Why no body bother to discuss this, a truly shocking news in yesterday dawn.
Suicide bombers available
Source: Suicide bombers available -DAWN - Top Stories; December 24, 2008
LAHORE, Dec 23: A suicide bomber can also be bought to settle personal scores, says the police investigation into the Bhakkar blast which left over two dozen people dead in August.
According to Crimes Investigation wing of the police, Waqas Hussain and his four accomplices had hired a suicide bomber and explosives expert from Wana to kill a former friend of his with whom he had a monetary dispute.
In Bolta Pakistan they discuss how they (militants/kafir/terrorists) manipulate & brain wash and then sold for few lacks. 24 December 2008 - Bolta Pakistan ( Please watch after 27 minutes)
I was discussing this news with some family members on christmas eve party.. every one agreed if this report is true they will probably support rest of the world joint action in tribal areas + settled areas in Pakistan. C'mon people its a proven fact now their are suicide bombers makers factories in tribal areas where religious motivated people are brainwashed + given drugs to carry out their twisted on the name of Islam suicide attacks. What we want further? a suicider on gupshup blown up half of PA forums? Time to make a choice for everyone either support extreme or taliban or al-qaeda or uneducated mullah Islam or moderate or enlighten or educated mullah Islam.
I was discussing this news with some family members on christmas eve party.. every one agreed if this report is true they will probably support rest of the world joint action in tribal areas + settled areas in Pakistan. C'mon people its a proven fact now their are suicide bombers makers factories in tribal areas where religious motivated people are brainwashed + given drugs to carry out their twisted on the name of Islam suicide attacks. What we want further? a suicider on gupshup blown up half of PA forums? Time to make a choice for everyone either support extreme or taliban or al-qaeda or uneducated mullah Islam or moderate or enlighten or educated mullah Islam.
Speculation and nothing else..
Unless you've witnessed it yourself, please stop sensationalizing and exaggerating stuff.
Islam is Islam. Period. Either you follow it or you don't. Those who don't follow it may very well be hypocrits i.e. Munafiqoon no matter their lifestyle moderate or extremist.
Speculation and nothing else..
Unless you've witnessed it yourself, please stop sensationalizing and exaggerating stuff.
Islam is Islam. Period. Either you follow it or you don't. Those who don't follow it may very well be hypocrits i.e. Munafiqoon no matter their lifestyle moderate or extremist.
What you want me to witnessed the videos which shows chopping off human heads by saying "Allah o Akhar" or pieces of people aftermath of suicide attack?
Islam is Islam, but whom those retarded/scum of earth Islam in Afghanistan/tribal belt ? Who can do whatever on the name of Islam ? who don't allow women to go to schools? their Islam when they capture Pak Army solider they chop their head their Islam? Please care to elaborate on it.
if chopping off heads, extremism, blowing off girls schools, medical depictions, we-are-right-attitude is Islam. Then sure accept it, but civilized world which is not living with camels & in caves are going to take them out like rats in a hole.
If all is propaganda why you even care to came out from cave world? this forum, tv, radio,newspaper everything is Zionism propaganda right?
What you want me to witnessed the videos which shows chopping off human heads by saying "Allah o Akhar" or pieces of people aftermath of suicide attack?
Islam is Islam, but whom those retarded/scum of earth Islam in Afghanistan/tribal belt ? Who can do whatever on the name of Islam ? who don't allow women to go to schools? their Islam when they capture Pak Army solider they chop their head their Islam? Please care to elaborate on it.
if chopping off heads, extremism, blowing off girls schools, medical depictions, we-are-right-attitude is Islam. Then sure accept it, but civilized world which is not living with camels & in caves are going to take them out like rats in a hole.
If all is propaganda why you even care to came out from cave world? this forum, tv, radio,newspaper everything is Zionism propaganda right?
I think you read a little too much into what i said. Relax and getting all hot n hyper won't achieve anything.
Logic my friend! I never mentioned anything about this bring propaganda or what-not. You brought it all up out of thin air w/out me saying it. Learn to chill and tolerate others point of view.
Islam is the middle way. It's neither extreme, nor moderate to the point where it becomes okay to skip a few articles of Islam in the name of "moderate enlightenment". What the Taliban and others do is wrong. Terrorism is not the way of islam, but neither is ultra-moderate. Learn to criticize both. It's very easy to pick up fancy punchline and terminology that's tossed around by talk show pundit and "analysts" who have never set a foot in the land they preach about.
Your initial article is shocking and sad at the same time. That is not Islam. But don't throw a tantrum and become the left-extreme which casts its shadow and judges others who are not like it. Tolerance!!!
I think you read a little too much into what i said. Relax and getting all hot n hyper won't achieve anything.
Logic my friend! I never mentioned anything about this bring propaganda or what-not. You brought it all up out of thin air w/out me saying it. Learn to chill and tolerate others point of view.
*Islam is the middle way. It's neither extreme, nor moderate to the point where it becomes okay to skip a few articles of Islam in the name of "moderate enlightenment". What the Taliban and others do is wrong. Terrorism is not the way of islam, but neither is ultra-moderate. Learn to criticize both. It's very easy to pick up fancy punchline and terminology that's tossed around by talk show pundit and "analysts" who have never set a foot in the land they preach about. *
Your initial article is shocking and sad at the same time. That is not Islam. But don't throw a tantrum and become the left-extreme which casts its shadow and judges others who are not like it. Tolerance!!!
Bro, i was just answering your questions, no hyperism is here.
Please elaborate how ulta-moderate + skipping articles in the name of moderate enlightenment came into discussion and what they are referring too. Sorry for sturdiness !
I was discussing this news with some family members on christmas eve party.. every one agreed if this report is true they will probably support rest of the world joint action in tribal areas + settled areas in Pakistan. C'mon people its a proven fact now their are suicide bombers makers factories in tribal areas where religious motivated people are brainwashed + given drugs to carry out their twisted on the name of Islam suicide attacks. What we want further? a suicider on gupshup blown up half of PA forums? Time to make a choice for everyone either support extreme or taliban or al-qaeda or uneducated mullah Islam or moderate or enlighten or educated mullah Islam.
That will not solve the problem, actually it will only provide fuel to the fire. Have you not witnessed what has been happening so far in those areas? The more drones they send more 'hatred' is generated, more people join the anti-govt forces.
That will not solve the problem, actually it will only provide fuel to the fire. Have you not witnessed what has been happening so far in those areas? The more drones they send more 'hatred' is generated, more people join the anti-govt forces.
so you are saying let the government not do anything? if a government gives up maintaining law and order it loses its sovereignty. then may be you are accepting that Pakistan be broken up into Punjab and Baluch etc
That will not solve the problem, actually it will only provide fuel to the fire. Have you not witnessed what has been happening so far in those areas? The more drones they send more 'hatred' is generated, more people join the anti-govt forces.
Yaar you are also right, but the problem is here extremists ideologies are keep growing now they are even penetrating settled areas of Pakistan. What to do? Accept Waizerstaan of Islamic Emirate as separate state ? let them live so they let us live? If this is solution then i will support military operations until every single one of is dead with their idealogy. Don't forget we created them now we can't control them !
so you are saying let the government not do anything? if a government gives up maintaining law and order it loses its sovereignty. then may be you are accepting that Pakistan be broken up into Punjab and Baluch etc
Read my post again and see if that is what I said.
Yaar you are also right, but the problem is here extremists ideologies are keep growing now they are even penetrating settled areas of Pakistan. What to do? Accept Waizerstaan of Islamic Emirate as separate state ? let them live so they let us live? If this is solution then i will support military operations until every single one of is dead with their idealogy. Don't forget we created them now we can't control them !
This requires action by Pakistani government, not foreign governments/armies. If Pakistani government takes action ONLY then this problem can be solved. If foreign govts/armies take action then it will only add fuel to the fire. It is responsibility of our government to enforce its writ, enforce law everywhere.
Read my post again and see if that is what I said.
This requires action by Pakistani government, not foreign governments/armies. If Pakistani government takes action ONLY then this problem can be solved. If foreign govts/armies take action then it will only add fuel to the fire. It is responsibility of our government to enforce its writ, enforce law everywhere.
ok I read it again. You're saying not to send drones in but not what they should be doing if anything.
People who never do anything always find it easy to find fault with people who do something.
ok I read it again. You're saying not to send drones in but not what they should be doing if anything.
People who never do anything always find it easy to find fault with people who do something.
Here is what I said in post above:
This requires action by Pakistani government, not foreign governments/armies. If Pakistani government takes action ONLY then this problem can be solved. If foreign govts/armies take action then it will only add fuel to the fire. It is responsibility of our government to enforce its writ, enforce law everywhere.
Remember, "foreign forces" always fuel hate. What happened in Iraq? They toppled supposedly a killer "government" but people still fought "foreign army", there are many many more examples. Foreign army cannot solve our problem, this is OUR problem and WE need to fix it.
I have no problem with that. Pakistan govt should snd in the drones or whatever to get rid o fthe terrorist camps and not depend upon on foreign forces to do that. The problem is they have failed to do so !
