Support for Iraq War at All-time Low

The VOICES of reason :k:

Support for Iraq War at All-time Low](Ananova News) Ananova

Public support for military action against Iraq is at its lowest level since the Prime Minister first raised the prospect of war in August. A Guardian/ICM weekly tracker poll shows just 32% of people approve of strikes on Baghdad, six points lower than a week ago.

Opposition to the war has increased slightly over the past week - up one point to 41%, the survey in the Guardian shows. The poll appears to show Tony Blair will have a battle on his hands convincing voters to get behind a deployment of British troops to Iraq.

In the poll, those who replied that they “don’t know” whether military action is justified was up from 21% to 27%. Earlier, Mr Blair said he was “reasonably confident” of getting agreement on a new UN resolution on Iraq.

He said the intense international negotiations are “reaching the point of closure” but there is no timescale for a decision. ICM interviewed a random sample of 1,003 adults by telephone between November 1 and 3, 2002.

Great news. It shows that people are not buying the lies that Bush and Blair are putting out, and are aware of the selfish and greedy motives behind this war mongering.

The Bush Administration is almost totally isolated in its quest to attack Iraq. The French, the Russians, the Chinese, EU nations and over 120 other member nations of the UN strongly oppose another war on Iraq; and now the British public have REJECTED the Bush war plans. Even Bush's home-based support is slowly but surely eroding, with many thousands of Americans demonstrating their opposition to his policies.

Thank God, people are using their common sense and well aware of true facts.

mallik us got crucial support from china. pakistan ,india russia and france
will finally accept us policy.

Iraq is an issue we can stand with the world on," says Dr. Zhu. “We don’t feel the protection of Saddam Hussein is so decisive to China’s future.”

Russia endorses new US resolution on Iraq

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_7-11-2002_pg7_1

I know this is a cafe-ish stunt but nevertheless :kiss: for the Brit public !

And just to update you guys. There was a notable protest organised by Manchester Students Unions and prima facie - feelings are running deep.

Latest ICM Guardian POLL. 13-15 December 2002](http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2002/guardian-dec-02.htm)

Opposition to the Bush Administrations war plans have increased to 44% of the British Public. :k:

Only 36% of the British public now support war against Iraq, a huge fall from the 42% back in Oct 2002. Excellent news.

Yes the war on Iraq is WRONG as it is clear double standards on the part of the US and on humanitarian grounds, but the Iraqi ppl themselves want Saddam out-the US should just start a civil war. :)

:rolleyes: Yes lets support a civil war inside Iraq and disregard International laws and conventions. For your info, the Bush Administrations support for an uprising in northern Iraq, would be considered an ‘Act of Aggression’ against a sovereign state.

even AL GORE is against it!

Add to that 72% of Americans who are not convinced that there is a need for war. :k: (Source: Los Angeles Times)

Huge Anti-War March Planned](http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-12222664,00.html) Sky News Uk 11 Jan 03

Opponents of war against Iraq were meeting today to discuss plans for a massive protest in London. The Stop the War Coalition aims to stage the demonstration on February 15. It will be part of a global initiative against military action in the Middle East, which it says is “wrong and unjustified”

A number of Labour MPs and prominent anti-war activists including former minister Tony Benn and George Galloway were expected to attend the meeting. Andrew Bergen, of the Stop the War Coalition, said: "Our organisation was set up in opposition to the war in Afghanistan but the same applies to Iraq.

"Our opposition to military action is because it’s wrong and unjustified and the countries who are pushing for it have no right to wage war in that area.“They call themselves the world’s policemen and talk about weapons of mass destruction but they are the people with weapons of mass destruction and they are really after oil and dominating the area.”

Mr Bergen said he expected 200,000 people to take part in the proposed march, from the Embankment to Hyde Park. “If so, it could be one of the biggest marches in British political history,” he added.

i have little sympathy for iraqis or that creep called "saddam hussain"
this man who ones sat on american lap. fought against iran to topple the islamic revolution on usa's behest!, gased muslim kurds,! invaded a muslim kuwait,!
infact saddam hussains party the baath party which means rebirth is infact affliated to communism and had very little sympathy for muslim movements world wide.
iam against this war yes but because of americas imperialistic policy it has already made afghanistan its colony,and now wants to take over th e iraqi oil wells iam just against the american hegemony other wise i care a damn for this fart called saddam hussain

Kabir, its about saving thousands of Iraqi lives from further death and destruction. Its about safeguarding Iraq from the blatant sanction policies supported by Bush & co, which have destroyed much of the Iraqi infrastructure and have led to the deaths of over 1.7 million children..

Btw, its good to see that you are against the war.. I think its also great to see India has been outspoken in recent weeks being highly critical of the Bush Administrations policies in the region. See other thread](http://www.gupistan.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=75691&highlight=Indian)

Australians urged to oppose Iraq war](http://www.thewest.com.au/20030110/news/latest/tw-news-latest-home-sto84152.html) The West Australian 10 Jan 03

GREENS Senator Bob Brown today called on Australians to tell the Prime Minister they oppose the idea of war with Iraq.“We need everybody to speak up now to John Howard, to disentangle his mind from this inevitable course of going to war with George W Bush,” Senator Brown told reporters in Sydney today.

“The damage within Australia and in the long term to Australia, by such things as increased vulnerability to terrorism, have to be taken into account.” Senator Brown’s comments came as the federal government held a special cabinet meeting to discuss the Iraq situation.

“It is a huge mistake by John Howard, it will divide this country like nothing since the Vietnam war,” he said.“The fortune of the country this year depends on one of the early decisions by the prime minister.” Senator Brown said Mr Howard already had decided on war and was only waiting for President Bush to give the go ahead.

“John Howard is determined to drag Australia into a Bush-led attack on Baghdad with all the consequent casualties, death, destruction and repercussions for this nation for many years to come,” he said. Australia should be putting the hand of restraint on President Bush’s shoulder, he added.“The Greens totally oppose Australian involvement in an attack on Iraq whether or not the United Nations is going to be backing that,” he said.

“Of the 33 constituencies surveyed, which are represented by ministers from a wide range of departments, opposition to unsanctioned war and the reluctance to support even UN-backed action was clear.”

Labour faithful voice opposition to Iraq war](http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=368549) The Independent Uk 12 Jan 03

An Independent on Sunday survey of Labour Party chairs of ministers’ constituencies shows overwhelming grassroots hostility to military action against Iraq. Nearly all Labour Party constituency chairs and agents asked – almost half the total of those held by government ministers – said their members were completely opposed to US-led unilateral military action against Saddam Hussein. Just two said there was support for it, and three were undecided. Twenty-eight came out against.

The survey, conducted following the Prime Minister’s refusal to rule out any war that did not have the backing of the United Nations when pressed in the Commons last week, showed a greater support – 29 local parties – for UN-backed action. But of those, many were extremely uncomfortable with the prospect. Three were opposed to war in any circumstances.

As yet, few members are leaving the party in protest. Just two constituency chairs reported people tearing up their membership cards, though seven said members had threatened to do so. As the military build-up continues – despite reports that UN weapons inspectors have yet to find conclusive evidence of a weapons of mass destruction programme in Iraq – disquiet among the public, especially potentially embarrassing shows of defiance from Labour Party members, is expected to grow.

Hostility in the Labour Party to war is thought to run from top to bottom, and the misgivings of some Cabinet ministers are echoed by the people they represent. In Foreign Secretary Jack Straw’s Blackburn constituency, the mood is unsettled. Phil Riley, the constituency secretary, said: “There is a small minority of people, of course, who would have the view that they are anti-war full stop.” But he said the broad view in Blackburn was that “it has to be with UN approval and also the approval of the House of Commons”. Mr Riley said he had “no sense that Jack finds that an unacceptable position”.

In Education Secretary Charles Clarke’s Norwich South constituency, his agent, Peter Evans, said: “We don’t wish the Government to do anything without the United Nations.” Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott’s Hull East constituency reported “divided and reserved” opinion on unilateral action. In Foreign Office minister Denis Macshane’s Rotherham seat there was a “prevailing view against unilateral action”.

Did anyone see this to-the-point article? Did it get any coverage in the mainstream media? Is S.F. Gate mainstream in USA?
The points raised in this article are very valid - is anyone in the Bush gang listening? There is still time to backoff this mad rush to annihilate yet more innocent civilians.

Published on Friday, January 10, 2003 by the San Francisco Gate
Happy Imbeciles At War
Massive U.S. military buildup, billions of dollars, a useless enemy, and no one seems to know why
by Mark Morford

"This is not a war. Iraq will not be a war. Do we understand this? We do not seem to understand this. This is heavily corporatized power brokers killing each other for oil and capital. Oh yes it is.

You cannot have a war when there is nothing to fight against, when it’s essentially going to be a huge U.S. military stomping/bombing exercise, when, just like Afghanistan, we stand to suffer zero U.S. casualties (except for those we seem to kill ourselves), and we just bomb and bomb and kill and kill and shrug.

This is a Mack truck versus a Pinto. This is an F-16 versus a paper airplane, a Tomahawk missile versus a spit wad. There is no contest. “War” is exactly the wrong term. The U.S. attack on Iraq will be, of course, a massacre. Go team.

Remember Afghanistan? Yes, we’re still there, warring away. Bombing and attacking and killing. Haven’t caught a single al Qaeda leader of note yet. That looks bad for Dubya. Killed a few thousand civilians though. Shrug.

Perhaps you wonder just where in the hell is the spineless major media in all this, …

Perhaps you wonder where is the national TV coverage of all those huge anti-war protests, hundreds of thousands of people, all over the world, from Spain to Berlin to New York to San Francisco.

Perhaps you wonder where are all the “serious” journalists, the risk-taking news agencies pointing up the absurdity of it all, the imminent horror, the outrage. Could it be these news agencies are owned by major conservative corporations? Could it be they’re all terrified of losing ratings, of saying something unpopular, of invoking Cheney’s wrath, of losing advertiser dollars and that ever-precious, ever-dwindling dumbed-down audience? One guess.

And besides, who needs a reason for a massacre anymore? This is the age of the preemptive-strike, screw-you Bush regime. Who needs, for example, the Monroe Doctrine, that crusty old rag stating how America will go to war only as a last resort, as a defensive measure, and won’t become embroiled in unwinnable foreign wars that are none of our business?

Who needs every precedent ever set by international law? Who needs the U.N. Charter? Who needs confused congressional approval? Who needs ethical integrity?

Let us wantonly kill innocent civilians and children and thousands of Iraqi soldiers who, let us repeat, did nothing to provoke us. Shall we? Yes let’s. Why? Shhh.

Let us be clear. Saddam is not a threat to the U.S., and never has been. He is merely yet another cowardly and murderous thug, much like the countless other despots and autocrats, from Marcos to King Fahd to Ariel Sharon, the U.S. has added to its payroll when it served our needs, and whom we then backhand when we need economic stimulus, or when the president needs a boost to his approval ratings, or when the corporate pals of the Bush WASP mafia need more billion-dollar petrochemical and defense contracts. Aha. Perhaps this is why.

We are, in short, going to attack and massacre Iraq for the oil reserves, to protect America’s corporate interests, to feed the gaping maw of the military-industrial complex. Same as it ever was.

But let us be perfectly clear: We are most definitely not cranking up the appalling war machine for your sake, or for the country’s protection, or for our commendable standing among our humanitarian allies.

We are not doing it to defeat terrorism (it will have the exact opposite effect), or to make the streets safer for our children, or because they’ve found big scary WMDs (they haven’t – not a one) – or even for Iraq’s own good. And to believe we are is, quite simply, to be wholly misinformed and openly, flagrantly, deliberately deceived.
…"

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0110-04.htm

Thanks for posting Awam. SFGate is the official website of the San Francisco Chronicle which is one of Californias largest Newspaper, so you are right to question why the Bush Administration is not listening to what some of the media is saying.. sadly I think there are also mainstream tabloids and media channels which have a very pro-war stance towards Iraq, hopefully the American public will disregard their false propoganda and instead read independant tabloids which are not afraid to reveal the truths about issues regarding the Bush Administrations foreign policies.

Most Britons say no to war - poll](http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/24by7panews/page.cfm?objectid=12570471&method=full&siteid=50143) Mirror UK 26 Jan 03

Mirror: Tony Blair has failed to convince the majority of Britons of the need for war with Iraq, according to a new poll. The YouGov poll, for The Sunday Times, found that of nearly 2,000 people questioned only 26% said Mr Blair had convinced them that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein is sufficiently dangerous to justify military action. The majority, 68%, said Mr Blair had failed to do so.