SWAT a year later...

zinda qaums don’t forget their mohsins. and as a zinda qaum, we must remember those who gave up their today for our tomorrow. my Salam to these brave sons of the soil who gave their lives to protect our country from terrorists.

hopefully the day is not far when all these Taliban terrorists, their overt supporters and closet sympathizers will meet the miserable end they deserve.

we owe it to our boys like Capt. Bilal Zafar shaheed and Capt. Bilal Sunawar shaheed to see that the day comes soon.

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http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/03-Pakistan-army-pays-heavy-price-in-Taliban-war-ss-06

RAWALPINDI: Retired army captain Zafar Tajammal dismisses US demands for Pakistan to do more to fight Muslim militants as he chokes back tears.

His son Captain Bilal Zafar was killed in the prime of his life, cut down by a rocket-propelled grenade while leading a charge against entrenched Taliban fighters.

“I loved him so much that once I told him ‘I will not get you married. Because I love you so much I am afraid I will not be able to share my love with your wife’,” he said, sitting under a huge poster of the commando and the last SMS sent to relatives.

“If there was an American dignitary sitting in front of me I would certainly try to ask him, ‘What else can a human being do more than sacrificing their life? Has any other army in the world suffered so many casualties fighting militants?’”

That’s a question that has often strained relations between the United States and Pakistan, and it’s being asked once again after US authorities said a Pakistani-American was behind the attempted bombing in New York’s Times Square.

Pakistan’s Taliban claimed responsibility and threatened to carry out suicide bombings in major US cities.

Washington wants Islamabad to both crack down harder on Afghan Taliban who cross the border to Afghanistan to support a raging insurgency there, and on homegrown Taliban insurgents.

Many in the United States may wonder why Pakistan, with one of the world’s biggest armies, can’t just wipe out the Taliban.

The suggestion that Pakistan is not trying hard enough infuriates army officers who remember their fallen comrades.

MASTERS OF TERRAIN

The military says the casualty figures speak for themselves.

Pakistan has lost 2,421 soldiers fighting militants since 2004, the military says. In Afghanistan, 1,777 US-led coalition troops have died since 2001, says website icasualties.org.

There are currently 147,400 Pakistani troops stationed in the west and northwest along the Afghan border fighting militants, while total coalition troops in Afghanistan will number about 140,000 when a US troops surge is complete.

**The army, which has ruled Pakistan for more than half of its history, says a series of offensives have badly hurt the Taliban.

But the Taliban still carries out suicide bombings and brazen attacks, including one on army headquarters in Rawalpindi.**

Part of the problem - in Washington’s view - is Pakistan’s concentration on India, its long-time rival and fellow nuclear-armed power. Pakistan has poured most of its energy into waging and preparing for conventional warfare against India, not tackling Taliban guerrillas waging jihad.

CONSTANT PAIN

The pain Major Ishtiaq Ahmed still feels everyday - years after his vehicle was hammered by a roadside bomb - reminds him of how effective the Taliban is. His bones were shattered into small pieces in his legs. A finger was blown off one hand and two other fingers are dysfunctional.

Major Ahmed, who bristled at the suggestion Pakistani soldiers were not pressuring militants enough, says he is ready for the battlefield again. Realistically, the decorated officer will more likely inspire young soldiers to take on the Taliban rather than fight them himself. There may be generations of Pakistani soldiers needed.

“They are damn good fighters,” said Ahmed. “The Taliban. All he needs is a bottle of water strapped to his side, 50 bullets and a rifle. And he will just wait and wait on a hillside for a week for you to pass by, and attack.”

It’s a rare admission by a senior officer that Pakistan’s all-powerful military is vulnerable.

Major Syed Imtiaz Shah is proud of the picture on his wall of former Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf awarding him a medal for bravery. But he considers himself lucky.

He still carries shrapnel in his neck from a clash with Indian troops in 1999. He also survived a battle with the Taliban. Militants fired a grenade at him several years ago, tearing off a large part of his forearm and leaving him with a mangled hand.

Battling Muslim militants is far more complex. For one, the Taliban often blend in with fellow ethnic Pashtun tribesmen and suddenly attack out of nowhere.

“If you find a person wearing a turban, with a Kalashnikov it does not mean he is a terrorist,” said Shah. “You have to differentiate between friend and foe. You have to get local support.”

That requires millions of dollars of investment in services, schools and job creation to win over locals. It’s money that doesn’t come easy given Pakistan’s sluggish economy.

For now, Pakistan may have to rely on sheer determination to defeat the Taliban, and memories of those who died trying.

**Captain Bilal Sunawar wanted to be buried at the foot of his mother’s grave. He got his wish after being killed by a rocket-propelled grenade in a battle with the Taliban.

“Do not stand at my grave and cry. I’m not there. I did not die. I’M SHAHEED (a martyr),” reads his gravestone.

Captain Bilal’s father, Chaudhry Sunawar, also a military man, said he had no regrets over his son joining the army.

“As a very small child, he used to put my military cap on his head and roam around the bungalow with a lot of pride. From the very beginning he had a liking for the military.”** – Reuters

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Taliban, Al-Qaeda & closet supporters will pay for the every single drop of blood, they will run until the end of the lands and we will follow .. we will bury them right their under that very toilet they are hiding.

Just death to Taliban, they burn in world and will burn in hell forever..

Salute to Pak Army, the real Mujahideen :jhanda:

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This can't b true, article is probably work of ISI.
Our Army only kills innocent people, they run and hide whenever they see talibans. They bomb innocent villagers and show thir bodies in the media claiming they are talibans.

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At present army seems to be the only institution that has semblance of a strategy to deal with this issue. Unfortunately rest of the country appears neither to have a clue nor interest in planning on how deal with Taliban and unfolding Afghan situation.

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inna lillahi wa inna ilahi raji'un

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2,421 far out!!!

but thats arite our Army got the 10billion during mush era and we are still getting 1.5 billion per year. so its all good we should keep fighting till we have our last poor army jawan alive. even we had nothing to do with 911 or osama but still it was our war since 911 because America said so and still it is our war more than ever because America and the collation say so. Infact Pakistan should do more as it has failed miserably preventing a failed car bombing attempt IN AMERICA by an AMERICAN CITIZEN and dont forget that we failed to stop Ajmal kasab go to indian and create havok. Indians have heaps of credible evidence that interpol outrightly rejected. So what Americans didnt even have any evidence that could be presented to show Al-qaida or osama’s involvement and still they have managed to bomb 2 countries. So what if the new adviser to the British PM says we are fighting the political islamic ideology which may result in islamic countries coming together.
We are fighting to save the world from terrorists i dont think the price we are paying is very high. So what we killed bugty and he had nothing to do with al-qaida or osama. So what if a drone kills many ppl in some wedding ceremony. They are all jahils who have beards and live on hills. They are not my family. So what if someone blows himself up in bazzar or university few ppl get killed everyday. who cares ? 2,421 pakistani soldiers died so what we have plenty left :chai:

we agree somewhere at least, as much we hate Army for her mingling in the politics. But one have to agree that it's again Army in the end which is the only stable institution in the country even in all the insurgency going with-in Pak and around us.

how about it’s a other way around? maybe Taliban which is actually true.. slit throats and bomb school/colleges, kill innocent children/women ..

SWAT a year later…

Good work, Pak Army :jhanda:

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^ You didn't get it, did you ?

yaar you should really install the plugin i installed this morning. auto detects a troll and puts he/she on ignore list. :hehe:

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I have heard that the Jirga is Swat have thrown the families of the terrorists out of the city... it may be inhuman but it should have done, the local knows the terrorists and their families...

This will discourage the other young ones of the area to not to indulge in these kind of activities...

Pakistan Painda'baad

that plugin will prevent you from being able to use your own computer.

so, be careful what you wish for.

so much bakbak… yet not a single word of condemnation for the terrorists that our army and our country is fighting.

and btw, for someone who seems to be pretty horny for Islamic ideology, etc, you post a lot of bayhooda Indian songs in the Video Gallery… what’s up with that?

plugin jumped for a second seeing your posts :hehe: any time now

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http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=8a-vmfL71FM

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for you specially:

You didn’t ge it, did you?

That was for Hamid Mir kind of people who talk a lot of $hit.
Some poeple love to criticise Pakistani soldiers and think they are all corrupt, under American influence, against Pakistani people, etc etc. Some even criticise them ONLY and ONLY because most of them belong to a certain province.
The fact is that some Army officers are undoudtedly corrupt (just like any other Pakistani) but they are probably one of the only few ones doing what they are supposed to do. They are fighting enemy, sacrificing their lives, helping people in disaster areas, protecting average citizens all around Pakistan, doing what police is supposed to do and still are on hit list of not only talibans but also average Pakistanis because we still deny that talibans exist/or they are bad people.
They aren’t perfect but i hate the idiots blaming them for every damn thing in our country.

Pak Army does what every other Army in the world does, yet they think that gives them the right to loot the country.

As for the 'idiots blaming them for the state of the country', Pak Army has directly controlled Pak longer than anyone else. When they are not in power, they have large indirect control.

There are many reasons Pak is in a bad state, but the biggest reason in this corrupt and murderous Army/agencies