Typical propaganda with a chipmunk voice this time.
Yeah well if he uses his real voice, he'll prolly be gunned down by some MQM terrorist.
Typical propaganda with a chipmunk voice this time.
Yeah well if he uses his real voice, he'll prolly be gunned down by some MQM terrorist.
I used to be a big supporter Musharraf but the following incidences changed by mind.
Publicly disgracing and forcing Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan to apologize on National TV.
Not letting the Bugti family custody of dead body of Nawab Akber Bugti ( Even Enemy countries return dead bodies of their oppponents but Mush dog didn't)
Killing of innocent Girls in Lal Mosque
So, from Hero he turned Zero and Now, like millions others , I hate him and he is a mad dog that need to be brought to justice. Supreme court of Pakistan should put him to trial and hang him for treason.
Re: Swat attacks are revenge by Lal Masjid students for military operation: Maulana A
^ lol Goldenasif its actually true! http://express.com.pk/images/NP_LHE/20081021/Sub_Images/1100504772-2.gif
^ End of Second para “'jawab milla key mey tu apni biwi ke saath kulfi khaney jaa raha hoon. kuch nahee kar sakta”
What a Shame! Kulfi more important than hundreds of little girls trapped inside the Madrasa.
jab waqt-e- shahadat aya to abdul aziz ko bathroom aya..iss
but i think it can be a nice move...as he can be ask to request to revenge full people to stop doing any more killing on the name of lal masjid..but in pakistan i wonder who the **** manages war and understands its complex ingredients
Who do yo want to call it truce with? The taliban have already rejected any truce until they are given complete control of the region and even then they will expand to other regions. The problem is that you're looking at this as a conflict between two relatively sane groups, but in fact taliban are not sane - to them any truce is a sign of victory and only validates their stance that they can take over paksitan through force. Even if the exact type of shariah where they have complete control to appoint qazis and administer the region is implemented in malakand, the taliban will still not lay down their arms and will push beyond malakand division. This is their STATED GOAL, not something I am making up. A truce with them is the same thing as a surrender.
i think dehumanising taliban is part of the problem rather than the solution but even in your suggested scenario govt would have tried it fair and square if nothing it would bring you a fatwa to carry out military action against them, will get rid of many confusions and will unify the nation.
i think dehumanising taliban is part of the problem rather than the solution but even in your suggested scenario govt would have tried it fair and square if nothing it would bring you a fatwa to carry out military action against them, will get rid of many confusions and will unify the nation.
Dehumanising Taliban? I thought they were dehumanising the local population.
Re: Swat attacks are revenge by Lal Masjid students for military operation: Maulana A
following that train of thought, shouldnt be trouble inviting ulemas into the mix and getting a ruling agianst them.
Re: Swat attacks are revenge by Lal Masjid students for military operation: Maulana A
^ some ulemas have ruled against them.
Re: Swat attacks are revenge by Lal Masjid students for military operation: Maulana A
^ i have read about that. but not the details so i wonder what of the govts awqaf ka mehaqma? they should be consulted, no?
Retaliatory suicide bombing, duh, one goes and bomb someones mother and sister, they'll go ballistic and do anything it takes to hurt them back.
common, bro. Are you trying to condone suicide bombing? how many innocent Pakistanis have been victims of suicide bombing, so by your rational then their families should strap something around themselves and avenge their loved ones' death by blowing up a maderesa or any random bearded pashtun.
There is no justification for suicide bombing, period. I don't care if someone's entire family got wiped out, you don't go and start lighting up an entire block....killing people who had nothing to do with the act. common now.
oh and another thing, you're right that people in general really hated the army's handling of lal masjid operation and pretty much sympathized with the people who perished inside and their loved ones (the possible suicide bombing candidates). just makes me wonder, though, what if even one of those sympathizer got killed by the suicide bomber out to avenge the deaths of his loved ones. such pity.
^ i have read about that. but not the details so i wonder what of the govts awqaf ka mehaqma? they should be consulted, no?
Who are you going to "consult"? The country is filled with illiterate mullah-induced hatred spouting Pakistani religious pundits, and anyone who is sane about his spirituality is getting fashionably gunned down these days or beheaded. WHY do we keep leaving these decisions to some fantom ulema community who supposedly knows the best for us...when
a. Islam has no place for any ulema class or clergy class to have power over anyone.
b. they haven't done a friggin thing to help prevent Pakistan from becoming a mess its in other than making statements like Pakistan shouldn't exist because its just one more hurdle to this imaginary unicorn of a khalifah.
You have a gov't. You get to elect who goes into what office. You elected, of all people in the country- Zardari, the biggest fart to ever have landed on this planet. You have the opporunity to protest, do long marches, to write petitions, to challenge your God's favorite Justice f'ing Iftikhaar I-do-nothing-except-cry-when-I-lose-my-job-and-then-go-back-to-being-useless-once-i-get-it back-nevermind-so-many lost-their-lives-in-riots-over-me Chaudry to do something about lack of justice in the country. You can lead a movement ag/the madrassas and advocate for madrassah reform; you can start neighborhood movements which encourage families to slowly pull their kids out of madrassah school and instead put them in gov't schools or community funded community secularist schools, etc.
But no. Like all muslims around the world these days, no one wants to do anything - we're just waiting for some ulema to pop out with their majic wands and fix everything.
Who are you going to "consult"? The country is filled with illiterate mullah-induced hatred spouting Pakistani religious pundits, and anyone who is sane about his spirituality is getting fashionably gunned down these days or beheaded. WHY do we keep leaving these decisions to some fantom ulema community who supposedly knows the best for us...when
a. Islam has no place for any ulema class or clergy class to have power over anyone.
b. they haven't done a friggin thing to help prevent Pakistan from becoming a mess its in other than making statements like Pakistan shouldn't exist because its just one more hurdle to this imaginary unicorn of a khalifah.
You have a gov't. You get to elect who goes into what office. You elected, of all people in the country- Zardari, the biggest fart to ever have landed on this planet. You have the opporunity to protest, do long marches, to write petitions, to challenge your God's favorite Justice f'ing Iftikhaar I-do-nothing-except-cry-when-I-lose-my-job-and-then-go-back-to-being-useless-once-i-get-it back-nevermind-so-many lost-their-lives-in-riots-over-me Chaudry to do something about lack of justice in the country. You can lead a movement ag/the madrassas and advocate for madrassah reform; you can start neighborhood movements which encourage families to slowly pull their kids out of madrassah school and instead put them in gov't schools or community funded community secularist schools, etc.
But no. Like all muslims around the world these days, no one wants to do anything - we're just waiting for some ulema to pop out with their majic wands and fix everything.
In all that useless and false rhetoric you just posted, can you please inform us as to who struck a deal with Zardari and came up with the presidential pardon (NRO) please?