Suicide squads trained in Pakistan to hit Afghan targets

The ties run deep between the Taliban and ISI. Advantages of having military men decide our fate and policy.

Btu what do I know? I’m just a civllian. I don’t have the brains of a military man to think right, that is why I need generals to rule me and the country.

Suicide squads trained in Pakistan to hit Afghan targets
Thu Dec 12, 9:21 PM ET

By KATHY GANNON, Associated Press Writer

PESHAWAR, Pakistan - Suicide squads are being trained in Pakistan by al-Qaida operatives to hit targets in Afghanistan (news - web sites) and the bombers’ families are being promised US$50,000, say Afghan and Pakistani sources.

The Pakistani government denies the presence of camps here. “Nobody will ever be able to either hide here or establish training camps in Pakistan,” said Interior Ministry spokesman Iftikar Ahmed.

But privately, some officials in Pakistan’s intelligence community and Interior Ministry say they believe there is such bomb training and that it is protected by Pakistani militants and Taliban sympathizers in the Pakistan military.

The nephew of Maulvi Abdul Kabir, the Taliban’s No. 3 man, says the training camps are in Bajour and Mansehra, towns in Pakistan’s North West Frontier Province where support for the former Afghan regime runs strong.

The nephew asked that his name not be used, saying he feared retaliation from both the Taliban and Pakistanis. He said he agreed to an exclusive interview with The Associated Press on Tuesday because he believes suicide bombing is wrong. He also seemed interested in getting U.S. attention and possibly a reward.

There is a US$10 million reward for Mullah Mohammed Omar, the deposed Taliban leader, but not for most other Taliban officials. The nephew said he has not talked to any U.S. official, and would not approach the Pakistanis because he suspects they are in league with the Taliban.

Kabir’s nephew had a video taken at a graduation ceremony in the southwestern Pakistan city of Quetta where Kabir and several top Taliban leaders, including former intelligence officials and governors, were present and some spoke. He also had an audio cassette from speeches given at a mosque in Quetta in which Kabir spoke on behalf of Mullah Omar, condemning the U.S. presence in Afghanistan and calling on the faithful to wage a holy war against the Americans.

During two weeks of training, would-be bombers are told by Arab instructors that they are waging war on the Jews and “will be martyrs and go straight to heaven and their family will get (US)$50,000,” Kabir’s nephew said.

They are trained in small groups and not all are told they must die, he said. Some are taught to detonate bombs by remote control, and to drive explosives-laden trucks into Afghanistan, he said.

So far two Afghans and one suspected al-Qaida operative trained at these camps have infiltrated Afghanistan but have been arrested, the nephew said. He did not know whether these were the same people whose arrest was announced by Afghan authorities two months ago after they came from Pakistan in a car packed with explosives.

The nephew said one of the men arrested was an Iraqi. Last month, an Iraqi man was arrested in Kabul, the Afghan capital, but the nephew couldn’t say whether he was among those trained in Bajour, a tribal region bordering Afghanistan’s northeastern province of Kunar.

U.S. forces are scouring the mountains that crisscross Afghanistan’s Kunar province searching for Taliban and al-Qaida operatives, and for Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, an Iranian-backed rebel commander.

A Western intelligence source in Pakistan also said training was going on in Bajour and in Mansehra area. He said there had been reports that Hekmatyar loyalists had purchased several vehicles for the purpose of carrying explosives. Afghan, Pakistani and Western sources say Kabir has forged an alliance with Hekmatyar, who is also being sought by the United States.

The AP also acquired books written in both Pashtu and Persian extolling the virtue of carrying out suicide attacks. It cited verses from the Islamic holy book, the Quran, to support suicide attacks. Most Muslim scholars, however, say suicide is against Islamic teachings.

Reports of trained suicide squads surfaced last September when one of Hekmatyar’s military commanders, Salauddin Safi, told AP that some Taliban had formed an alliance with Hekmatyar’s followers, a view shared by Western intelligence sources, who believe Kabir is working with Hekmatyar.

With money from al-Qaida and Iran, the two groups formed a new alliance called Lashkar Fedayan-e-Islami, or the Islamic Martyrs Brigade, which Safi said would target U.S. military installations.

In a separate interview, a man who served in the Cabinet of former Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif said Pakistan’s army protects the Taliban.

“They have even given them their jeeps to get around safely. Why do you think none of the top Taliban who came to Pakistan have been arrested?” he said.

The nephew said Kabir is protected by Pakistan’s intelligence and its military. He travels freely throughout Pakistan, from its deeply Islamic tribal regions to the southwestern city of Quetta and to Haripur, a city 35 miles north of Pakistan’s capital, Islamabad.

His entourage includes former Taliban governors, intelligence chiefs and, in recent weeks, Maulvi Ghazi, special adviser to Mullah Omar, the nephew said. Omar is high on the U.S. wanted list.

With the October election that gave religious hard-liners control of the strategic provinces that border Afghanistan, fugitive Taliban have become increasingly brazen, even launching fund-raising campaigns.

During the three-day Muslim festival of Eid al-Fitr that ended last weekend, US$50,000 was raised by former Taliban Maulvi Baram, the nephew said.

The Taliban even issue receipts, which say the money is for the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, as the Taliban called the country.

Imdad Ali: I hate to tell you that you are 10 years late in finding this out…rest of the world already knows :rolleyes:

This letter to the editor in The Nation shows what the world knows already :-
http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/131202/editor/let1.htm
It is time you stop writing editorials. Editorials should be learned and unbiased. Both qualities are missing from yours. I realized this by reading your editorial ‘Relation without substance.’ The US relation with Pakistan is only for eliminating terrorism across the world.
Pakistan or Pakistanis are involved in every terrorist act from Paris to Kenya to Kashmir to Italy. The US is cleverly eliminating terrorism by asking its creator to finish it. Even after having been provided conclusive evidence of crossborder terrorism you harp on the same tune. This evidence was provided by Americans when they were operating on the Afghan border, and was GPS-based.
If you have any doubt then read Bush At War. You will learn how Pakistan started helping US in the war on terrorism. It was under threat, and for some economic aid. If left to itself, it would have continued to help Taliban as it did for last decade. Terrorism is a part of state policy in Pakistan, which is followed by military rulers to keep themselves in power. Why do you think all the world is telling Pakistan to stop terrorism?-

Dhir, is HEMANT KABDWAL (the writer of the above letter) your pen name :)

Has anything come put of Yashwant Sinha's recent begging to the US about naming Pakistan as a terrorist state :)

Please concentrate on eliminating the anti-Muslim terrorism in Gujarat, where it it looks as though the Muslim Burning Hindus are favorites to come back to power.

i think it's just a matter of time now before all these suicide bombers and trained terrorizers begin cleansing and purification operations within pakistan itself. as they say, what goes around comes around.

When Isreali forces can be trained in USA for the same purpose then what the big deal about Squad being trained in Pakistan

How does that matter whether Dhir and Hemant are one and the same. the point made is more important. And the strange thing is it get passed the sleeping editor of The Nation. BTW here is another one which sneeked through the eyes of the editor :
http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/121202/editor/let6.htm
Really, you are so ‘morally right’ , such ‘pristine, selfless’ emotions over Kashmir, and still the world does not agree with you. Even the Islamic countries often favour India over Pakistan. Iraq wants India on the UN inspection team. Arafat thanks India for its support. What a cruel, cruel, heartless world!
Your President does whatever the US President tells him to do, and yet the USA has friendlier relations with India, based on mutual self-respect, while there is so little respect for Pakistan the world over.

And our EAM was not begging he was pointing out to the US admin. what there press has been doing for long now and which slowly but surely getting registered in their minds too.

U r 100% right. trainers are more important to be eliminated than the trainees. And US is right in the middle of the fountainhead. People have now started to know. e.g.,:
http://www.sunspot.net/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.pakistan13dec13,0,1681208.story?coll=bal-oped-headlines
The killings of 10 Hindu worshippers and two policemen in Kashmir on Nov. 24 make it clear that Pakistan has done little to stem the flow of terrorists into India. With a hawkish party in opposition and pro-Taliban governments in two regional assemblies, this task will prove even more difficult.

**The Bush administration must ensure that pressure is kept up on General Musharraf to rein in Islamic militants operating out of Pakistan. This is the only way to bring peace and stability to the region **and avoid a deadly clash between Pakistan and India, its nuclear rival.

I Just don't get it - how do seemingly healthy people still fall for this suicide squad duty? what are they serving - their country? no, PLO Hamas proved otherwise at great cost. Do they serve their religion? no, because the crook and the victim both are mostly of same faith. do they serve themselves in some way? No, i can't see any upside in their exploded to smithereen state. Why do they do it? Kashmir is just an excuse. Is living that bad?

And on top of that if ISI is still doing this sort of thing, it is quite disappointing

Afghan warlord to aid al Qaeda
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20021226-15353155.htm

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — An Afghan rebel leader yesterday said that his forces have allied with Taliban and al Qaeda fugitives, and that a **“holy war” would be stepped up to target international forces and peacekeepers.

“We are together” with the fugitive fighters, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar said in a Pashto-language message distributed in Pakistan **by his followers.

**…Afghan and Pakistani sources said two weeks ago that suicide squads were being trained in neighboring Pakistan. **

The nephew of Abdul Kabir, once the No. 3 man in the Taliban, said the training camps were in Pakistan’s Bajour region, bordering Kunar province, and in the Mansehra area, also in the deeply conservative North West Frontier Province.

"There will be more attacks, not just in Afghanistan, but here. In the tribal regions there has been a lot of buying of weapons in recent months," Mr. Kabir’s nephew said.

In the tribal belt, owners of several arms shops who did not want their names used said large quantities of Kalashnikov rifles and grenades have been bought in recent months by Afghans and Pakistanis.

so tell me again.. how do you ‘train’ suicide squads?? :confused:

how do they work out the ranks?? no promotions on a successful mission??

:rotfl:

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By religiously motivating them that their fight is for the cause of God.

**how do they work out the ranks?? no promotions on a successful mission?? **

The promotion is a place in the heavens above.