Sunni Scholar silenced by Shia

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For all you sunnis that have no knowledge of the ahl bait in the Qur’an, see how your sunni scholar was left baffled.

You, praise to Allah, have studied the Book
thoroughly, becoming acquainted with both its
obvious and implied meanings. Has there been
anyone praised therein like the Purified `itra?
Have its perfect verses described any as
“purified from all uncleanness”[1] other than
them? Has the verse of Purification been
revealed in honour of anyone else?[2] Has the
perfect Revelation commanded love for any
others?[3] Has Gabriel brought the verse of
Mubahala in praise of anyone else?[4]

Has “Hal Ata” been revealed in praise of
others? No! I swear

By the Lord Who rightly used it for them, Who is
right and fair.[5]

Are they not “Allah’s Rope” concerning whom
He has said: “Hold together to Allah’s Rope and
do not be divided (Qur’an, 3:103)”[6]? And “the
truthful” concerning whom He has said: “Be ye
all with the Truthful (Qur’an, 9:119);”[7]
“Allah’s path” about which He has said: “Do not
follow different paths else they should divert
you from Allah’s path (Qur’an, 6:153),”[8] the
ones “entrusted with authority among you
(Qur’an, 4:59),”[9] the “custodians of
Revelation” about whom He says: “Ask the
custodians of Revelation when you do not know
(Qur’an, 21:7),”[10] the believers about whom
He says: “Whoever differs from the Messenger,
after guidance has been made clear to him,
following paths other than those of the
Believers, We shall leave him in the path he has
chosen and place him in Hell, what an evil
refuge (Qur’an, 4:115),”[11] and the “guides”
about whom He says: “You are a warner, and
for each nation there is a guide”?[12] Are they
not among those upon whom Allah has showered
His blessings and to whom He has referred in
the Fatiha and the Glorious Qur’an saying
“Guide us unto the Right Path, the Path of those
whom You have blessed,”[13] and He has also
said: “These are with those whom Allah has
blessed from among the prophets, the truthful,
the martyrs and the righteous (Qur’an,
4:69)”?[14]

Has He not granted them the general authority?
Has He not confined it only to them after the
Prophet? Read: “Your Master is Allah and His
Messenger and the Believers who uphold
prayers and pay zakat even while prostrating;
whoever takes for Master Allah and His
Messenger and the Believers, then the Party of
Allah are indeed the victorious (Qur’an,
5:58).”[15] Has He not made salvation for those
who repent and do good deeds dependent upon
accepting their guided authority, saying: “I am
most Forgiving for those who repent, believe, do
good deeds, and received guidance (Qur’an,
20:82)”[16]? Isn’t their wilayat part of the
“trust” about which the Almighty says: “We
offered the trust unto the heavens, the earth, and
the mountains, but they all refused to bear it out
of extreme fear, then man bore it: he is most
unjust, most ignorant (Qur’an, 33:72)”?[17]

Have they not been the “peace” wherein Allah
has commanded everyone to enter, saying, “O ye
who believe! Enter in peace all of you, and do
not follow the steps of Satan (Qur’an,
2:208)”[18]. Are they not the “blessing”
concerning whom Allah the Sublime has said,
“You will be questioned on that Day about the
Blessing (Qur’an, 102:8)”[19]? Has not the
Messenger of Allah (pbuh) been commanded to
convey all of this? Has Allah not emphasized
conveying it in such a language which sounded
like threatening, saying, “O Messenger! Convey
that which has been revealed unto you, and if
you do not do it, then you have not really
conveyed His Message at all, and Allah shall
protect you from (mischievous) people (Qur’an,
5:70)”?[20] Has not the Messenger of Allah,
peace be upon him and his progeny, conveyed it
on the Ghadir Day, having reached its plains and
delivered the Message, whereupon Allah
revealed this congratulating verse: “Today have
I completed your religion for you, perfected My
blessing unto you, and accepted Islam as your
religion (Qur’an, 5:4)”?[21]

Have you noticed what your Lord did with the
person who openly denied their authority saying,
“O Allah! If this Message is truly from Thee,
then let stones fall upon us[22] like rain from the
skies, or cause a severe torment to befall upon
us”? Allah hurled a Sijjil stone at him as He had
done with the Fellows of the Elephant. He
revealed these verses on that occasion: “A
person questioned about a penalty to befall the
unbelievers which cannot be warded off: (a
penalty) from Allah, Lord of the Ways of Ascent
(Qur’an, 70:1­2).”

People will cetainly be questioned about such
authority when they are resurrected as indicated
in the explanation of the verse saying: “And
follow in their footsteps, for they have the
authority (Qur’an, 37:24).”[23] There is no room
to wonder any longer, then, especially when we
discern the fact that their authority has been
sanctioned by Allah unto people through His
prophets, providing proofs and arguments for it,
as indicated by the explanation of His saying:
“And ask the Messengers whom We sent before
thee (Qur’an, 43:45).”[24] Nay! Allah has even
taken for it a promise on the Day of Alasto from
the souls of His creatures even before creating
their physical forms, as referred to in this verse:
“When thy Lord drew forth from the children of
Adam - from their loins - their descendants,
making them promise, asking them: Am I not your Lord?' They said: Yes! We testify!’ This is
so lest you should say on the Day of Judgment:
`Of this we were never mindful (Qur’an,
7:172)'.”[25] Through their intercession has
Allah granted forgiveness to Adam who learned
the words of repentance referred to in Chapter 2,
Verse 37, of the Holy Qur’an.[26]

“Allah does not expose them to torture,”[27] for
they are the security of the inhabitants of earth
and mankind’s means towards Him. They are the
ones of whom people are jealous and about
whom Allah says: “Should they feel jealous of
them because Allah Has granted them His
favours (Qur’an, 4:54)”?[28] They are the ones
who are “deeply grounded in knowledge” about
whom He says: “Those who are deeply
grounded in knowledge say: `We believe
(Qur’an, 3:7)!'”[29] They are the ones who will
be upon the Heights and to whom Allah refers
when he says, “Upon the Heights are men who
know all by their marks (Qur’an, 7:48).”[30]
They are the men of truth about whom He says:
“Among the Believers are men who fulfilled
their promise unto Allah; some of them have
passed away, while others are waiting, and they
have not changed in the least (Qur’an,
33:23).”[31] They are the ones who glorify
Allah continuously. About them He has said:
“He is Glorified in the early morning and during
the night by men who are not divered, by either
trade or selling, from mentioning Allah, the
saying of prayers, or the paying of zakat: they
fear the Day when hearts and sights are
overturned (Qur’an, 24:36­37).”[32]

Their houses are the ones mentioned in Allah’s
verses saying: “In houses which Allah permitted
to be elevated and His Name be recited
therein.”[33] Allah has made their niche, in
Surat An-Nur (Qur’an, 24:35),[34] an example
for His own Light:

Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth.
The parable of His Light is a niche, within it is a
Lamp: the lamp is enclosed in glass; the glass is
as (bright as) a brilliant star lit from a blessed
tree, an olive, neither of the east nor of the west,
whose oil is well­nigh luminous, though fire
scarcely touches it: Light upon Light! Allah
guides whom He will to His Light: Allah sets
forth parables for men, and Allah knows all
things.

They are the foremost in accepting the faith and
implementing it, and they are the nearest to
Allah, as He indicates in Chapter 56, verses 10
and 11.[35] They are those who testify to the
Prophet’s truthfulness (Qur’an, 4:69).[36] They
are the martyrs and the virtuous. Regarding them
and their followers has Allah said: “Among Our
creation is a nation calling unto the right
guidance through the truth, and they are most just
therein” (Qur’an, 7:181).[37] Also, Allah has
said the following about their party and about
that of their enemies: “Inhabitants of the Fire are
not equal to those of Paradise: inhabitants of
Paradise are the victorious.”[38] About both
parties He has also said: “Should We treat those
who believe and do good deeds as We treat
those who cause corruption on earth, or should
We equal the virtuous to the corrupt (Qur’an,
38:28)?”[39] He has also said the following
verse concerning both parties: “Do those who
commit bad deeds surmise that We will treat
them like We treat those who believe and do
good deeds, in life and in death? Ill is their
judgment.”[40] About them and their supporters
He has said: “Those who believe and do good
deeds are the best of creation (Qur’an,
98:7).”[41]

About them and their adversaries Allah has said:
“These are two opponents who differed
regarding their Lord: those who disbelieve will
be clothed with clothes of fire: boiling liquid
shall be poured on their heads (Qur’an,
22:19).”[42] Regarding them and their enemy,
Allah has revealed these verses: “Is this who
has been a believer like unto him that who has
been an evil­doer? They are not equal. As for
those who believe and do good deeds, their
abode shall be Perpetual Gardens, a reward for
their good deeds. As for those who cause
corruption, their abode is Hell-fire; every time
they want to get out of it, they are turned back
into it and is said to them: `Taste the torment of
the Fire in which you disbelieved (Qur’an,
32:19­ 20).'”[43]

Concerning them and those who boasted of
providing water for the pilgrims and looking
after the Haram mosque, Allah has revealed this
verse: “Do you count the providing of the
pilgrims with water and the maintenance of the
Haram mosque equal to (the value of) those who
believe in Allah and the Last Day and fight in the
Way of Allah? They are not equal in the eyes of
Allah, and Allah does not lead the wrong­doers
(Qur’an, 9:19).”[44]

About their triump in many trials and the
magnitude of their patience, the Almighty says:
“Among people is one who sells his life in
return for Allah’s Pleasure; Allah is Clement
towards His servants (Qur’an, 2:207).”[45]
Regarding their endeavour in the way of Allah
and their toil, Allah has said: “Allah has traded
the believers’ lives for Paradise: they fight in the
Way of Allah and they kill or get killed. It is His
true Promise in the Torah, the Gospel and the
Qur’an: who fulfills his promise better than
Allah? Rejoice, therefore, for your bargain; that
is the great victory. Those who turn (to Allah) in
repentance, worship Him, and praise Him,
wander in devotion to the Cause of Allah, bow
down and prostrate in prayer, enjoin goodness
and forbid evil, and observe the limits set by
Allah (they do rejoice). So, proclaim the glad
tidings to the Believers (Qur’an, 9:111­112).”
“Those who (in charity) spend of their
possessions by night and by day, in secrecy and
in public, have their reward with their Lord: on
them there shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve
(Qur’an, 2:274).”[46]

They truly say only the truth. The Truthful
Himself, blessed be His Name, has borne
witness to that, saying: “Those who have brought
forth the truth, believing therein, are indeed the
God­fearing (Qur’an, 39:33).”[47] They are the
faithful relatives of the Messenger of Allah
(pbuh), his kinfolk, whom Allah Has chosen for
His beautiful care and great attention, saying:
“And warn your near in kin (Qur’an, 26:214).”
They are his relatives, and “Relatives have the
priorities according to the Book of Allah”
(Qur’an, 8:75; see also 33:6). On Doomsday,
they will ascend to his rank and join him in the
perpetual gardens of felicity as witnessed by
Allah’s statement:

Those who believe and whose families follow
them in faith - to them shall We join their
families: We shall never deprive them (of the
fruit) of aught of their deeds, (yet) each is in
pledge for his deeds. (Qur’an, 52:21)[48]

They have the right dues as the Qur’an has
stated: “And give the near in kin his dues
(Qur’an, 17:26),” and they have the fifth:
nobody’s responsibility will be cleared until he
defrays it: “Know ye this: whatever ye obtain of
spoils, its fifth goes to Allah, the Messenger, and
the (Messenger’s) kinfolk (Qur’an, 8:41).” They
are the ones upon whom Allah’s favours have
been bestowed as implied in this verse: “What
Allah has bestowed on His Apostle - (and taken
away) from them - for this ye made no
expedition with either cavalry or camelry, but
Allah gives power to His apostles over any He
pleases, and Allah Has power over all things
(Qur’an, 59:7).”

They are Ahl al­Bayt addressed by Allah thus:
“Allah desires to remove all abomination from
you, Ahl al­Bayt, and purify you with a perfect
purification (Qur’an, 33:33).” They are the
family of Yasin whom Allah greets in the
Glorious Qur’an thus: “Peace be unto the family
of Yasin (Qur’an, 37:130).”[49] And they are the
family of Muhammad upon whom greetings and
peace have been enforced by Allah Who says:
“Allah and His angels send greetings unto the
Prophet: O ye who believe! Send greetings unto
him and many salutations (Qur’an, 33:56).”[50]

Some people asked the Prophet, peace be upon
him and his progeny, “O Messenger of Allah!
We know how to greet you with peace, but how
can we greet you with prayers?” He, Allah’s
peace and blessings be upon him and his
progeny, answered, "Say: O Allah! Send blessings unto Muhammad and the family of Muhammad,'" according to the hadith. It was then understood then that greeting them was part of the prayers enjoined by this verse. This is why learned men have included the verse quoted above among others in their praise. Ibn Hajar has listed it in part 11 of his Al-Sawaiq
al-Muhriqa among verses in their praise,[51]
peace be upon them. A good resort for them and
a good reward: Gardens of Eden with gates
wide open to receive them.[52]

Who can compete with them? In the sun is
meaning and heat,

Parching, exerting the one who dares to
compete.

Allah has chosen them for His favours, and they
are the ones who are faster than all others in
doing good deeds; they inherit the Book of
Allah; about them He has said the following
therein: “Among men is one who wrongs his
own self (by ignoring the Imams), and one who
seeks righteousness (by following the Imams),
and one who is faster than others in doing good
deeds by the Will of Allah (who is the Imam
himself): this indeed is Allah’s great favour
(Qur’an, 35:32).”[53]

These verses which demonstrate the Imams’
virtues and merits must suffice. Ibn Abbas has said: "In praise of Ali alone, three hundred
verses were revealed."[54] Others say that one
fourth of the Holy Qur’an has been revealed in
their praise. This comes as no surprise when we
consider the fact that they and the Qur’an are
twin brothers who do not separate from one
another.

Be satisfied for now with what we have stated
here of the perfect verses of the Holy Qur’an.
Take them easily going and returning, making the
advent of morning beams, easily and nicely,
forgiving and at ease, from someone very well
acquainted therewith, for none can tell you better
than one endowed with experience, and peace
be with you.

Sincerely,

Sh

The first one is Muhammed, the last one is Muhammed, they are all Muhammed (the 12 holy imams)

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Assalam-Alaikum,

Yawn

Wasalaam.

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Run my sunni friend run -

When clear proofs are presented to you then -

run you sunnis run.

The first one is Muhammed, the last one is Muhammed, they are all Muhammed (the 12 holy imams)

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a1shah, i didnt need to read the that whole cut and paste essay...i read ur signature which was enough...take some time off ..buddy..

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Hey a1shah, Man u should explain your signature. Many people dont understand it.
later

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[quote]
Originally posted by X_Communist:
a1shah, i didnt need to read the that whole cut and paste essay...i read ur signature which was enough...take some time off ..buddy..
[/quote]

Some people just like to object, and when you present them the truth they just dont wanna listen.

wah

Keep ignoring the truth friends
you are mere examples why there are 73 sects in Islam

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ouch..

truth hurts , eh?

http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/wink.gif

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[quote]
Originally posted by Insaniyat:
** you are mere examples why there are 73 sects in Islam**
[/quote]

Dheklo, yehi to hain jo hamaray beech main larai jhaghra kartay hain!

i am sugar spice and everything nice, before messing with me U better think twice!

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The thing is MADE up, its like a fairy tale to help other shia sleep better at night. Its FAKE. lol!!!! I wonder how far you people would go to make wrong right. No matter how hard you try.

You people can't take the truth, instead you creat lies to prove the truth wrong. How shameful that is.

*V~V~V*He came, He saw, He conquered*V~V~V*

----*High Priest-OF-Painful Truth*----

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Praise be the Allah (swt) - Lord of the Worlds.

Here, you have one confused woman (X-Communist) who has nothing better to say than so she decides to ignore reading the truth and prefers to live in ignorance.

Well, women, like Aisha before you, have a tendency to get emotional so nothing can be done about that.

But then - well then - you have Watcher. What can we say about you. Your depth of ignorance finds no bounds. You live in a world of accusations and false beliefs that only you and yr forefathers could propagate.

Have you seen everyone how not one sunni has been able to refute the contents of the message above. Yes, not one.

When you own esteemed Sunni scholar admitted defeat, what can I expect of you ordinary sunnis ?

Run my sunnis, run.

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X-Communist, before you pull your normal sunni tactics, beware that my signature is derived from the blessed words of our holy messenger, Allah's blessing be upon him and his progeny.

As our holy apostle said to Imam Ali (as) "You are from me and I am from you. You are to me as Aaron was to Moses, except that there will be no prophet after me".

When asked about Al-Mahdi, the holy messenger said that he would be the ninth decendent from Imam Hussain (as), his name would be Muhammed, and would be the Imam of the time, truthful, and Allah (swt)'s representative and proof on earth.

He then described them with the holy words that you critize in my signature.

The words tell us that all 12 imams represent the true Islam. In them, you will find the true meaning of the Qur'an and the rightful ways of the sunnat of the holy prophet. What they tell you, teach you, prohibit you from, is exactly the same as what the prophet (pbuh) would tell you, teach you, and prohit you from. And he who pleases our holy apostle will attain Allah (swt)'s pleasure.

This is the meaning, X-Communist, and not the twisted meaning that sunnis like you jump to conclude.

The first one is Muhammed, the last one is Muhammed, they are all Muhammed (the 12 holy imams)

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Sunnis, atleast ponder on the following Quranic verse

"O Messenger! Convey
that which has been revealed unto you, and if
you do not do it, then you have not really
conveyed His Message at all, and Allah shall
protect you from (mischievous) people (Qur'an,
5:70)"?[20]

Has not the Messenger of Allah,
peace be upon him and his progeny, conveyed it
on the Ghadir Day, having reached its plains and
delivered the Message, whereupon Allah
revealed this congratulating verse:

"Today have
I completed your religion for you, perfected My
blessing unto you, and accepted Islam as your
religion (Qur'an, 5:4)"?[21]

You all still have time to learn the truth

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what does MOHAMMED mean???

how about we begin with that?

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X-communist;

Our holy apostle was strictly ordered to announce his successor. This is the occassion of Ghadir Khum where the holy apostle (pbuh) declared "Of whomever I am the Master, Ali is his Master".

This is the celebrated occassion of Ghadir.

Please note where in the verse Allah (swt) is telling the prophet (pbuh) not to be frightened of the people as Allah (swt) would protect him.

Why say this ? Wasn't the prophet (pbuh) surrounded by his sahabahs as this verse was revealed after the holy messenger's last pilgrimage. Who was he scared of ?

This verse shows that not all sahabahs were good. Our holy prophet knew that there will be alot of animosity amonst the munafiq companions once Imam Ali (as) is designated as the Wali (successor).

For yr info.

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Every sunni should be acquainted with the verse of Wilayat (succession) and its implication of who is the rightful successor of the holy prophet (pbuh):

Yes, indeed, I would like to recite unto you
one of the perfect verses of Allah, the Exalted,
the Almighty, in His great Book which
distinguishes right from wrong. It is one of the
verses of Surat al Ma'ida (Table of Viands):[1]

Only Allah is your wali and His Messenger and
those who believe, those who say their prayers
and offer zakat (even) while prostrating (in
prayers). And whoever takes for wali Allah, His
Messenger, and the believers, they, indeed, are
the party of Allah; they are the ones who shall
achieve victory.

(Qur'an, 5:55-56)

Nobody doubts the fact that these verses were
revealed in honour of `Ali who offered his own
ring in the way of Allah while engaged in
performing the prayers.

2) The sahih books consecutively report,
through the authority of the Imams from among
the Purified Progeny, stating that it was revealed
in honour of Ali when he, out of charity, offered
his ring while prostrating in prayers. Refer to
what has been said in this regard by others such
as Ibn Salam who quotes hadith from the
Prophet, peace be upon him and his progeny.
Refer to it as published in Nisa'i's Sahih, or in
Al-Jami Bayna al-Sihah al-Sittah, in a chapter
dealing with the interpretation of Surat al
Ma'ida. Likewise, refer to the hadith of Ibn
Abbas who explains the meanings of these
verses in imam al-Wahidi's book Asbab
al-Nuzul. Al-Khatib has included it in
Al-Muttafaq.[2] Also refer to Ali's hadith in the
musnads of Ibn Mardawayh and Abul-Shaykh. If
you wish, refer to it in Kanz al-Ummal.

Its revelation to honour `Ali is a matter of
consensus among scholars of the exegesis of the
Holy Qur'an. Such consensus is attested to by
many Sunni scholars like Imam al-Qawshaji in
his chapter on imamate in Sharh al Tajrid.
Chapter 18 of Ghayat al-Maram includes one
hadith narrated through the Sunnis testifying to
our claim. Had I not aspired to be brief, in
addition to the fact that this issue is as clear as
the sun in midday, I would have quoted for you
many comments thereupon in authentic
chronicles, but, praise to Allah, it is a matter
which does not entertain any doubt. Despite that,
we do not like to let this letter be without a few
ahadith narrated by the majority of Muslims.

Suffices us what Imam Abu Ishaq Ahmed ibn
Ibrahim al-Nisaburi al-Tha`labi[3] has stated in
his Al-Tafsir al-Kabir. When the writer comes
to this verse, he quotes Abu Tharr al-Ghifari
saying:

"I have heard the Messenger of Allah, peace be
upon him and his progeny, with these ears - may
I be deaf if I tell a lie - and saw him with these
eyes - may I be blinded if I lie - saying: Ali is
the leader of the pious, the annihilator of
infidels; whoever supports him is supported by
Allah, and whoever abandons him is abandoned
by Allah.' I have, indeed, said my prayers once
in the company of the Messenger of Allah, peace
be upon him and his progeny, when a beggar
came to the mosque and nobody gave him
anything.Ali was in the state of ceremonial
prostration when he beckoned to him to take his
ring. The beggar came and took it from Ali's
finger, whereupon the Messenger of Allah,
peace be upon him and his progeny, invoked
Allah, the Almighty, the Omniscient, and prayed
Him on behalf ofAli saying: Lord! My Brother
Moses had prayed to you saying: Lord! Remove
the distress from my bosom, render my mission
easy for me, and untie my tongue's knot so that
people may understand me, and let me have a
vizier from my own kin, my brother Aaron, to
support my endeavour and participate in my
undertaking, so that we may both praise you a
great deal and mention your Name a great deal;
You have been most Kind unto us (Qur'an,
20:25-35);-thereupon, You inspired to him:
Verily, your prayer has been granted, O Moses!
(Qur'an, 20:36). Lord! I am Your servant and
Prophet; therefore, remove my distress, render
my mission easy for me, and grant me a vizier
from my kin,Ali, to support my endeavour'. By
Allah, the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon
him and his progeny, had hardly finished his
supplication before Gabriel, the trusted one,
brought him this verse: `Only Allah is your wali
and His Messenger and those who believe, those
who say their prayers and offer zakat (even)
while prostrating (in prayers). And whoever
takes for wali Allah, His Messenger, and the
believers, they, indeed, are the party of Allah;
they are the ones who shall achieve victory
(Qur'an, 5:55-56).'"

3) You, may Allah support righteousness through
your own person, know that the meaning of the
word "wali" in such a context is "one who has
the top priority in faring with one's affairs." We
say "Such and such is the minor's wali."
Lexicographers have made it clear that whoever
takes charge of someone's affairs is the latter's
wali. The meaning of the verse, therefore, is as
though Allah says that "the ones who take charge
of your affairs and have priority even over your
own lives in faring with the latter are: Allah, the
Almighty and Omniscient, His Messenger, and
Ali," for inAli alone have all these qualities
been combined: faith, saying the prayers, and
offering zakat even while prostrating in prayers,
and for whom these verses were thus revealed.
The Almighty has in these verses reserved
wilayat for Himself and for both His Messenger
and wasi in the same manner. The wilayat of
Allah, the Almighty and Omniscient, is general
and inclusive. So is the wilayat of the Prophet as
well as his wali; it carries the same meaning. It
is not possible to apply to it in this context the
meanings of "supporter, loved one, etc.," since
such a restriction [of application] is groundless,
as is quite obvious. I believe this is a quite clear
matter, and praise to Allah, Lord of the Worlds.

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Eminent Sunni scholar questions this verse and its implication

"Mumins" is Plural; Why Apply it to the
Singular?

Muharram 3, 1330

It may be said in rebutting your objection that the
phrase "the Mu'mins who say their prayers and
offer zakat (even) while prostrating (in
prayers)" is applied to the plural; so, why
should it be applied to the Imam, may Allah
glorify his countenance, who is singular? What
is your answer if you are asked thus?

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Shia scholar explains the grammer of this verse:

1) The answer to your question is that Arabs
apply the plural expression while addressing an
individual due to the nice effect it produces *.

2) A testimony to this fact is what the Almighty
says in Surat Al-i-`Imran:

Those to whom some people said: "A large
army has been raised against you; so, fear them,"
yet it only increased their faith, and they said:
"Allah suffices us, and He is the One upon
Whom we depend most." (Qur'an, 3:173)

The person implied in these verses of
Al-i-Imran is none other than Naim ibn Masud
al-Ashjai, according to the consensus of
scholars of exegesis, traditionists, and
chroniclers. Yet Allah Almighty has applied to
him, the singular person that he is, the plural
form just to express respect for those who did
not listen to his statements nor heeded his
dissuading calls. Abu Sufyan had given him ten
camels in order to demoralize and frighten the
Muslims regarding the strength of the
polytheists, and he did just that. Among his
statements then was: "People have gathered a
mighty force to attack you; so, fear for your own
lives." Many Muslims disliked the idea of
fighting that force just because of his statement,
but the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him
and his progeny, came out accompanied by
seventy cavaliers to meet them, and they all
returned from the battle-field safely, whereupon
this verse was revealed praising the seventy
believers who came out with the Messenger of
Allah, peace be upon him and his progeny,
heedless to the dissuasion of those who wished
to demoralize them.

In applying the word "people" for just one
individual, a nice and divine point is made
which is complimenting the seventy men who
came out with the Prophet. This surely sounds
more eloquent when used as such; it is better
than saying: "Those to whom a man said that a
large army had been raised..., etc.," as is
obvious. There are numerous verses in the Holy
Qur'an similar to this one, as well as in the
Arabic language as a whole. The Almighty Allah
says: "O you who believe! Remember Allah's
blessing unto you when some folks intended to
lay their (evil) hands upon you, and He
protected you against their harm." In fact, the
person who intended to lay his evil hands upon
them and hurt them was a man from the tribe of
Muharib named Ghawrath - others say it was
Amr ibn Jahsh of Banu al Nadir - who
unsheathed his sword and shook it intending to
strike the Holy Prophet (pbuh), but Allah, the
Almighty and the Glorified, foiled his attempt,
according to the narration of the incident as
recorded by traditionists, authors of chronicles,
and scholars of exegesis, and as transmitted by
Ibn Hisham in the campaign of That al Riqa' in
Vol. 3 of his book titled Sirah. Allah has
applied the collective plural "people" for this
lone man just to express His blessings, the Dear
One, the Omnipotent, upon the Muslim masses
manifested in the safety of the Prophet, peace be
upon him and his progeny. In the Mubahala
verse, He has applied both the singular and the
plural forms to the "sons," "women," and
"selves" to both the Hasanain, Fatima, andAli
in particular, just to honour to their lofty status,
may Allah be pleased with them. Examples for
the application of the plural form for the
individual wherever necessary are innumerable
and beyond recounting, and they all prove the
license to use the plural form while talking about
one individual whenever there is a nice eloquent
effect thereto.

3) In his interpretation of this verse, in
Mujma`ul Bayan fi Tafsir al-Qur'an, Imam
al-Tibrisi comments on the usage of the plural
form to refer to the Commander of the Faithful as
a token of respect and veneration, stating that
lexicographers describe the singular using the
plural form to show respect and veneration. He
says: "Sucn an application is too well known in
their language to require proofs."

4) In his Kashshaf, al-Zamakhshari mentions
another nice point when he says: "If you wonder
how it can be accurate to use the plural with
Ali, may Allah be pleased with him, I will tell
you that he is addressed in the plural form,
although he is only one man, so that people may
follow his example and earn rewards like his,
and so that Allah may point out the fact that a
believer's attitude should be likeAli's, that is,
being eager to do deeds of righteousness and
goodwill by looking after the poor, so much so
that even the performance of something which
does not permit any delay, such as saying the
prayers, should not make them postpone it till
they are through."

5) I personally have a nice and more precise
point. When the Almighty applied the plural
rather than the singular form, as many do, then
those who hated `Ali as well as all those who
were envious of and in competition with Banu
Hashim would not be able to tolerate hearing it
in the singular form, for they would then be
unable to hide the truth or water it down.
Because of their desperation, they might even do
something quite harmful to Islam. It is quite
possible that it was for this reason that the verse
was revealed in the plural form though applied
to the singular: in order to avoid the harm
resulting from disgracing those folks. The verses
after that particular one vary in form and status,
gradually preparing them for wilayat, till Allah
perfected His religion and completed His
blessing, as was his usual habit, peace be upon
him and his progeny, and that of the wise in
attaining what otherwise is quite difficult to
attain. Had the verse come in the singular form,
those folks would have then put their fingers in
their ears, covered themselves with their own
clothes and become stubborn, arrogant, and
naughty. This is a sublime wisdom manifested in
all the verses of the Holy Qur'an which were
revealed to highlight the attributes of the
Commander of the Faithful and those among his
purified household, as is quite obvious. We have
explained these statements and brought
irrefutable proofs and obvious testimonies in our
books Sabil al-Muminin and Tanzil al-Ayat,
and praise be to Allah for His Guidance and
Support, Wassalam.*

18

Rarediamond;

Learn something from above. Don't be haughty in the little arabic knowledge that you claim to possess.

The verse clearly indicated Imam Ali (as) as the Wali after the holy apostle.

Wa Salam.

19

im sorry, but did i skip over the MEANING of MOHAMMAD thru that long explanation???

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20

X-communist;

I posted the reply right after yr last message.

Regards.