Super-7 fighter's maiden flight next year: Mushaf

AJ_Kiani · September 19, 2002, 8:31pm

**Super-7 fighter’s maiden flight next year: Mushaf **](Daily Jang: Urdu News - Latest Breaking News update Pakistan - jang.com.pk)

KARACHI: The Super-7 fighter aircraft - result of the biggest-ever joint venture between Pakistan and China - will go through its first flight by June 2003 in China, said Air Chief Marshal Mushaf Ali Mir on Thursday.

“We have met all requirements for this biggest-ever joint venture between us and our friend China and hopefully it would go through prototype flight by June 2003,” the air chief said while talking to journalists at the fourth day of International Defence Exhibition and Seminar (IDEAS) 2002 at Expo Centre.

He said that Pakistan had 50 per cent share in developing Super-7 with China as it bore US $75 million out of total cost of US $150 million. He said that since the PAF was denied F-16 fighter jets by the United States in 1988-89, Pakistan itself upgraded the aircraft and acquired high technology including radar and early warning system.

He elaborated that after receiving negative response from the Western world for technology, Pakistan in collaboration with China was developing Super-7 multi-role, multi-mission combat aircraft at Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, Kamra.

Mushaf looked optimistic as he said that they would replace the F-6s, A-5s and F-7s aircraft in the PAF fighter fleet. He informed that the PAF was also developing avionics system for Super-7 as under an agreement with China, up to 50 per cent of Super-7 aircraft will be produced in Pakistan.

He said that though the air force strength and capability were measured through numbers, upgrading and maintenance played great role in keeping the forces abreast of the latest technologies and war games.

The air chief was of the view that the 9/11 incidents opened various avenues for Pakistan in several fields including defence. “The US is now issuing export licences and the meeting of Pak-US Defence Consultative Group will help in enhancing cooperation in defence between the two countries,” he elaborated.

He said that today airforce was turning into an aerospace force and same was the goal of PAF. In this regard, PAF was approaching European countries like France, Italy and Sweden. “But unfortunately there has always been some constraints regarding any development. Sometimes it is elections in France, sometimes we face tension at our borders or sometimes elections in Kashmir,” he regretted.

When asked to compare the Pakistani and Indian air forces, he said that both the countries had increased their defence capability and excellence. “I would not say that Indian Air force has not been progressing as we have. Both the countries have increased their defence strengths and excellence,” Mushaf said.

However, the air chief reiterated that Pakistan possessed the best strength for deterrence to keep the enemy away from any adventurism.

Regarding the accident ratio in PAF, he said that it was much less than India as the record of last two years showed that there were hardly two accidents in 10,000 flying hours. “That is the record of last two years, currently it has gone down further,” he clarified.

He informed that PAF had well trained and ready for combat pilots who possessed the ability to reply to the enemy in any field of professionalism and excellence. He maintained that PAF also enjoyed professional ground crew services comprising competent engineers and technicians.

The air chief also lauded the services of defence production and concerned institutions including Air Weapon Complex, Pakistan Aeronautical Engineering Complex and Precision Engineering Complex. “These institutions have really been backing up strength of PAF for which I must say that the distinction which PAF enjoys today is very much supported by these institutions,” Mushaf added.

This is great!

Adnan_Ahmed · September 20, 2002, 2:14am

This is great news, but could somone please elaborate on the specifics of this Super-7, and how it relates to Pakistans current fleet of f-16's?

aries · September 20, 2002, 5:57pm

Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NyFella · September 20, 2002, 6:20pm

Pakistan Zindabad

AJ_Kiani · September 20, 2002, 6:34pm

Go to Pakdef.info, Sinodefence.com or PakistaniDefence.com for info on it...
It's 80% as good as F-16...
But it's better than the F-16's that Pakistan has right now.

Adnan_Ahmed · September 21, 2002, 3:55am

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*Originally posted by AJ Kiani: *
Go to Pakdef.info, Sinodefence.com or PakistaniDefence.com for info on it...
It's 80% as good as F-16...
But it's better than the F-16's that Pakistan has right now.
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Thanks...

Adnan_Ahmed · September 21, 2002, 3:57am

Pakistan needs about 150 of these planes for its Air Force... How will this acquisition in Fighters compare to the India Air force capability? One analyst said it may ti the scale in our direction, but by how much?

2bornot2b · September 21, 2002, 8:54am

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*Originally posted by Adnan Ahmed: *
Pakistan needs about 150 of these planes for its Air Force... How will this acquisition in Fighters compare to the India Air force capability? One analyst said it may ti the scale in our direction, but by how much?
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India boasts that it has over 700 aircrafts. However, IAF has about 300 aircrafts that are operational at any given time. The rest are either under repair or not air worthy.

Out of the 300 operational IAF aircrafts, one can quite safely assume that one third of these will be crashed by the IAF pilots :)

No wonder the Muslim Burning Hindus are reluctant to start the 'Decisive Battle'. :)

Adnan_Ahmed · September 22, 2002, 2:04am

[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by 2bornot2b: *

India boasts that it has over 700 aircrafts. However, IAF has about 300 aircrafts that are operational at any given time. The rest are either under repair or not air worthy.

Out of the 300 operational IAF aircrafts, one can quite safely assume that one third of these will be crashed by the IAF pilots :)

No wonder the Muslim Burning Hindus are reluctant to start the 'Decisive Battle'. :)
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Lol:)
So How many planes does Pakistan have?

2bornot2b · September 22, 2002, 7:07am

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*Originally posted by Adnan Ahmed: *
...So How many planes does Pakistan have?...
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Mashallah over 500, and they are all in working order :)

No wonder the Muslim Burning Hindus have been reluctant to start that 'Decisive Battle' promised by Vajpayee. They cannot handle the professionalism of Pakistan's armed forces. The Indians are spending $14billion on defence and still do not have the guts to start the war against a small nation like Pakistan. The Indians are only good at burning unarmed Muslims, and sending them to refugee camps.

Adnan_Ahmed · September 22, 2002, 1:35pm

So that makes 650 working order planes.:k:
Another question, India has an Air craft carrier, why hasn’t Pakistan purchased one yet? Is it worth having?

2bornot2b · September 22, 2002, 9:09pm

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*Originally posted by Adnan Ahmed: *
Another question, India has an Air craft carrier, why hasn't Pakistan purchased one yet? Is it worth having?
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QUOTE]*Originally posted by Adnan Ahmed: *

...Another question, India has an Air craft carrier, why hasn't Pakistan purchased one yet? Is it worth having? ...
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Pakistan's only enemy is India, as India is the only country that has threatened war against Pakistan. India shares its borders with Pakistan. Pakistan has the ability to launch missiles and accurately hit any target within India from its land bases. With this in mind Pakistan does not need an aircraft carrier.

Also, an aircraft carrier requires a supporting fleet of naval ships that in-itself costs a lot of money. Pakistan has got it's priorities right with regards to its navy, and is investing in submarines and fleet of naval ships for defensive posture and eliminating enemies advancing ships, rather than for launching strikes from the sea. With this in mind, and the size of Pakistan's coastline, and the ability to launch strikes from its land mass, Pakistan at this stage does not need an aircraft carrier and it supporting naval fleet.

ZulfiOKC · September 22, 2002, 9:38pm

Adnan ji, to run a single air craft carrier is very astronomical. I saw a program on History International sometime last year, according to which to maintain a full fledged air craft carrier, it costs $50,000 per hour, meaning about $438000000 per year.

Adnan_Ahmed · September 23, 2002, 3:17am

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*Originally posted by ZulfiOKC: *

Adnan ji, to run a single air craft carrier is very astronomical. I saw a program on History International sometime last year, according to which to maintain a full fledged air craft carrier, it costs $50,000 per hour, meaning about $438000000 per year.
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Im surpirsed the Indians can afford that. But what a wasye of Money if they never use it. ;)

Adnan_Ahmed · September 23, 2002, 3:18am

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*Originally posted by 2bornot2b: *

QUOTE]*Originally posted by Adnan Ahmed: *

...Another question, India has an Air craft carrier, why hasn't Pakistan purchased one yet? Is it worth having? ...
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Pakistan's only enemy is India, as India is the only country that has threatened war against Pakistan. India shares its borders with Pakistan. Pakistan has the ability to launch missiles and accurately hit any target within India from its land bases. With this in mind Pakistan does not need an aircraft carrier.

Also, an aircraft carrier requires a supporting fleet of naval ships that in-itself costs a lot of money. Pakistan has got it's priorities right with regards to its navy, and is investing in submarines and fleet of naval ships for defensive posture and eliminating enemies advancing ships, rather than for launching strikes from the sea. With this in mind, and the size of Pakistan's coastline, and the ability to launch strikes from its land mass, Pakistan at this stage does not need an aircraft carrier and it supporting naval fleet.
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Good point. Thanks.