Sunnat and 'Ahle-Sunnat'

Sunnat and Ahle-Sunnat

Allah SWT in his glorious Quraan has used the word sunnat (as course of action or way of doing something) only for himself and not a single ayat can be referred that shows that Allah SWT has used this word “Sunnat” for any of his ‘Nabi’ or ‘Rasool’. Following are some verses which show the use of word “sunnat” in Holy Quraan.
Sura Al-asraa
[RIGHT]سُنَّةَ مَن قَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ مِن رُّسُلِنَا وَلاَ تَجِدُ لِسُنَّتِنَا تَحْوِيلاً {77[/RIGHT]
[Shakir 17:77] (This is Our) course with regard to those of Our messengers whom We sent before you, and you shall not find a change in Our course.
[Pickthal 17:77] (Such was Our) method in the case of those whom We sent before thee (to mankind), and thou wilt not find for Our method aught of power to change.
Sura Al-Ahzaab
[RIGHT]مَّا كَانَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ مِنْ حَرَجٍ فِيمَا فَرَضَ اللَّهُ لَهُ سُنَّةَ اللَّهِ فِي الَّذِينَ خَلَوْا مِن قَبْلُ وَكَانَ أَمْرُ اللَّهِ قَدَرًا مَّقْدُورًا {38}[/RIGHT]
[Shakir 33:38] There is no harm in the Prophet doing that which Allah has ordained for him; such has been the course of Allah with respect to those who have gone before; and the command of Allah is a decree that is made absolute:
[Pickthal 33:38] There is no reproach for the Prophet in that which Allah maketh his due. That was Allah’s way with those who passed away of old - and the commandment of Allah is certain destiny

Sura Al-Ahzaab
[RIGHT]سُنَّةَ اللَّهِ فِي الَّذِينَ خَلَوْا مِن قَبْلُ وَلَن تَجِدَ لِسُنَّةِ اللَّهِ تَبْدِيلًا {62[/RIGHT]
[Shakir 33:62] (Such has been) the course of Allah with respect to those who have gone before; and you shall not find any change in the course of Allah.
[Pickthal 33:62] That was the way of Allah in the case of those who passed away of old; thou wilt not find for the way of Allah aught of power to change.

Sura Faatir
[RIGHT]اسْتِكْبَارًا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَمَكْرَ السَّيِّئِ وَلَا يَحِيقُ الْمَكْرُ السَّيِّئُ إِلَّا بِأَهْلِهِ فَهَلْ يَنظُرُونَ إِلَّا سُنَّتَ الْأَوَّلِينَ فَلَن تَجِدَ لِسُنَّتِ اللَّهِ تَبْدِيلًا وَلَن تَجِدَ لِسُنَّتِ اللَّهِ تَحْوِيلًا {43[/RIGHT]
[Shakir 35:43] (In) behaving proudly in the land and in planning evil; and the evil plans shall not beset any save the authors of it. Then should they wait for aught except the way of the former people? For you shall not find any alteration in the course of Allah; and you shall not find any change in the course of Allah.
[Pickthal 35:43] (Shown in their) behaving arrogantly in the land and plotting evil; and the evil plot encloseth but the men who make it. Then, can they expect aught save the treatment of the folk of old? Thou wilt not find for Allah’s way of treatment any substitute, nor wilt thou find for Allah’s way of treatment aught of power to change.

Sura Ghafir
[RIGHT]فَلَمْ يَكُ يَنفَعُهُمْ إِيمَانُهُمْ لَمَّا رَأَوْا بَأْسَنَا سُنَّتَ اللَّهِ الَّتِي قَدْ خَلَتْ فِي عِبَادِهِ وَخَسِرَ هُنَالِكَ الْكَافِرُونَ {85[/RIGHT]
[Shakir 40:85] But their belief was not going to profit them when they had seen Our punishment; (this is) Allah’s law, which has indeed obtained in the matter of His servants, and there the unbelievers are lost.
[Pickthal 40:85] But their faith could not avail them when they saw Our doom. This is Allah’s law which hath ever taken course for His bondmen. And then the disbelievers will be ruined.

Sura Al-fatha
[RIGHT]سُنَّةَ اللَّهِ الَّتِي قَدْ خَلَتْ مِن قَبْلُ وَلَن تَجِدَ لِسُنَّةِ اللَّهِ تَبْدِيلًا {23[/RIGHT]
[Shakir 48:23] Such has been the course of Allah that has indeed run before, and you shall not find a change in Allah’s course.
[Pickthal 48:23] It is the law of Allah which hath taken course aforetime. Thou wilt not find for the law of Allah aught of power to change.

The words used for the practices and course of action of Anbia and Rasools are either ‘Millat’ or ‘Uswah’. Following are the verses in which these words are used.
The word “Millat” is used in:

Sura Al-baqara
[RIGHT]وَلَن تَرْضَى عَنكَ الْيَهُودُ وَلاَ النَّصَارَى حَتَّى تَتَّبِعَ مِلَّتَهُمْ قُلْ إِنَّ هُدَى اللّهِ هُوَ الْهُدَى وَلَئِنِ اتَّبَعْتَ أَهْوَاءهُم بَعْدَ الَّذِي جَاءكَ مِنَ الْعِلْمِ مَا لَكَ مِنَ اللّهِ مِن وَلِيٍّ وَلاَ نَصِيرٍ {120[/RIGHT]
[Shakir 2:120] And the Jews will not be pleased with you, nor the Christians until you follow their religion. Say: Surely Allah’s guidance, that is the (true) guidance. And if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, you shall have no guardian from Allah, nor any helper.
[Pickthal 2:120] And the Jews will not be pleased with thee, nor will the Christians, till thou follow their creed. Say: Lo! the guidance of Allah (Himself) is Guidance. And if thou shouldst follow their desires after the knowledge which hath come unto thee, then wouldst thou have from Allah no protecting guardian nor helper.

[RIGHT]وَمَن يَرْغَبُ عَن مِّلَّةِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ إِلاَّ مَن سَفِهَ نَفْسَهُ وَلَقَدِ اصْطَفَيْنَاهُ فِي الدُّنْيَا وَإِنَّهُ فِي الآخِرَةِ لَمِنَ الصَّالِحِينَ {130[/RIGHT]
[Shakir 2:130] And who forsakes the religion of Ibrahim but he who makes himself a fool, and most certainly We chose him in this world, and in the hereafter he is most surely among the righteous.
[Pickthal 2:130] And who forsaketh the religion of Abraham save him who befooleth himself? Verily We chose him in the world, and lo! in the Hereafter he is among the righteous.

[RIGHT]وَقَالُواْ كُونُواْ هُودًا أَوْ نَصَارَى تَهْتَدُواْ قُلْ بَلْ مِلَّةَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ حَنِيفًا وَمَا كَانَ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ {135[/RIGHT]
[Shakir 2:135] And they say: Be Jews or Christians, you will be on the right course. Say: Nay! (we follow) the religion of Ibrahim, the Hanif, and he was not one of the polytheists.
[Pickthal 2:135] And they say: Be Jews or Christians, then ye will be rightly guided. Say (unto them, O Muhammad): Nay, but (we follow) the religion of Abraham, the upright, and he was not of the idolaters.

Sura Aale-Imran
[RIGHT]قُلْ صَدَقَ اللّهُ فَاتَّبِعُواْ مِلَّةَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ حَنِيفًا وَمَا كَانَ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ {95[/RIGHT]
[Shakir 3:95] Say: Allah has spoken the truth, therefore follow the religion of Ibrahim, the upright one; and he was not one of the polytheists.
[Pickthal 3:95] Say: Allah speaketh truth. So follow the religion of Abraham, the upright. He was not of the idolaters.

Sura Al-Nisaa
[RIGHT]وَمَنْ أَحْسَنُ دِينًا مِّمَّنْ أَسْلَمَ وَجْهَهُ لله وَهُوَ مُحْسِنٌ واتَّبَعَ مِلَّةَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ حَنِيفًا وَاتَّخَذَ اللّهُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ خَلِيلاً {125[/RIGHT]
[Shakir 4:125] And who has a better religion than he who submits himself entirely to Allah? And he is the doer of good (to others) and follows the faith of Ibrahim, the upright one, and Allah took Ibrahim as a friend.
[Pickthal 4:125] Who is better in religion than he who surrendereth his purpose to Allah while doing good (to men) and followeth the tradition of Abraham, the upright? Allah (Himself) chose Abraham for friend.

Sura Al-Anaam
[RIGHT]قُلْ إِنَّنِي هَدَانِي رَبِّي إِلَى صِرَاطٍ مُّسْتَقِيمٍ دِينًا قِيَمًا مِّلَّةَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ حَنِيفًا وَمَا كَانَ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ {161[/RIGHT]
[Shakir 6:161] Say: Surely, (as for) me, my Lord has guided me to the right path; (to) a most right religion, the faith of Ibrahim the upright one, and he was not of the polytheists.
[Pickthal 6:161] Say: Lo! As for me, my Lord hath guided me unto a straight path, a right religion, the community of Abraham, the upright, who was no idolater.

Sura Al-Aaraaf
[RIGHT]قَالَ الْمَلأُ الَّذِينَ اسْتَكْبَرُواْ مِن قَوْمِهِ لَنُخْرِجَنَّكَ يَا شُعَيْبُ وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ مَعَكَ مِن قَرْيَتِنَا أَوْ لَتَعُودُنَّ فِي مِلَّتِنَا قَالَ أَوَلَوْ كُنَّا كَارِهِينَ {88[/RIGHT]
[Shakir 7:88] The chiefs, those who were proud from among his people said: We will most certainly turn you out, O Shu’aib, and (also; those who believe with you, from our town, or you shall come back to our faith. He said: What! though we dislike (it)?
[Pickthal 7:88] The chieftains of his people, who were scornful, said: Surely we will drive thee out, O Shu’eyb, and those who believe with thee, from our township, unless ye return to our religion. He said: Even though we hate it?
[RIGHT]قَدِ افْتَرَيْنَا عَلَى اللّهِ كَذِبًا إِنْ عُدْنَا فِي مِلَّتِكُم بَعْدَ إِذْ نَجَّانَا اللّهُ مِنْهَا وَمَا يَكُونُ لَنَا أَن نَّعُودَ فِيهَا إِلاَّ أَن يَشَاء اللّهُ رَبُّنَا وَسِعَ رَبُّنَا كُلَّ شَيْءٍ عِلْمًا عَلَى اللّهِ تَوَكَّلْنَا رَبَّنَا افْتَحْ بَيْنَنَا وَبَيْنَ قَوْمِنَا بِالْحَقِّ وَأَنتَ خَيْرُ الْفَاتِحِينَ {89[/RIGHT]
[Shakir 7:89] Indeed we shall have forged a lie against Allah If we go back to your religion after Allah has delivered us from It, and it befits us not that we should go back to it, except if Allah our Lord please: Our Lord comprehends all things :n His knowledge; in Allah do we trust: Our Lord! decide between us and our people with truth; and Thou art the best of deciders.
[Pickthal 7:89] We should have invented a lie against Allah if we returned to your religion after Allah hath rescued us from it. It is not for us to return to it unless Allah our Lord should (so) will. Our Lord comprehendeth all things in knowledge. In Allah do we put our trust. Our Lord! Decide with truth between us and our folk, for Thou art the best of those who make decision.

Sura Yousuf
[RIGHT]قَالَ لاَ يَأْتِيكُمَا طَعَامٌ تُرْزَقَانِهِ إِلاَّ نَبَّأْتُكُمَا بِتَأْوِيلِهِ قَبْلَ أَن يَأْتِيكُمَا ذَلِكُمَا مِمَّا عَلَّمَنِي رَبِّي إِنِّي تَرَكْتُ مِلَّةَ قَوْمٍ لاَّ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللّهِ وَهُم بِالآخِرَةِ هُمْ كَافِرُونَ {37[/RIGHT]
[Shakir 12:37] He said: There shall not come to you the food with which you are fed, but I will inform you both of its interpretation before it comes to you; this is of what my Lord has taught me; surely I have forsaken the religion of a people who do not believe in Allah, and they are deniers of the hereafter:
[Pickthal 12:37] He said: The food which ye are given (daily) shall not come unto you but I shall tell you the interpretation ere it cometh unto you. This is of that which my Lord hath taught me. Lo! I have forsaken the religion of folk who believe not in Allah and are disbelievers in the Hereafter.

[RIGHT]وَاتَّبَعْتُ مِلَّةَ آبَآئِـي إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَإِسْحَاقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ مَا كَانَ لَنَا أَن نُّشْرِكَ بِاللّهِ مِن شَيْءٍ ذَلِكَ مِن فَضْلِ اللّهِ عَلَيْنَا وَعَلَى النَّاسِ وَلَـكِنَّ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسِ لاَ يَشْكُرُونَ {38[/RIGHT]
[Shakir 12:38] And I follow the religion of my fathers, Ibrahim and Ishaq and Yaqoub; it beseems us not that we should associate aught with Allah; this is by Allah’s grace upon us and on mankind, but most people do not give thanks:
[Pickthal 12:38] And I have followed the religion of my fathers, Abraham and Isaac and Jacob. It never was for us to attribute aught as partner to Allah. This is of the bounty of Allah unto us (the seed of Abraham) and unto mankind; but most men give not thanks.

Similarly the word “Uswah” is used in:
Sura Al-Ahzaab
[RIGHT]لَقَدْ كَانَ لَكُمْ فِي رَسُولِ اللَّهِ أُسْوَةٌ حَسَنَةٌ لِّمَن كَانَ يَرْجُو اللَّهَ وَالْيَوْمَ الْآخِرَ وَذَكَرَ اللَّهَ كَثِيراً {21[/RIGHT]
[Shakir 33:21] Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent exemplar for him who hopes in Allah and the latter day and remembers Allah much.
[Pickthal 33:21] Verily in the messenger of Allah ye have a good example for him who looketh unto Allah and the Last Day, and remembereth Allah much.

Sura Al-Mumtahinna
[RIGHT]قَدْ كَانَتْ لَكُمْ أُسْوَةٌ حَسَنَةٌ فِي إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَالَّذِينَ مَعَهُ إِذْ قَالُوا لِقَوْمِهِمْ إِنَّا بُرَاء مِنكُمْ وَمِمَّا تَعْبُدُونَ مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ كَفَرْنَا بِكُمْ وَبَدَا بَيْنَنَا وَبَيْنَكُمُ الْعَدَاوَةُ وَالْبَغْضَاء أَبَدًا حَتَّى تُؤْمِنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَحْدَهُ إِلَّا قَوْلَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ لِأَبِيهِ لَأَسْتَغْفِرَنَّ لَكَ وَمَا أَمْلِكُ لَكَ مِنَ اللَّهِ مِن شَيْءٍ رَّبَّنَا عَلَيْكَ تَوَكَّلْنَا وَإِلَيْكَ أَنَبْنَا وَإِلَيْكَ الْمَصِيرُ {4}[/RIGHT]
[Shakir 60:4] Indeed, there is for you a good example in Ibrahim and those with him when they said to their people: Surely we are clear of you and of what you serve besides Allah; we declare ourselves to be clear of you, and enmity and hatred have appeared between us and you forever until you believe in Allah alone-- but not in what Ibrahim said to his father: I would certainly ask forgiveness for you, and I do not control for you aught from Allah-- Our Lord! on Thee do we rely, and to Thee do we turn, and to Thee is the eventual coming:
[Yusufali 60:4] There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: “We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone”: But not when Abraham said to his father: “I will pray for forgiveness for thee, though I have no power (to get) aught on thy behalf from Allah.” (They prayed): "Our Lord! in Thee do we trust, and to Thee do we turn in repentance: to Thee is (our) Final Goal.
[RIGHT]لَقَدْ كَانَ لَكُمْ فِيهِمْ أُسْوَةٌ حَسَنَةٌ لِمَن كَانَ يَرْجُو اللَّهَ وَالْيَوْمَ الْآخِرَ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الْغَنِيُّ الْحَمِيدُ {6}[/RIGHT]
[Shakir 60:5] Our Lord! do not make us a trial for those who disbelieve, and forgive us, our Lord! surely Thou art the Mighty, the Wise.
[Yusufali 60:5] “Our Lord! Make us not a (test and) trial for the Unbelievers, but forgive us, our Lord! for Thou art the Exalted in Might, the Wise.”

So all the above references show that the word Sunnat cannot be attributed to any one else except of Allah SWT and if someone uses this attribute to someone else then he considers that person compareable to Allah SWT, and it is ‘Shirk” according to Sura Ikhlaas.

Iltemase Dua

Re: Sunnat and 'Ahle-Sunnat'

DanishJu you must be feeling really proud of yourself that you have hit on something very great. You must have been really surprised that how come nobody thought about what you have written. How very genius of you!

But sorry to burst the bubble of your delusions of grandeur.

You have rightly translated the sunnat as “course of action” or “way of doing something”.

Quran mentions Sunnat of Allah but also repeatedly exhorts the Believers to follow the Prophet [Peace and blessings be upon him]. In other words to follow the Sunnat of the Prophet [Peace and blessings be upon him].

Do you agree to that or not?

I have quoted very few Qur’anic verses that stress the necessity of obeying the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) and following his guidance. And there are many more as you will agree.

**We sent not a messenger, but to be obeyed, in accordance with the will of Allah.* If they had only, when they were unjust to themselves, come unto thee and asked Allah's forgiveness, and the Messenger had asked forgiveness for them, they would have found Allah indeed Oft-returning, Most Merciful. *(An-Nisaa’: 64).

But no, by the Lord, they can have no (real) Faith, **until they make thee judge in all disputes between them, and find in their souls no resistance against Thy decisions, but accept them with the fullest conviction.** (An-Nisaa’: 65)

Say: "Obey Allah, **and obey the Messenger:* but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger's duty is only to preach the clear (Message). *(An-Nur: 54).

Say: "O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of Allah, to Whom belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth: there is no god but He: it is He That giveth both life and death. So believe in Allah **and His Messenger, **the Unlettered Prophet, who believeth in Allah and His words:* follow him that (so) ye may be guided.*" (Al-A`raf: 158).

  • “Say, (O Muhammad, to mankind): If ye love Allah, follow me; Allah will love you”* (Aal `Imran: 52).

Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah **a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one **whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah. (Aazhab:21)

Also the Prophet [Peace and blessings be upon him] has narrated in many hadiths authentic which give the same indication that it is necessary to obey the Prophet and that those who do not follow his footsteps place themselves at risk. [Believe me, there are many more hadith covering the same message]

Following are some of these hadiths:

Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) reported the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) as saying, “All my nation will enter Paradise except those who refuse.” *The Companions asked, *“Who dare to refuse, O Prophet?” The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) answered, “Whoever obeys me will enter Paradise;* and whoever disobeys me is showing refusal”* (Al-Bukhari).

Abu Musa reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “The similitude of mine and the message I have been sent with is that of a man who came to a people saying, ‘I have seen the enemies’ armies with my own eyes. I am just a warner, so run away.’ Thereupon some of his people obeyed and left the place and thus could survive. Whereas the rest disobeyed and stood still until the enemy came at them and slaughtered them all. The former (group) is like those who **obey me and follow my guidance, and the latter is like those who deny the truth and disobey me” (Al-Bukhari).

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is reported to have said, Stick to my Sunnah and the practice of the Rightly Guided Caliphs after me.* Adhere to it and stick firmly. Beware of innovation, for innovation (in matters of religion) is no more than heresy, which is a form of straying”* (Abu Dawud).

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “Whoever commits an act of heresy in matters of religion will have it rejected” (Al-Bukhari and Muslim)

`A’ishah said, “Once the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) did something and gave concession regarding it. Then some people did not resort to the concession (and went to extremes). When the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) was informed of that, he delivered a sermon in which he praised Allah and said, ‘What about those people who keep aloof from things I* myself do*! **By Allah! I am the most knowledgeable and Allah-fearing among them.’

The Prophet (saw) gave the advice: "I have left you upon clear proof, its night is like its day, no one deviates from it except that he is destroyed, and whoever amongst you lives for long will see great controversy. So stick to what you know from my Sunnah and the Sunnah of the Rightly-guided Caliphs, cling to that with your molar teeth." Reported by Ahmad (4/126), Ibn Maajah (no.43), al-Haakim (1/96) and others by way of Abdur-Rahmaan bin Amr as-Sulaamee and the hadeeth is Hasan.

So my dear friend, just to let you know that "'Ahle-Sunnat" [Sunnis] Worhip Allah (swt) and follow the Sunnat “course of action” or “way of doing something”of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him). Nothing more and nothing less.

Be assured nobody can or is trying to follow the Sunnat of Allah (swt) which you may be trying to imply.

Re: Sunnat and 'Ahle-Sunnat'

Salam!

1) Kiya kamaal kaa musawir hay Shahid , kiya khoobsoorat fun takhleek kartaa hay
2) kiya takhleqii salheyatey hay Amir may , wah baye wah kamal kar diya
3) Woh tu shukar hay kya kutaa bhonkaa or woh log bhaag gaye or may bach gayaa , agar kuta na hutaa to pataa nahee mera kiya hotaa
4)Ye tu shukar hay kay may nay ghar pay paraa warnaa may to fail ho jataa exam may
5) Agar nokree na miltee to may or meree family mar jatee kasmapursee kee halat may.......
6) etc
7) etc

Sub kiya hay ....................
agar shirk to hum daily kartay hay or hum sub mushrik hay............. or agar majazee or namukamal manay may hay to phir koiee gunaa nahee.............

Allah (SWT) khaliq hay may bee tu hoo
Allah (swt) musawir hay may bee tu hoo
Allah dainay wallah hay may bee to hoo
etc, etc, etc

Agar yeh shirk hay tu hum sub mushrik hay ....... or agar majazee or namumkamal manay may hay tu phir teekh hay.........

So please guftagoo ko meray Bhai naram rakho or zindaghee ko asaan...........

Wasalam

Re: Sunnat and 'Ahle-Sunnat'

Salamun Alaikum
to Ibne Sadique:....
Dear I didnt say at all that To Follow the path of Hazrat Mohammad SAWAW is wrong. What I am trying to convey to you is that the word 'Sunnat' is a specific term which Allah SWT has used for himself only. So do not tell Sunnat-e-rasool or Sunnat-e-Muhammad SAWAW but say either uswa-e-Rasool or Millat-e-Rasool. As it is stated in Quraan
'Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent exemplar for him who hopes in Allah and the latter day and remembers Allah much.'
In above ayat the words 'Uswatun hasana' has been used.
or as in sura Nisa Ayat 125 Allah says:
And who has a better religion than he who submits himself entirely to Allah? And he is the doer of good (to others) and follows the faith of Ibrahim, the upright one, and Allah took Ibrahim as a friend.
here the words are used 'wat tabe millata Ibrahima Hanifa''

So try to use those terms which Allah SWT has permitted you to use.

Iltemase Dua

Re: Sunnat and 'Ahle-Sunnat'

Salaams** DanishJu**

I think you are missing the point. In Quran, Allah (swt) has used the word Sunnat for His ways of 'doing things'.

And Allah (swt) has numerous times exhorted the believers to follow the examples set by the Prophet (saw) in living our daily lives.

Now, ** DanishJu** you must understand that Prophet (saw) has himself used the word 'Sunnat' and exhorted Muslims to follow his Sunnat.

Read the Last Sermon to the Prophet (saw) on Mount Arafat and note that he has reminded us all to follow his Sunnah

Do you have any objection why the Prophet (saw) has used the word Sunnat for himself. If you can answer that you will get your answer.

Prophet Muhammad's Last Sermon

*This sermon was delivered on the Ninth day of Dhul al Hijjah 10 A.H. in the 'Uranah valley of Mount Arafat. *

After praising, and thanking God, he said:

*"O People, listen well to my words, for I do not know whether, after this year, I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefore listen to what I am saying to you very carefully and take these words to those who could not be present today.
O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as Sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Treat others justly so that no one would be unjust to you.

Remember that you will indeed meet your LORD, and that HE will indeed reckon your deeds. God has forbidden you to take usury (riba), therefore all riba obligation shall henceforth be waived. Your capital , however, is yours to keep. You will neither inflict nor suffer inequity. God has judged that there shall be no riba and that all the riba due to Abbas ibnAbd al Muttalib shall henceforth be waived.

Every right arising out of homicide in pre-Islamic days is henceforth waived and the first such right that I waive is that arising from the murder of Rabiah ibn al Harith ibnAbd al Muttalib.

O Men, the Unbelievers indulge in tampering with the calendar in order to make permissible that which God forbade, and to forbid that which God has made permissible. With God the months are twelve in number. Four of them are sacred, three of these are successive and one occurs singly between the months of Jumada and Sha`ban. Beware of the devil, for the safety of your religion. He has lost all hope that he will ever be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware of following him in small things.

O People, it is true that you have certain rights over your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under God's trust and with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Treat your women well and be kind to them, for they are your partners and committed helpers. It is your right and they do not make friends with anyone of whom you do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste...

O People, listen to me in earnest, worship God (The One Creator of the Universe), perform your five daily prayers (Salah), fast during the month of Ramadan, and give your financial obligation (zakah) of your wealth. Perform Hajj if you can afford to.

All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black nor does a black have any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.

Remember, one day you will appear before God (The Creator) and you will answer for your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.

O People, no prophet or messenger will come after me and no new faith will be born. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand words which I convey to you. I am leaving you with the Book of God (the Quraan) and my Sunnah (the life style and the behavioural mode of the Prophet), if you follow them you will never go astray.

All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me directly. Be my witness O God, that I have conveyed your message to your people.*


And just to make a point, the five Pillars of Faith are derived from the above Sermon.

The Five Pillars of Faith

1 Shahada (affirmation) ** - The duty to recite the creed: "There is nothing worthy of worship save Allah, and Muhammad is the Messenger of God"
2 *Salat (prayer) * - The duty to worship the One God in prayer five times each day
3 **Zakat (almsgiving)
- The duty to distribute alms and to help the needy
4 *Siyam (fasting) * - The duty to keep the Fast of Ramadan
5 *Hajj (pilgrimage) * - The duty to make the pilgrimage to Mecca at least once in a lifetime

The above is also backed up by the following hadith:

Narrated Ibn 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said: Islam is based on (the following) five (principles):

  1. To testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and Muhammad is Allah's Apostle.
  2. To offer the (compulsory congregational) prayers dutifully and perfectly.
  3. To pay Zakat (i.e. obligatory charity) .
  4. To perform Hajj. (i.e. Pilgrimage to Mecca)
  5. To observe fast during the month of Ramadan. - Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 2, Number 7

So in short 'Ahle Sunnat' implies for those will follow the 'ways of the Prophet' (saw).

Re: Sunnat and 'Ahle-Sunnat'

Salamun alaikum

You qoute the hadith in these words but a lot of schollars including your shia brothers say that Prophet SAWAW has said that "* O People, no prophet or messenger will come after me and no new faith will be born. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand words which I convey to you. I am leaving you with the Book of God (the Quraan) and my Itrat (Ofsprings of the Prophet), if you follow them you will never go astray. " Even I have recently heard renouned speaker Dr. Tahirul Qadri on a TV speach last week quoting this hadith exactly in the above words

So there can be a lot of debate. The hadith I may present may be not accaptable to you and similarly the Rivayat you may quote may not be accaptable to me. So there is atleast one thing common between all the muslims and it is Quraan. Look into it and try to understand what Quraan is saying. It definitely not means that I deny the importance of Hadith but the source of hadith can be disputable between one school of thought to others.

So what I am trying to say that keep open your mindset and analyze the scriptures in the light of Holy Quraan.

Iltemase Dua
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Re: Sunnat and 'Ahle-Sunnat'

here is another use of the word SUNNAH in the Quran....

Quran 15:12-13
*Thus do We make it traverse the hearts of the guilty
They believe not therein, though the SUNNAH of the men of old hath gone before. *

Re: Sunnat and 'Ahle-Sunnat'

very nice replies by and proofs by Ibne Sadique and arm mugal....and regarding danishJu speakinof ahadees...there are two ahadees..one with your wordings about ahle-bait and one with sunnah...but even then it does not mean that ahle-biats and sunnah were two opposites thngs..ali(ra) , fatima(ra) ,hassan(ra) and hussain(ra) did everything what prophet(pbuh) did and also these all things did by all great sahabas...but sorry to say now the "lovers" of ahle-bait do all things in the "love" of ahle-bait...they have nothing to do with ahle-baits ...sunnah or great sahabas deeds...they are totally different ....

Re: Sunnat and 'Ahle-Sunnat'

Salamun Alaikum

This is not the only one but there are two more ayaat have hsed the same word.
8:38 Say to the Unbelievers, if (now) they desist (from Unbelief), their past would be forgiven them; but if they persist, the punishment of those before them is already (a matter of warning for them).

18:55 And what is there to keep back men from believing, now that Guidance has come to them, nor from praying for forgiveness from their Lord, but that (they ask that) the ways of the ancients be repeated with them, or the Wrath be brought to them face to face?

But in all the above ayaat Allah has used this word as "Ta`ana", like Alah has used the word 'ilaah' for false gods of disbelivers. So as you cannot term someone or something as 'Ilaah' except to Allah SWT similarly you cannot use the word 'Sunnat' for Other than Allah SWT.

And it is not only the Ahle-sunnat people who are using this word at the wrong place but all the sacts of the Muslims are making the same mistake. so I am not directly pointing Sunni brothers but I am talking in general.

I hope you may understand my point.

Iltemase Dua

Re: Sunnat and 'Ahle-Sunnat'

So are you claiming that you as minority of one have just discovered the truth or can you back it up with statement of any prominent scholar of present time or time gone by????

Re: Sunnat and 'Ahle-Sunnat'

no, i dont see ur point....
its just a vague discussion....

the word sunnah was not invented for use in Quran, it was there in the Arabic language even before Quran and it was never a reserved word.....