nahiiN jo ise laa sake! hai na gajar baTToo? :p
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lol...vaise, agar baat tabdeelii kii hai to yuN kahiye k sivaaye IK ke koii aur maaii kaa laal peelaa hai hii nahiiN jo ise laa sake! hai na gajar baTToo? :p
Its not about that. We all know what the problems of Pakistan are. Nothing new.
It is just a click bait. You write about IK and you will get readers from both sides. Company ki mashoori ke liye.
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dunya k azeem tareen leader k be haff per :cobra:
mein nay shaukat khanam banay uss ko chalya mein ney world cup jitwaya mujhey bus PM bana do mein sub ko theek kardoon ga 
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chalo man liya. javed ch is Imran’s opponent but what about haroon rasheed…no one can call haroon PMLN giy…he is 100% Imran khan supporter but he is also so disappointed of imran;s current politics…Imran has worst caliber of people everywhere in the party…which inqilab is he talking about…baikar kee batien.
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Imran shuru say bura hay aur paisay aur Taqat ka Pujari
Yeh woh " Uth oay " wala aadmi hay
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Yeh woh " Uth oay " wala aadmi hay
you are right, he said the same thing in 1992 to the world cup "oye world cup, tu meri hay, mai tenu chuk lawaN ga"
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Britishers ruled India very successfully. The development they brought to India (including Pakistan) has no parallel. Their code is still valid and applicable with some changes. Not only police act but in other fields like railways, military, judicial system, bureaucracy, civil administration etc the rules are still effective. If these rules are strictly applied in an honest manner, prevailing conditions will be changed in a very positive manner. Why these guys want to change these rules or laws and want to create further chaos? Any such change, the Islamist will take over like Zia-ul-Haq's sharia, the laws will be screwed further. Pakistan is already converted into a dark state by following hotch potch Islamic laws, with civilian laws where no one is safe including women, children and minorities.
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Problem in Pakistan is not just law and how progress could come, but its implementation, opposition from vested interests, and how reform should not come and if comes than how it should not get implemented.
Unfortunately, writer is trying to be dishonest throughout the article. True that things are bad, but it is not that bad as writer is trying to portray.
Dishonesty of the writer or maybe his lack of knowledge can be judged by the fact that he claims, Pakistan did not tried to better police act of 1861 that British gave to rule people of India.
Fact is that, Pakistan was and still is first country of south Asia that drafted new police act in 2001 and got it implemented in 2002, that replaced police act of 1861 given by British, as 1861 police act was enacted by British so that British can use the law and police to rule people of India suppressing them when needed, and 2002 police act was enacted by Musharraf government (supposed to be military dictator) so that people of Police could not exploit people of Pakistan, rather serve them in best way possible, keeping interest of people of Pakistan supreme.
But once politicians came into power in 2002, they started interfering with the act, making unnecessary amendments in police act so that they can keep exploiting people, and even today, after 12 years of the act, it is not fully implemented, or implemented with deficiency that was introduced in later years.
Same is true about changes (Tabdeeli) that people are hoping today, that the change should come and it would come. But the problem is that change in Pakistan could not come through election or ballet papers, but it has to come through some sort of revolution or in other words bullets, from people taking law in their own hands or army interference. As for election, that is and always was farce in Pakistan, as election in Pakistan is not contest of peoples voice, or how many votes a party gets, but it is contest of how good a party is in rigging the election, and those who rigs the election most efficiently, gets into power.
For instance … present as well as previous or any past democratic governments (Be that government was of Bhutto, BeNazir or Nawaz) were morally and constitutionally as much illegal as government of Ayub, Yahya, Zia or Musharraf, because one comes from rigging and other comes at the back of army claiming their takeover as national need. This is also fact that all past military rulers in Pakistan had more legal ground (at least had backing of people and courts), were more democratic, more hardworking, more tolerant, more people friendly, more poor friendly, and done much more for the country than so-called political governments coming through rigged elections, as they did nothing good for the country except looting, plundering, and destroying the country economically, morally, and socially. Whenever Pakistan had so-called political government, corruption, nepotism, and exploitation of poor increased and at the same time progress and honest opportunities decreased. on the other hand, whenever Pakistan had military rule, corruption, nepotism and exploitation decreased, progress and development increased, economy boomed, and poor found hope.
Pakistan needs real change (Tabdeeli) that I believe is coming, and many dishonest journalists who in democracy themselves become privilege class, or any forces in the name of democracy, law, or whatever, would not be able to stop the coming change by twisting facts and spreading disinformation.
As for police reform … contrary to what above journalist claimed, here is the details:
And report on Pakistani police reform of 2002 … from South Asia magazine (not a Pakistani magazine, neither paid servant of any Pakistani leader):
Friedrich Naumann Foundation for Freedom South Asia - Recent events
Police Reform in Pakistan
A law on police reform was not put into place by successive Pakistani governments. Why not put it into practice now with a newly and democratically elected government? a participant asked at the consultation on Police Reform in Pakistan, which was facilitated by I. A. Rehmann, Director of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP), and Sanjay Patil from the Commonwealth Human Rights Initiative (CHRI). Pakistan stands at a crossroads on a number of issues, including policing. An effective counter-insurgency strategy cannot be implemented without an efficient and trusted police force.
Compared to its neighbours, Pakistan is one step ahead. Typically South Asian nations either have an outdated police law in place or no law at all. For instance, Maldives has no police legislation to speak of. In addition, India and Bangladesh continue to retain the antiquated Police Act (1861) that is a legacy of British India. While Sri Lanka started the process of police reform in 2001 by amending its Constitution, Pakistan was the first country in South Asia to initiate legislative reform on the issue of policing when the National Reconstruction Bureau prepared a draft law to reorganise the police in 2001.
From force to public service
The Police Order (2002) ultimately came into force on August 14, 2002. Originally, the spirit behind the reforms initiative was to transform the police from a ‘force’ into a ‘public service’.
However, the Police Order (2002) was significantly curtailed in its intended scope by amendments that were subsequently introduced between 2004 and 2007. While the original 2002 Order was aimed at depoliticising the functioning of police throughout Pakistan - a vital element to ensure democratic policing - the subsequent amendments appear to have defeated the very purpose of reforms. For example, the amendments stipulated that of 6 elected members of the Provincial Public Safety and Police Complaints Commission, 4 would be from the Treasury and 2 from the Opposition. In contrast to the original 3-3 split envisioned by the 2002 Order, this amendment tilts the balance in favour of the ruling regime.
Steps ahead
The consultation in Lahore, which brought together key policy and decision-makers from federal and provincial level, focused on steps ahead. Tariq Khosa, Director General of the National Police Bureau, who led the discussion through the day, summarized that it is necessary to establish internal and external accountability mechanisms, to involve the community, improve methods of police investigation and link promotion to training and capacity building. He endorsed the recommendations of the recent report from the International Crisis Group on reforming Pakistan`s Police.
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Javed Ch exposing khan’s so called bubble one by one…Khan is selling dreams from his container without ever revealing any solid plan…dreams are great to have but one shd not sell them so cheap Khan sahib…you have sold them so cheaply that once you get into power and fail to deliver this nation will murder you…
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Javed Ch exposing khan's so called bubble one by one....Khan is selling dreams from his container without ever revealing any solid plan....
Isn't this a politician's job description?
Javed Ch does exactly what IK has been doing. Producing 'facts' from thin air.
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Javed Ch exposing khan's so called bubble one by one....Khan is selling dreams from his container without ever revealing any solid plan....dreams are great to have but one shd not sell them so cheap Khan sahib...you have sold them so cheaply that once you get into power and fail to deliver this nation will murder you.....
Iss hisab sai toa pehlai Zardari aur NS ko sooli par charhayo....IK has not done anything yet to the nation...
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Iss hisab sai toa pehlai Zardari aur NS ko sooli par charhayo....IK has not done anything yet to the nation...
yahiee to baat hai.....zardari and nawaz didnt even know how to show or sell dreams...they were selling emotional rhetoric... zardari selling bhutto and BB's dead bodies...whereas nawaz was selling anti bhutto masalla.....and this great nation of ours was buying all of that crap with both hands as well!