I was driving in countryside today and for some reason I started thinking about sun,moon,planets their a/synchronous movement,earth being far from sun in winter etc…I stumbled back into religion and God. Since I am exposed to the western religions and familiar with the concept of Allah, Holy Father, Adonai being the creator of mankind and planets and everything that we see dont see, know and dont know etc; it occured to me that even though Allah has said in Quran this is the final communication with mankind and next time it will be on doomsday. But what if God, Allah, Adonai being the omnipotent and powerful changed his mind(if that applies, since we are dealing a super natural being) and addressed all Humans directly using some supernatural medium forget CNN,FoX I am talking direct communication with all inhabitants of planet earth and if life exists on other planets. We are talking about God so it is possible. Now if this super natural being comes and says to drop all holy books and gives us a new book new rules. He doesn’t reconfigure us so our cognitive and thought process,reasoning etc is left intact, just humans witnessing something super natural.
Question:
Would Christians, Muslims, Jews treat that as satan or God?
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They will treat as Verizon that is eating up all the communication companies such as MCI.:)
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Good Question.
Pretty scarey.
Many I suppose would equate this senario with Satan.
Appocolypse.
End times.
Book of Revelation.
(which I don't really understand)
If you are asking me directly what I would do? or believe?
Firstly my honest answer would be... I don't know exactly.
Would depend on the message expressed.
If message illustrated goodness, sweetness, values, morals, care and loving kindness..I would probobly listen.
If message was satanic in nature I don't believe that any of ^ characteristics would be illustrated.
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Any supernatural power is not needed. An omnipotent sect leader can easily do it.
Verizon have ever been a member of any satanic sect?
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the muslims will say it is an american conspiracy to take over the world. The modern Mullahs will say its the Freemasons wanting to create a new world order and start to hand out free cd's telling us that Jeehad is teh only way out.
On a more serious note
What will be interesting is whether the Christians, Jews and Muslims unite in the face of this "Evil" The last thing anybody in a position of power (religious Authority)wants is to relinquish that power.
If you take a look at history you'll find those people in power at a time when there was a change in public opinion or belief survived if they changed to the "winning" side ....ie The emperor Constantine accepting Christianity.
I remember reading a line in the Quran (many years ago , so please dont quote me )stating something along the lines of Allah being the master of all the WORLDS.
I feel that from a religious point of view it is conceivable that Our Almighty has created all kinds of other worlds...
From a non religious point of view, I feel that if Earth managed to get created and ended up in 2005 with little people spending their time talking to unknowns using a strange thing called cyberspace via bits of plastic and metal I feel that it is possible that another planets inhabitants may have used their time more constructively.
As for the Book they hand over , If the rules
state things like the ten commandments are defunct and we should do the opposite ..it is likely to be taken up by the inhabitants of the West (depending on howmuch free press and advertising they get)people like the born again Christians, mormons and those from the Muslim world etc would class them as Satanic Demons and whip out the relevant lines from various holy books to back up their claims.
Im sorry if Ive waffled , but half way through I kinda forgot the question.
Anyway I suppose the most important thing is that they tell us is that Elvis lives and who really killed diana.
Oh and also , how they get to impliment those rules...if they stood on a street corner and handed the books out I guess they'd get thrown into the next trash can with a little murmer of "wierdo"
If they heldt heir version of AK47 under your nose and said "here ya go, do wot it sez"
you'd be more inclined.
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If you are a muslim and believe in Tauheed then you wouldn’t conisder this super natural as god for sure. You will meet your god after you die.
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Verizon, God has already changed his mind…his last roadmap for arabs had a few logical obstacles. He has reverted back to the kafir way of thinking. It’s Asia’s turn. :k:
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AAG: So if the msg is nice and sounds good it is God, otherwise the msg is evil so it is Satan? Isn't that somethin like ying yang or Dr Jeckyll and Mr Hyde?
Fayz: I dont know about your statement, what if this supernatural being came an told all humanity that Quran indeed is the right book? And Muslim way is the right way?
Anjan: No Never have been a member of any cult (incomapses religions as well, since religions are a socially acceptable organized cults).
L_D: I hear you about the conspiracy theory we just witnessed that with the tsunami.
Matsui: What if all Hindu Gods came to life with coming of this super natural being and started talking in all Mandirs and said listen to the super natural?
Now lets say this super natural powers say OK Quran is the right book but lets take pork eating prohibition out and now it is allowed and Muslims/all humanity must say their prayers 2 times a day, all the wife beating stuff and jihad stuff is no longer required.
There is no holy trinity, And god changed his mind so no messiah coming to the planet?
What ya'll gonna do? Call Ghost Busters or believe. I am talking a Super Natural Phenomenon.
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Too bad! He had his chance. He has sent his last book and muslim adhere to its rulings. He can’t be playing games..He has played a big one already.
Change of minds is a humanistic chatacteristic…If god had change of minds…everything around you wouldn’t be so perfect. We need to understand what is God first and what makes a muslim (belief in Quran).
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Wo!! We are talking Allah (swt) here not some Sportsman or a Gambler.
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We already believe that man has set foot on the moon.Everything after that is quite simple.
You are underestimating God’s communication skills ![]()
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Exactly my point. Treat Allah the way He should be treated. “Change of mind” sounds like more of a gambler’s trait to me.
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well from past experience i reckon He'd come in for some serious opposition. Cos obviously Jews/Xtians/Muslims/whatever would think they know better than Him. For example, Moses told the good news of the coming of Jesus, Jews rejected him and his message, Jesus foretold of the coming of Muhammed, the Xtians and the Jews both rejected him and so on...
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So Fayz, if God came to you and said I am God you'd doubt it?
Code_red Those were examples maybe substandard but posted for a reason.
HHP: You think that humans will tell this being to buzz off and that they dont believe he is Allah.
What are the signs of God, Allah, Adonai then 'cause If one were to come across such a being how would one know that it is God then?
What if this super natural being raised all the prophets and showed them to humanity as proof, I mean we were not there when the prophets came so we wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway.
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Interesting enough God has done it for the past 2000 years, according to Christians.
After Jesus Christ was taken up, God send the Holy Spirit to dwell with us and teach/talk to each and everyone that opens his/her heart to God's direct voice. This is exactly as He did with Moses, Abraham, and the other prophets.
We know how wo/mankind greeted this. Some refused to listen. Some redicule it. Some even went on and decided they need new and different teachings. Some ignore it. Very few do listen and even fewer hear the voice very well.
If a voice therefor do come out of the sky teaching something, all Christians should/must check the teaching with what the Holy Spirit teach them. Any teaching that clash with the Holy Spirit's teaching, should be discarded as God can not be in conflict with Himself.
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^^So If God abolishes or relaxes certain restrictions imposed earlier that would be considered as conflict?
You bring up a good point about the earlier medium as in prophets as in people.. I was not aware that "Holy Spirit dwelling" thing but that wouldn't be God anyway.
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That’s the beauty of being a muslim. I can reject anyone or anything that claims to be a god in my lifetime. It’s a nice hypothetical situation but doesn’t coincide with muslim beliefs. How hard is that to understand ![]()
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Verizon, that is the point. Always some humans have manipulated the fears of humans and established some or other kind of faiths. In some cases these faiths have successfully crossed the regional boundries and in most cases the sect died with death of the inventor, call him prophet or guru, that is your choice.
Today if any so called prophet tries to establish a new faith, he will have to be supper cunning.
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No problem with changing rules and laws w.r.t. sacrificial, social, medical, or general behaviour. It has been done in the past. Conflict will be where pure sin as per God’s previous indication are changed into being in order. For example, lying, murder, stealing, etc. becomes OK.
Please explain why the Holy Spirit’s indwelling can’t be from God according to your reasoning.
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I didn’t say from God. I said wouldn’t be God. TOM I got no problems with HS.