surrender to militants

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What are people’s views about the unanimous surrender to the demands of militants in Swat?

Is this really what you hoped your representatives in the assemblies would do?

I for one am disappointed in this complete lack of backbone and cojones of the govt.

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Firstly it's not "surrender".

You need to know the history of the affair, it pre-dates 9/11, it predates taliban, it goes back to 1979 when the Swat area of PATA was deprived of its Qazi system. So TNSM came into place and continued a struggle for reinstatement of Shariah, as it was before 1979.

TTP is an entirely different animal, and they are not the representatives of people of Swat. If anything Swat people have been a victim of TTP's illogical ideology that has often borderlined torture, and acts of the time of jahaliyah.

TNSM favors women's education (as long as they cover up, which is fair considering PATA/FATA have certain customs, and the people are free to practice those customs as long as they don't violate Islam).

So i don't really understand what the issue is? Is it that TTP hijacked the people's demands and made it, its own slogan, and now that the people's demands are being met, the general public or those opposed to this bill are thinking that this means agreement to demands of TTP?

You do realize that is not true to the core right? yes TTP had hijacked the peoples' demands and was standing tall on that. If anything, now TTP can be crushed along with its financiers because it no longer has anything to stand on.

The passage of this bill does not mean victory of TTP, it means their defeat in the long run because now the Army can really focus on the real culprits without the general population of Pakistan thinking the operations are against ordinary citizens of Swat. I don't know about the rest, but i have full faith in Pakistan Armed Forces and their professionalism.

FYI: Balochistan too has a Qazi system in place, though it may not be widely practiced. Are you against that too? Because it exists even as we speak right now...
There's also a Federal Shariat Court, which oversee all matters concerning Shariah and it has been in place all along. Are you against that too?

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Simply disgusting...I totally share your views..

People who do not want their daughters to be flogged for generations on some false accusations may be considering to join some terrorist group as the only option left to them...to get themselves heard..

MQM is an option!

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And just to remind people the meaning of the word surrender, which the state of pakistan is becoming something of an expert in.

Main Entry:
1sur·ren·der Listen to the pronunciation of 1surrender
Pronunciation:
\sə-ˈren-dər\
Function:
verb
Inflected Form(s):
sur·ren·dered; sur·ren·der·ing Listen to the pronunciation of surrendering -d(ə-)riŋ\
Etymology:
Middle English surrendren, from surrendre, noun
Date:
15th century

transitive verb1 a: to yield to the power, control, or possession of another upon compulsion or demand b: to give up completely or agree to forgo especially in favor of another2 a: to give (oneself) up into the power of another especially as a prisoner b: to give (oneself) over to something (as an influence)intransitive verb: to give oneself up into the power of another : yield

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Just so you all know that every thing has consequences. Many young men in the army died in swat and now we know they died for nothing. Next time their is a fight, soldiers will think twice before fighting.

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whether we like it or not for the time being it is a surrender not by army but by a impotent, disorganized government.

as for Army i blame them partially but still they can fight but cant do police work, still we would get to know them in few months time when time would come , remember it is just whether one have WILL to fight or not.

now frustration is taking over reasoning as far as i m concerned although i was in favour of nizam e adl for the reason army and administration would be able to buy time to get themselves organized but reality seems otherwise talibans have organzied themselves , and administration is further eroded and not sure about Army most probably they are doing something out of view.

as for MQM although i dont like them and dont agree with their politics and their ways but we are fellow citizens, countrymen and surely would join them.

wont let these thugs with AK47 ruin our lives and i can be 10 times more terrible than them if it came to that.

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The fact is that the backers of this strong armed the govt by starting a war against the state.

I really dont believe these were people's demands. If people were demanding these they did not need armed mad mullah mobs to take over the area.

You may have full faith in Pak armed forces and their professionalism, but the point was the unanimous support for this in assembly, unless you are saying that they voted that way because the army told them to vote that way. In which case I wonder what happened to the democracy we were looking for.

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i agree on this one, wondering how his family be feeling.

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I fully agree with u. The govt of NWFP was in a hurry to have an accord with the militants because they had threatened to kill the govt ministers now. Just to save their govt and lives, they did this very fast. It is really a disaster. And now i fear that this technique by militants will not stop. They have already now entered in Buner which is an area outside swat. Its a bad example set by the govt.