I normally would use anything from the drugstore like Neutrogena or Aveeno. However, I’ve been reading more and more about these sunscreens aren’t good because they don’t contain Zinc Oxide or Titanium Dioxide. So just curious…you guys know any effective ones for men and women?
Thanks
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I use Devita and love it. It has 19% Zinc which is good.
Amazon.com: Devita Solar Protective Moisturizer SPF 30+ – 2.5 fl oz: Beauty
I also bought the Juice Beauty CC Cream from ULTA last week. This has 20% Zinc and great for women who want some coverage. I’ve only used it twice but so far very pleased with it.
Amazon.com: Juice Beauty Stem Cellular Repair CC Cream, Warm Glow, 1.7 fl. oz.: Beauty
I’m about NC40ish. Most sunscreen’s with Zinc tend to leave a white cast. But for anyone who has light skin, the following are some other Zinc based sunscreens that generally get great reviews. I have only tried the FIRST one…I didn’t like it b/c of the white cast.
BurnOut sunscreen, spf lip balm. Chemical-free, zinc oxide sunscreens. (both Eco sensitive & Ocean tested are good)
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^Paheli - do you order devita from amazon? They apparently changed the formula, and there's been a lot of negative reviews for the last year or so. Have you noticed any difference?
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Paheli your knowledge on the nitty gritty of these ingredients and it's uses amazes me!
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is SPF 15 enough?
i have a SPF 30 cream but it seem very thick for the face and leaves you slightly white-ish
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^Paheli - do you order devita from amazon? They apparently changed the formula, and there's been a lot of negative reviews for the last year or so. Have you noticed any difference?
You are right. They changed the formula right before 2013 summer. They changed their Zinc supplier for the face sunscreen (the link I posted above) and got rid of Vitamin A from their body sunscreen. I do order mine from Amazon & the last time I ordered it is last summer (I ordered 3 tubes & still using them). I have not noticed much difference on the tubes I got last summer BUT there is a chance I may have received the old formula.
If you are hesitant...I could recommend ordering directly from Devita b/c they have a return policy. OR maybe even calling them & seeing if they'd be willing to send you a sample before your purchase. It never hurts to call & ask. :)
Also, try the Juice Beauty CC cream. That's at Ulta where you can return & get full refund. With 20% Zinc it also has great protection and being tinted....it eliminates the need for foundation or BB cream (at least for me).
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Paheli your knowledge on the nitty gritty of these ingredients and it's uses amazes me!
Haha thank you! :) I had horrible skin during my teens/early 20's. So when I got into skin care big time....I just did A LOT of reading/research on products/ingredients etc.
is SPF 15 enough?
i have a SPF 30 cream but it seem very thick for the face and leaves you slightly white-ish
1) I personally don't pay attention to the SPF. With physical sunscreen's (ie. zinc based)....its the Zinc that provides the protection so I only look at the Zinc %.
2) Just like with foundations, powder etc....sunscreen is also a trial/error process. Due to various skin types/textures/tones.....not all sunscreen's will work for everyone. The only thing I can say is that you try out as many as you can & try to get samples OR buy from places where you can return if that's possible.
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I ordered from amazon in october last year and I did have the same issues as the reviewers. Definitely left a white cast and not only that but the sunscreen was actually gritty, it had particles in it that scratched my face when I tried to rub it in. I bought one from whole foods as well and had the same issue.
I wasn’t really able to find a sunscreen moisturizer that would work well so I just use moisturizer and sunscreen separately now. I’d been using Badger Aloe Vera Unscented Sunscreen Lotion instead. It does leave a bit of a white cast, but I think any physical sunscreen will to some extent (I’m NC30). I like that Badger is natural and use non nano zinc oxide. They discontinued the one I was using so i’ve just ordered Badger Unscented Sunscreen Cream, Organic Sunscreen Badger SPF30 Unscented Cream - Safe Zinc Oxide Protection.
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Thanks guys!
Maybe I'll try giving Devita a shot, although you guys are saying it might have changed. Paheli, since you have so much wealth of knowledge - I wanna ask if you think it actually is still ok to use the regular drug store sunscreens or even something like a Lancome/or other brands sunscreen from Sephora?
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^ The formula of Devita has changed but that doesn't mean the quality has gone down. Even if you're hesitant on ordering Devita online.... why not go try the Juice Beauty one at Ulta? You can go try that on in person.
As for other sunscreens.....something is better than nothing. But the quality does vary and in my opinion, physical sunscreen (ie. ones with a high level of Zinc) are the best protection. So when buying a sunscreen...no matter the brand....all you need to do is look at the ingredient list. :)
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I tried devita in a store and was horrified at the white specks it left. I LOVED the previous version like many other people, it was flawless and absorbed so well into skin.
I just ordered BurnOut eco sensitive. Will report back with a review.
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Thanks guys!
Maybe I'll try giving Devita a shot, although you guys are saying it might have changed. Paheli, since you have so much wealth of knowledge - I wanna ask if you think it actually is still ok to use the regular drug store sunscreens or even something like a Lancome/or other brands sunscreen from Sephora?
If you don't want a white cast avoid sunscreens which contain a physical barrier against the sun rays such as zinc oxide and titanium dioxide which tends to do this. You could use chemical sunscreen that have avobenzene however these tend to cause skin reactions with some people.
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If you don't want a white cast avoid sunscreens which contain a physical barrier against the sun rays such as zinc oxide and titanium dioxide which tends to do this. You could use chemical sunscreen that have avobenzene however these tend to cause skin reactions with some people.
I would avoid chemical sunscreens. Chemical sunscreens contain oxybenzone, avobenzone, octisalate, octocrylene, homosalate and octinoxate and several of these mimic hormones and disrupt the hormone system. Some research on animals suggests that oxybenzone and octinoxate – are toxic to reproductive systems or interfere with normal development.
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^ The formula of Devita has changed but that doesn't mean the quality has gone down. Even if you're hesitant on ordering Devita online.... why not go try the Juice Beauty one at Ulta? You can go try that on in person.
As for other sunscreens.....something is better than nothing. But the quality does vary and in my opinion, physical sunscreen (ie. ones with a high level of Zinc) are the best protection. So when buying a sunscreen...no matter the brand....all you need to do is look at the ingredient list. :)
We don't have Ulta here in Canada but I'll look if other stores carry Juice Beauty.
I've seen some at Sephora with 7% or 8% zinc. is that ok enough too? What if there's no zinc but Titanium Oxide (usually 2ish %)?
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^ 7%-8% Zinc should be fine for minimal daily exposure (ie. driving, walking in parking lot etc.). I have never worn/looked at sunscreen's with Titanium Oxide only and haven't done enough reading on it to answer the second part of your question.
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We don't have Ulta here in Canada but I'll look if other stores carry Juice Beauty.
I've seen some at Sephora with 7% or 8% zinc. is that ok enough too? What if there's no zinc but Titanium Oxide (usually 2ish %)?
Titanium dioxide blocks UVB and short UVA (320-340 nm, a.k.a UVA-2). It is is less effective against long UVA (340-400 nm, a.k.a UVA-1) unlike zinc oxide which offers full spectrum protection. So I wouldn't go with a purely titanium dioxide sunscreen.
In Canada Murale (which is shoppers high end brand) sell Juice Beauty.
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I tried BurnOut and love it! There's no white cast, and it blends in very nicely. It's not very moisturizing though, hence needs doubling up with a good moisturizer.
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I would avoid chemical sunscreens. Chemical sunscreens contain oxybenzone, avobenzone, octisalate, octocrylene, homosalate and octinoxate and several of these mimic hormones and disrupt the hormone system. Some research on animals suggests that oxybenzone and octinoxate – are toxic to reproductive systems or interfere with normal development.
Really...none of these are good/effective? I was reading online, it said along with zinc, titanium...avobenzone and meroxyl (I think it was) are good in blocking UVA/UVB rays as well.
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they are effective but they can also be harmful to the health. Zinc and titanium are not the problem because they provide physical protection. Avobenzone on its own only provides UVA protection. It also tends to degrade completely when used with zinc and titanium so I doubt most suncreens will contain all those 3.
Meroxyl on the other hand is supposed to be a safer chemical ingredient. Make sure you use a sunscreen with Meroxyl XL (Meroxyl SX has to be combined with other ingredients) as this provides full UVA and UVB protection.
Really...none of these are good/effective? I was reading online, it said along with zinc, titanium...avobenzone and meroxyl (I think it was) are good in blocking UVA/UVB rays as well.
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European and Canadian sunscreens are more efficient than US ones as they cobtain both types if Mexoryl as well as tinosorb. The FDA has maybe approved of only one of the mexoryls and I can't remember if tinosorb has been approved.