suicide bombers ahemm sorry freedom fighters

assalamoalikum :jhanda:

we all know how the suicide bombers have been under scrutiny as of late and how the western media is pointing its fingers at academies (madrasaz) who train the mujahedeen and send them abroad etc

how does one answer a non-muslim who points his/her finger at muslims and how we are radcial etc

for example given the latest issue regarding 2 british citizens going to israel and one carrying ut the attack successfuly and one failing to do so ho does one answer ppl who raise this isuue successfully.

i saw sheikh omar bakhri who was asked this ? by a skynews presenter and he handled it well i think i could answer myself coherently do that plz somebody tell me how to…

its a good think u corrected ur title to freedom fighters otherwise i would have :smash:

i think a better term to define them would be Palestinian martyr operations because they are showing resistance aganist their enemies,i think this is also agreed amongst most scholars, the reason that we do not define them as SB and do not view them as “radical muslims” or watever is because a person who blows themself up sacrifice their life for the survival of their brothers/sisters and Inshallah for a better future. if sum1 came to ur home took control and hurt-mild word compared to what the Israelis are doing(thats another story)- u and ur family, would u sit there and take it??? u would do evrything i n ur power to fight back and resist!

moreover such a person dies for their homeland and their holy sites.
those people who do not have arms are annihilated evry day!Their houses and factories are destroyed and their farms. They stand with their hands tied before the tanks and armored vehicles of their enemies.

This is the least they are doing-offering a sacrifice- because they dont have weapons and the sort. and because the palestinians do not have the military support of the whole world. why is so wrong if they are trying their best to DEFEND themselves., must they sit and wait for their doom?

A person who does this is considered by Ulama as a martyr especially as he sacrifices his life, not for a material gain, but for the sake of Allah.

ayesha behan i deliberately used the title sb then changed it to freedom fighters cos i don’t see the defenders of their land and dignity as suicdie bombers some ppl on gupistan don’t think i know the difference beween the 2 so i deliberately chose this title.

i’m all for them don’t worry islam zindabad, kufaar + zionists murdabad :dhimpak:

suicide bombers who committed the act in hotels (killing civillians), in schools (killing children) or in public places (killing civillians) will always be considered wrong in my opinion....

instead of martyrdom, i see for them hellfire as punishment for killing unarmed men/women/children....

even during a war, muslims r instructed not to kill any person who lays down his arms, so there is no way u can kill a civillian....

most of the suicide bombers r inspired by the feelings of revenge raging in their hearts due to the deaths of their family members....
so their efforts r not sincerely for the cause of Islam....

they can die fighting, and will be martyrs....

^agreed. Killing civilians is the worst thing any human can do.. Islam doesnt allow this BS.

ur wrong Insolent, its NOT freedom fighting

When the jews occupied muslim land in palestine they signed there own death certificates it become land of fire.

It cannot be suicide because suicide you just want to kill your self.

But in these operations they want to kill occupiers, I don't see a problem with that if they don't want to be killed then they should stop occupying land.

Also these so called innocent people are soldiers they serve in Israeli army because it is mandatory. If children killed that unfortunate but the israelis kill babies and children for fun so when the jewish children killed i dont blame no except the occupiers.

ak47 mashallah brotha’ to the point well said and :kaboom: Aishaaa1

if there not freedom fighters then what the hell would u describe them as??!!!

try not to use the phrase “suicide bombers”:mad:

^ Terrorists. Yeah..I think that works.

so wat do u call the israeli soldiers(zionists) who are driving the palestinians:( out of their own homes?:frusty:

^ Preemptive Defenders. Yeah..I think that works.

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^ Preemptive Defenders. Yeah..I think that works.
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double standards i'd say.

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double standards i'd say.
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No. Sick standards.

Salaam means peace, Islam means submission. Suicide is haraam. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT BEING MUSLIMS MEANS. Do you know what happens during suicide bombing? EVERYONE DIES, THERE ARE CASUALTIES, INNOCENT CASUALTIES.

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Salaam means peace, Islam means submission. Suicide is haraam. YOU DONT KNOW WHAT BEING MUSLIMS MEANS. Do you know what happens during suicide bombing? EVERYONE DIES, THERE ARE CASUALTIES, INNOCENT CASUALTIES.
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^-----Do You actually know what "being Muslims means"?

If the "so called Muslims" sit back and do nothing when Muslims in many parts of the world are oppressed. When these "so called Muslims" don't follow Islam (by doing nothing to help the Muslims) why do these "so called Muslims" criticize those who do all that they can to cause harm to their oppressors and to those who support their oppressors.

How can a person who himself doesn't know what "being a Muslim means" can accuse others for not knowing what Islam is and what it means by "being a Muslim".

Yes Islam means submission, submission to Allah swt, it doesn't mean submission to Western Media, or puppet scholars.

How can you ignore the beginning of the conflict?

I am not justifying any "collateral damage" here, at the same time I am not in a position to say that what the oppressed Muslims are doing in response to what is being done to them and their families, is "haram", they are doing whatever they can whether Islamic or unIslamic because the "so called Muslims" chose to ignore the teachings of Islam and stick on to "Salam means peace" and "Islam means submission, and therefore Muslims are not allowed to kill or fight", and that "killing is unIslamic."

In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful

002.190:** Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. **

002.216 : *Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not. *

002.217 : They ask thee concerning fighting in the Prohibited Month. Say:** "Fighting therein is a grave (offence); but graver is it in the sight of Allah to prevent access to the path of Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Mosque, and drive out its members." Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter. Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can. And if any of you Turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be companions of the Fire and will abide therein**

**004.075 : And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help!"

004.076 : Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan. **

i cant and wont encourage death, especially by Muslims, especially the death of innocent people

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here is a fatwa given by a scholar please have a read:

Dear brother in Islam, answering your question, the prominent Muslim scholar Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi states the following:

"No Muslim, be he in authority or not, is allowed to abandon any of the lands of Muslims. The land of the Islamic world is not the property of any president, prince, minister or group of people. It is not up to anyone therefore to relinquish it under any circumstances.

Conversely, it is the duty of individuals and groups to strive hard to liberate occupied territories or retrieve usurped land. The entire nation is jointly responsible for that and it is not up to the ruler or his subjects to choose to give up the land. If a particular generation lapses in idleness or is incapable of shouldering the responsibility, it has no right to force its idleness or incapacity on all the coming generations up till Judgement Day, by giving up what it has no right to. Therefore, we have issued a Fatwa indicating that it is unlawful for all homeless Palestinian refugees to accept damages in return for their lost land, even if they amount to billions. The land of Islam is not for sale; it is not to be relinquished, and no damages can possibly make up for its loss.

If this is the ruling concerning any ordinary piece of land in an Islamic state, what will be the case with the holy land of Jerusalem, the land of the first of the two Qiblahs and Al-Aqsa Mosque and the third most venerable city in Islam, after Makkah and Madinah? This land was the destination of Al-Isrâ' and the land from where Al-Mi`râj was launched. Nothing better explains its revered status than Allah's words, "Glory to (Allah) Who did take His servant for a journey by night from the sacred Mosque to the farthest Mosque, whose precincts We did bless, in order that We might show him some of Our Signs: for He is the One Who Heareth and Seeth (all things)." (Al-Isrâ': 1)

Therefore, Jerusalem has come to enjoy a special place in the heart of every Muslim in the entire Arab world. The occupation of Jerusalem moves his heart and pains him, out of love, keenness and jealousy over it as well as his concern about it. It is mainly on account of Jerusalem that the Palestinian cause comes first on Muslims' list of priorities. It is Jerusalem that Muslims fear for and are keen to preserve, defend and fight for. It is for the sake of Jerusalem that they willingly give their lives and all they hold dear. Jerusalem is the symbol of the cause of Palestine. It is the backbone and the very core of the problem. True are the words of the poet who once said,

Palestine is meaningless with no Aqsa or Jerusalem.
Without Jerusalem, it is like a body with no head.

Jerusalem is not for the Palestinians only, but for all Muslims, be they Arabs or not. It is a city for all Arabs, be they Muslims or Christians. Therefore it is incumbent on Muslims, wherever they may be, to shoulder their responsibility of defending Jerusalem and Al-Aqsa Mosque. This is an obligation for them all. They are to jointly defend it, offering in the process their lives, their money and all they possess, or else they will be subject to Allah's punishment, for Allah says: "O ye who believe what is the matter with you, that when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter." (Al-Tawbah: 38)

During my tours across the Arab world, many a time have I been asked by Muslim youth who would hide their heads in their hands and fervently crying, would ask, “How do we clear our conscience and shoulder the responsibility of defending Jerusalem?”

We have seen how the Arab world in its entirety was turned upside down when a Jewish fanatic attempted to burn Al-Aqsa Mosque in 1969. Muslims called on each other across the world. The first Islamic Summit was held, which in turn gave rise to the Islamic Conference Organization.

When the crusaders formerly occupied Jerusalem, it was liberated by non-Arab Muslims, like Turkish Emâd Ed-Din Zinky and his son Nour Ed-Din Mahmoud Eshahîd as well as his disciple, Kurdish Saladin Al-Ayoubi, who was able to regain Jerusalem from Christians. Muslims everywhere are still, as they have always been, ready to do all what they can in defence of Jerusalem. This is the case with all the nations I have visited, starting with the Philippines and Indonesia in the very East through Morocco in the Muslim West, though unfortunately this was not the temperament of Muslim rulers.

Jerusalem is an invaluable part of the homeland of Islam. For more than 14 centuries, Muslims have lived there. They have not usurped it from the Jews who had already ceased to live there hundreds of years before that. The Jews’ longest reign in Palestine lasted for only several hundred years, while Arabs and others have been there for thousands of years. The Christian patriarch of Jerusalem handed it to Umar Ibn Al Khattâb. AmongUmar's conditions was that no Jew should live there.

The sovereignty over Jerusalem, particularly East Jerusalem, must be Islamic, Arab, and Palestinian. This will not prevent any Jew or Christian from observing his religious rituals with the perfect freedom and tolerance which Islam has been famous for throughout the eras. The international legitimacy embodied in the Security Council resolutions assert that Jerusalem is part of the Arab lands occupied since 1967.

Hence, evidence based on history, religion and international law all jointly prove that Jerusalem belongs to the Palestinians. The crisis of Jerusalem should be the number one item on the agenda of the Islamic World. ."And Allah hath full power and control over His affairs; but most among mankind know it not." (Yûsûf: 21)"

Yet another “freetime” muslim who only accept Islam and its directions if it dosent conflict with there own personal interest or have any materialistic outcome :rolleyes:

Suicide bombing has no acceptance in Islam. Infact killing innocents whether Jew or Hindu or Hotentot is a taboo in Islam. It is explicitly written in the Qu'ran as well as studying the noble life of the Prophet (SAW).