Sunrise from West

Sorry about that. What I meant was that this is one of the 'major' signs i'm expecting will happen very soon.

While the world is fighting and some seem to be busy making peace... they all think they'll be here forever.

The future won't be that bright, it's only prophecised to go worse. Nastrodomos even predicted the collapse of the twin towers in the US 100 years later, so how come it's happened now? It could only mean more trouble must be ahead.

The days of the 'Harj' or 'Hajar' I feel are drawing near.

when "blind faith" is combined with "the blind leading the blind" ..........I guess the best thing to do is get out of the way

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*Originally posted by PakistaniDragon: *
Nastrodomos even predicted the collapse of the twin towers in the US 100 years later, so how come it's happened now? It could only mean more trouble must be ahead.
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That is why I say dont believe in everything you read get to the root. You see the people who claim that Nastrodomos predicted this 9/11 attack are actually lying. Show me one writting of Nastrodomos, out of the many he has written, which talks about 9/11. It is not true, he never wrote in any of his book about this. It is some kinda proporganda. Beware of what you read.

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*Originally posted by Stupid Idiot: *
That is why I say dont believe in everything you read get to the root. You see the people who claim that Nastrodomos predicted this 9/11 attack are actually lying. Show me one writting of Nastrodomos, out of the many he has written, which talks about 9/11. It is not true, he never wrote in any of his book about this. It is some kinda proporganda. Beware of what you read.
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You might be right brother. I only became aware of this by another young person who converted to Islam. Personally i've not read any of the Nostradamos books nor I know much about this person.

However reading any works by 'David Ike' reaveals that most of the September 11 is just another drama which the ordinary people do not understand.

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*Originally posted by Stu: *
when "blind faith" is combined with "the blind leading the blind" ..........I guess the best thing to do is get out of the way
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Is this another racist comment by you? Do you think that not even one of the 1.4 Billion Muslim people have any intelligence whatsoever?

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*Originally posted by MMughal: *

Now the question, what is retrograde motion?

Retrograde motion is a phenomena that is observed from the earth by looking at other planets as to how they seem to move in the sky. Let us look at this in another way.
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Errrr, this phenomenon was talked about over 14 centuries ago. Why was there any need to warn people about this?

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*Originally posted by MMughal: * This phenomenon is true for any planet but not the earth because we are living on the earth. Only if we could live on some other planet, we will observe this phenomenon regarding the earth.
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Americans will be visiting Mars soon by the year 2050, so they'll come back and tell us.

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*Originally posted by Stu: * Pardon my interruption, and no real offense intended, but this sounds like something a person in a suicide cult would say.

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I see everyday of my life as a last day. Don't know when God will pick me up. (a century is only 36,525 days long you know)

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*Originally posted by Stu: * I don't know if I should be concerned, laugh or be scared?
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If your a believer you should be prepared for the Hour.

Whenever the Companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) used to be laughing, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) used to remind them of 'death' and the 'torments of the grave'.

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*Originally posted by Femme Fatale: *
MMughal what you are saying is that the rising of the sun from the west doesn't actually happen but just seems so when looking from another planet? So whenever on earth the sun rises from the west we won't be able to tell since we r living on this planet but someone looking from out of space or another planet will be able to tell?
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Hadiths (prophetic sayings) do confirm that this phenomenon will happen all of a sudden.

Here’s a little java applet that shows graphically what retrograde motion is. Very useful for understanding :slight_smile:

http://www.astro.uiuc.edu/projects/data/Retrograde/

From this its evident that retrograde motion is not going to be responsible for the sun rising from the west, because its more or less an optical illusion of sorts, that is to an observer a planet appears to be moving around back and fortyh when it really isnt.

The sun rising from the west is going to be a seperate phenomenon, perhaps the earth will start spinning the other way on its axis ? Allah knows best.

I'm not worried about how it works, offcourse there's always some mechanism driving something that has been created.

I want to know when it will (or might) happen on Earth?

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*Originally posted by Stupid Idiot: *
That is why I say dont believe in everything you read get to the root. You see the people who claim that Nastrodomos predicted this 9/11 attack are actually lying. Show me one writting of Nastrodomos, out of the many he has written, which talks about 9/11. It is not true, he never wrote in any of his book about this. It is some kinda proporganda. Beware of what you read.
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I am not saying that Nostradamos's prophecies are all true but....
Why do you feel so threatend by what Nostradamos wrote about 9/11?
And btw, what is the root that you are asking people to get to? and how do you get to the root?