Re: Suggestion/Request for moratorium on using politically affiliated terms
Seeing the widening gap amongst ourselves i.e. the public, awaam I believe its about time we eliminate the gap :)
I agree so some extent but then everyone has to give the due respect to each other
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I agree so some extent but then everyone has to give the due respect to each other
LMAO! Oh the irony.
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You want to start is again lulz](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=Lulz)
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I just find it ironic considering you started all the noora stuff and now you talk about respect. Hypocrisy.
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I just find it ironic considering you started all the noora stuff and now you talk about respect. Hypocrisy.
Can you please give me proof that how i started this noora stuff? Dont just make things out of your own
Is it the problem of supporters of PMLN or what
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http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/645516-live-updates-of-azadi-march-16.html#post10105213
Here yo go.
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It may be more meaningful and positive to avoid such mannerism moving forward than who said what and when.
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It may be more meaningful and positive to avoid such mannerism moving forward than who said what and when.
It may be so but lets call a spade a spade as well.
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whatever works
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It's funny because the originator of the slur "nooras" is no other than Imran Khan, leader of PTI.
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I totally agree with Captain1. Nice advice for making rule.
Ideally, rule of the forum should be that one can criticize or say anything they like about party and supporters of party ... but ... no Guppy should abuse or associate names to another Guppy, nor any Guppy should degrade, defame, associate parties with or call a Guppy representing a party (in wrong way), or belittle other Guppy (No Personal attacks between each other or abuses ... nor making association one consider is bad or one opposes).
All should have their opinion and should have right to put their opinion freely and without intimidation, should have right to support whoever they like openly, or should feel free to mention on forum whatever party they like openly, but when we talk about a party or supporters we criticize, we should use words where it fits general meaning, not meaning to represent particular Guppy or to demean another guppy with direct association.
For instance: One can say that Nooras are thick and supporter of corruption, are product of nepotism and corruption, ... or ask question that when Nooras would learn that Thug Nawaz is corrupt and Liar ... but one should not say to anyone that you are Noora (even when someone admits that he is Noora), or that your post is post of Noora, or commenting on someone's post one should not say that ... what one can expect from a Norra ... or a Jiyala ... or that, is that best a Norra ... or jiyala can write ... and so on.
Though one should be able to say that 'from your post, I feel or I think ... you are supporter of PMLN or PPP, etc ... but should accept (even if one do not believe) other person's opinion or associations that person claims about himself.
Anyhow, when dealing with responsive abuses ... or abuse in response to an abuse, we should consider the one guilty is the one who started (or initiated) abuse ... and we should see to that, without blaming responses (even if it is more aggressive than initiated abuse).
The reason is that, most of the time, no one likes to complain (like kids) still feel to response to abuse ... and obviously MODs are not there to sort out complains all the time ... neither they are there on their own to look at all posts and see if abuse is done ... anyhow, MODs can at least see that abuse if happened is initiated or is responsive.
I am actually surprised at the wisdom of our political leaders. Nowhere in civilized world, leaders pick on the followers of the opponent party. Political campaign workers and politicians work through their sweat, tears and blood to convert one more opponent to their supporter. They can't even imagine to tick a common person off, just because the person belongs to another party. They know that to catch more flies, you need honey, bot harsh words.
But for some reason, our stupid politicians don't hesitate to make fun of the supporters of other parties, not thinking that those prople are also the awaam of the same country that you are claiming to be ready to give your life for.
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It's funny because the originator of the slur "nooras" is no other than Imran Khan, leader of PTI.
1- Political slurs have a rather long unfortunate history in Pakistan and did not just recently start with imran coining a term, not that such sloganeering is right regardless of who does it.
2- He is not a member of the site as far as I know, so can't influence him here. But hopefully those who post here will be above that kind of stuff.
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I am actually surprised at the wisdom of our political leaders. Nowhere in civilized world, leaders pick on the followers of the opponent party. Political campaign workers and politicians work through their sweat, tears and blood to convert one more opponent to their supporter. They can't even imagine to tick a common person off, just because the person belongs to another party. They know that to catch more flies, you need honey, bot harsh words.
But for some reason, our stupid politicians don't hesitate to make fun of the supporters of other parties, not thinking that those prople are also the awaam of the same country that you are claiming to be ready to give your life for.
But why a Pakistani so-called leader care for awam? He do not win elections because people voted him, or does he?
In Pakistan if you want to win cases, you bribe the judge (higher the position of judge, the better would be result). You can rent or occupy the house of your neighbour, then get it transferred to your name, no problem. If your neighbour would take you to court, and judge is Iftikhar Chaudhary whom you bribed, than He could also declare that your neighbour's wife is actually your maid.
If you want to pass exams, bribe teachers, exam invigilator ... or best is to bribe those who are authority distributing or preparing papers, but then you can bribe examiners who mark your papers, and you would top the list.
If you want to win election, no problem. You do not need votes or care for voters. Just bribe EC. If you want to keep things local then ROs would do, if not then polling agents can do the trick ... and at any stage you can win election, even if you got your own single vote in election, as 1 vote could easily get registered as 100000 (mind you, typing error), and your opponent's votes can easily get counted as 10000 when it was 100000 (again typing error).
Well, same system is existing all over Pakistan, in most places. So, who and why should one care for voters and their votes?
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Who are mango people?
literally "aam aadmi"
meaning the average joe in pakistan
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Lo ji. I am saying the same thing from last two months at least and no one paid attention, and now captain sahab said and everyone is agreeing.
May be you are not as active in PA ... so kisi ne ghaas na daali? :D j/k
I agree so some extent but then everyone has to give the due respect to each other
As long as we respect others will do the same, the ones who don't do that will learn to respect as time progresses :)
It's funny because the originator of the slur "nooras" is no other than Imran Khan, leader of PTI.
Actually it shouldn't be 'funny', anyways, the point is not who originated and who did not... we the awaam should still respect each other, these 'leaders' are of a party who aims to "serve" us :)
It may be so but lets call a spade a spade as well.
The purpose of suggesting stop-disrespecting in this thread is not to find the culprit and punish him/her, rather to promote respect of each other whatever we did in past, we need to bury it and leave it in our past and make a better/brighter future for ourselves. Its our choice to have a good start (or restart) at some point or we can continue to indulge what we know is not right :)
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One other thing that i've been repeating for so long and once again by virtue of this thread:
When we are replying a post by someone whether of same opinion or opposite, we can always argue the substance he is talking about. i.e. the political discussion. But why attack the poster him or herself?? Why not be a gentleman (or a lady) and give your opinion in a civilized manner without bashing the poster and starting a personal battle??!!
And clearly I see more personal attacks coming from those who are apparently more learned/educated.
Not sure if its too much ask but lets try to stop this and discuss the subject matter more than anything.
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lulz](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=Lulz)
I started it because supporters of N like you started calling PTI supporters by different names
As you sow so shall you reap
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I am actually surprised at the wisdom of our political leaders. Nowhere in civilized world, leaders pick on the followers of the opponent party. Political campaign workers and politicians work through their sweat, tears and blood to convert one more opponent to their supporter. They can't even imagine to tick a common person off, just because the person belongs to another party. They know that to catch more flies, you need honey, bot harsh words.
But for some reason, our stupid politicians don't hesitate to make fun of the supporters of other parties, not thinking that those prople are also the awaam of the same country that you are claiming to be ready to give your life for.
This.
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