Sunni Perspective on Shia Traditions

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Re: Sunni Perspective on Shia Traditions

@PyariCgudia

Ok here is another question. I talked to this guy a little more, because he initially told me he considers himself sunni, but now that I dissected out his beliefs he admits he is more of a combination of shia and sunni and that he sides more with sufi beliefs, which sound cool and all because they’re peaceful, but then I didn’t realize this following point, so some guidance from sunni schools of thoughts would be appreciated.

1. First time as a sunni I heard this. Ali (R) was a spiritual leader and spirituality and knowledge of the unknown and of how to control the nafs was passed down from Muhammad (SAW) to Ali (R) and so therefore he is an IMAM and the rest of his progeny also had this spirutality passed down to them. That its not necessary he was to be the first caliph but he was indeed the next spiritual leader after Muhammad (SAW)?

Huh?

This needs to be in Religion forum. Ali RadiAllahu Anhu is the gate of knowledge, if you want knowledge on Islam, beneficial knowledge, you must go with His Love ! You have two sciences in islam, shariah [rules, dos donts] and tassawuf [actually feeling Islam]. All the Sufis trace their tariqats through Ali Alaihis Salam except one who are certainly not far from Ali Alaihis Salam.

But there is no actual rules that Ali Alaihis Salam must be taken as the Imam, the first Imam, or the last.

According to Sunni Islam, many companions were better [urdu afzal?] at some things then other companions. Overall Abu Bakr Alaihis Salam is the best companion, followed by Umar Alaihis Salam, followed by Uthman Alaihis Sallam, followed by Ali Alaihis Salam.

Ali Alaihis Salam being taken as the spiritual leader of the tariqats is a proof that He is afzal in that respect, and some people do say this means He is first in this regard but it should not interfere with our fundamental belief which shias do not believe that Abu Bakr Alaihis Salam and Umar Alaihis Salam are the first and second Imams respectively