I know that suicide is haram. However, what if it is a socially accepted/encouraged practice? It’s no secret that in Pakistan, and perhaps other ISlamic countries as well, rape victims are “encouraged” to commit suicide. After reading maybe the hundredth news story in Culture forum about the girl who threatened to set herself on fire, I began to wonder how this ties in to religion as well… Allah :swt: is very merciful and forgiving and I know that every sin can be forgiven except for shirk.
Can suicide ever be forgiven? It’s very easy to say, “suicide isn’t an option, u can try to get justice, this is a test that ur going through, however hard it is, just have faith” etc etc. But for someone who is depressed and has reached their last rope, that’s not possible. I dunno y im thinking about it…It just seems unfair to me that first a girl has to go through one of the worst things in life, being raped and beaten, and then being punished by people who think SHE’S the adulterer becoz her word isn’t enough, and then she’s not even allowd to live long enough coz she has to commit suicide to rid herself and her family of the shame SHE’S brought upon them by being unlucky enough to have this done to her… What a horrible life, and then if she commits suicide, she’s committing one of the biggest sins against Allah… Damn this just depresses me…
Suicide is haram, so is rape. Problem with our society is related to honor being tied to their stupid male .... ego. State has to exercize their responsibility to protect its citizens and punsih those guilty of violating its basic tenets. It is because the state has failed to protect the basic rights of its citizens that these crazy fundos with their narrow minded vision of life have tried to bring order to society, their vision.
Why does God only test the weak? Why not the rich and powerful? I Dont buy that argument, its the common sugar coated excuse presented for the masses. Society has to do a better job in protecting the poor, women and children.
Sara -- The truth is that the final decision rests with the individual. Yeah it might be encouraged, but its all bs to actually let such people have a say in anyones life. We will always meet twisted people in life. But no matter how much they encourage it, its still in the end - up to the individual.
It might be tough living around such people, but Allah rewards those who believe in Him especially when the going gets tough.
geekk is right. Allah tests us only to the extent to which we can handle it.
MQ, i understand that its all up to the individual.... however, in a culture/society that values obedience to parents, and the good of the family/community over the personal happiness of hte individual, isn't saying that it's up to the individual what they will do with their life, when all thier life they've been conditioned to do what everyone else says wrong (for lack of a better word)?
Sara every one of us is encouraged or even forced to follow some type of a "norm". It would be an insult to an individual if he/she did not think about his/her own life. In fact it would be an insult if one thought the cultural/societal norm was "the way" of how things should be done.
Thats why we have our own minds to make our own decisions. Its not that we cant, we can always make a choice. But succumbing to such pressures is pure idiocy. I know it is hard, but life is worth fighting for. If a person wont fight for his/her own life, well than I refuse to sit here and pity them.
Right... but if ur life is a living hell wud u feel it was worth living? The worst thign taht can happen to you has happened, and everything around you is telling you to forget about it or kill yourself..ur family, the ones who are supposed to protect you, wud rather u be dead coz of hte shame u brought upon them.... the society and culture and its laws telling you that it's your fault for being raped and you deserve it for being in teh wrong time/wrong place/wrong gender...I'm not advocating suicide here, but sometimes the stories u hear bout girls there... they mite be better off dead because as far as I know, there is still a chance for them to be forgiven and they mite get a chance in Heaven instead of living their Hell on earth....
^ if i was in that situation i would try to run away and parents/relatives like that dont deserve to be listened to, i wouldnt kill myself just to make them mad.
has No Imaan - the beleif - so does not believe in the commands of ALLAH:swt: and disobey HIM by commiting suicide.
is confused about his/her role in this world and confused about the reason for which ALLAH:swt: has created everyone.
does not believe in Quran when Quran clearly tells that ALLAH:swt: does not put a burdon on someone that one can not bear.
Only true faith stops a person to commit suicide and only blind faith for that matter makes a person to realize the blessing of the LORD disguised in the hardships of life.
I am not suicidal, and what did you say that offended me??