successful women

[CM]

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Yay! I win! Like always! Just like Diwana :D

[NomiCA]

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@Nisha25

i’m tired

don’t worry..just PM Reha, RV,Deeba and some more…they can take care i am sure…

[Sehrysh]

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@CM

Yay! I win! Like always! Just like Diwana

There, there - I guess it’s the small things that make small people happy.

[redvelvet]

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@CM

I am so not talking to you after what you said.

A successful woman is one who pisses the guy off and makes him say the above very manly statement

I be the guppan that defined a successful woman different than you did.

I WIN!!! :shoaby:

[CM]

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I so hate you. And are you imply a man can not have a sensitive and emotional side? How sexist of you.

[redvelvet]

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@CM

I so hate you. And are you imply a man can not have a sensitive and emotional side? How sexist of you.

Your lack of sportsmanship here (in not congratulating me) reflects a lack of sensitivity.

Also, sexist shmexist…I WIN!!! :shoaby:

[Nisha25]

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@Sehrysh

There, there - I guess it’s the small things that make small people happy.

[CM]

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Pfft you win when I say you win. That is how it is stated by Allah. Google it if you wish. Women are such sexist pigs. sigh

[Sehrysh]

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Pfft you win when I say you win. That is how it is stated by Allah. Google it if you wish. Women are such sexist pigs. sigh

Shall we send a link of this thread to PCG and invite her comments as well?

[CM]

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Notice how it requires 4 of you women to handle me? That! That is why men are allowed 4 wives :D

[princessjojo]

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I agree that successful, today, refers to a woman with a great career.

However, the same is true of men. When people call a man successful, the first thing one thinks of is a well-settled/rich man who is a known name in his career field.

[Sehrysh]

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@CM

Notice how it requires 4 of you women to handle me? That! That is why men are allowed 4 wives

I don’t pretend to handle you - just the odd blow to the ego and I’m happy

Yes, it doesn’t take much to amuse me :hinna:

[redvelvet]

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Notice how it requires 4 of you women to handle me? That! That is why men are allowed 4 wives :D

Darling, the "allowance" does not mean that you, oh powerful man, can actually handle 4 women. Isn't that also mentioned in the Quran? Don't get so carried away ...mmmkay?

[CM]

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@Sehrysh

I don’t pretend to handle you - just the odd blow to the ego and I’m happy

Yes, it doesn’t take much to amuse me :hinna:

There, there - I guess it’s the small things that make small people happy.

Yes I win!

[Sehrysh]

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@CM

There, there - I guess it’s the small things that make small people happy.

Yes I win!

Touche! And well done! LOL’ing right now.

[CM]

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Darling, the "allowance" does not mean that you, oh powerful man, can actually handle 4 women. Isn't that also mentioned in the Quran? Don't get so carried away ...mmmkay?

Sure it does. I can handle you all just fine ;)

[diwana]

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@CM

There is an unnatural assumption amongst modern day women that being successful means having a career and that housewives are in fact inferior. Oddly enough its the housewives that are actually living a happy and fulfilling life compared to the “successful woman”. Secondly successful does not relate to a job at all. Being successful in life has very different standards. Sadly in the rush to become just like men they have lost sight of that.

The definition of a successful man:

1. A good job
2. Good pay
3. A great house and car
4. A Happy family with a happy wife and kids

Definition of a successful woman:

1. A good job
2. Good pay
3. Great house and car

Family = optional.

Great sarcasm.

@firenze

Agreed.

Most of these are in mid 30’s .. and desperately looking to get laid down or wanted to settled down and have family. but time run’s out for them.. aaah. .poor women

You reap what you sow

Yes. Fighting against nature is not success.

@CM

Negative. I did not say that. I stated openly that is how people define a “successful career woman”. Doesn’t mean I agree with it. But that is how it is defined. A successful woman is defined by a career not by her family and kids. The sad fact is that it is a very idiotic notion.

Sadly not a single guppan to date has realized that. You can be a successful woman even without a job. Why must a job define if a woman is successful or not?

Yes.

[Krypton]

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Negative. I did not say that. I stated openly that is how people define a "successful career woman". Doesn't mean I agree with it. But that is how it is defined. A successful woman is defined by a career not by her family and kids. The sad fact is that it is a very idiotic notion.

Sadly not a single guppan to date has realized that. You can be a successful woman even without a job. Why must a job define if a woman is successful or not?

is a man successful without a career?

[NomiCA]

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is a man successful without a career?

is a woman successful without a 'cared for' family?

[Ghost14]

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I didn't read most of the thread but it seems like people are just discussing what a "successful" woman is. It probably means different things to different people but most desis would probably say that taking care of the family is a part of it.

If you notice, the study that the OP referred to was talking about black women in the west. That's a whole other issue: because of economic and cultural reasons a lot of black men are not as qualified as the black women the study referred to, so the pool of eligible mates is limited. That's probably why a lot of them are single.

In general though, I think women can do both, it's just that most try to do it backwards. Women are best suited to have kids in their 20s, so do the family thing while you're young, then once your kids are old enough, you can focus on your career again. If I were a woman (no smart ass remarks please lol) that's how I would do it. Having kids in your mid to late thirties and then raising them until you're almost 50 is way too much of a chore.

Also, I read an article in Time magazine or the NY Times, about a successful female executive who was trying a dating service for executives etc but was having trouble getting second dates with similarly successful men. The only men who seemed to pursue her were younger and not successful enough for her. She assumed what a lot of women do: that they were intimidated by her. Naturally people in the comments section had a lot to say about the story and one person nailed it perfectly, something this executive who deals with economics couldn't see: she didn't bring anything to the table that those men didn't already have. She had money and comfort, well so did they. They would prefer someone who had what they didn't, time to commit to a family and ensure the house runs smoothly. It makes sense then, that the men who pursued here were younger and less successful because she had what they didn't.

The point I'm trying to make is that men probably aren't intimidated by successful women, it's just that successful women are usually older and depending on their occupation their careers will demand a lot of time. There is probably a percentage of men who are intimidated and the extremely conservative types who don't want a woman working at all.

How do I define successful? For both men and women I think having a family is a part of it. If you both work and raise the kids, then both your careers are going to take a bit of a hit (but things are changing so you never know). I firmly believe that a relationship can only have one power career otherwise there will probably be issues. But that's just my opinion.