Successful career woman = egomaniac and all things selfish

[PyariCgudia]

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This.

Also, you can't really be the bholi bhali naive simple stay-at-home-girl while having a successful career now can you? I don't think most people are like that in real life--most of the time some personality traits cross over into work and vice versa.

I'd say most stay at homes are far from bholi bhali, naive, and simple. I've met plenty of humble and nice simple women who work, on the other hand.

I work, and you should see my home, closet, shoes, belongings. Nothing excessive, and by desi standards, I guess I'd be a puritan.

[PyariCgudia]

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In fact, women who work don't have time to be chalaak, and trouble-making. Well, a lot don't, some still cause trouble, but at least they do it at work, and not at home. We're too tired to make trouble when we get home, we want nice quiet family time just like men. Which makes for a happier marriage.

[Le_Pakistan]

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In fact, women who work don't have time to be chalaak, and trouble-making. Well, a lot don't, some still cause trouble, but at least they do it at work, and not at home. We're too tired to make trouble when we get home, we want nice quiet family time just like men. Which makes for a happier marriage.

What did you base that on?

A trouble maker will create trouble, wether she works or not. And a peace keeper wont, regardless of her profession.

[PyariCgudia]

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The Glamarous Housewives of GS

[Sara516]

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^ This!

I think it's that assumption that stay-at-home wife/mom or woman with a job and not a career = bholi bhali and naive, and as soon as a woman wants to excel in her career and do well, she's all things terrible that rubs me the wrong way.

It's a stereotype, plain and simple. Each individual is different and the career versus homemaker decision shouldn't influence how a woman's character is presumed to be.

I dont' buy into the stereotype, and i think it's definitely unfair that while there may be the small handful who are like that, I know dozens and dozens of women who aren't like that at all. unfortunately, the negative stereotypes are always the loudest aren't they?

[Le_Pakistan]

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The Glamarous Housewives of GS

Don't play the game if you can't take the pain.

[Sehrysh]

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In fact, women who work don't have time to be chalaak, and trouble-making. Well, a lot don't, some still cause trouble, but at least they do it at work, and not at home. We're too tired to make trouble when we get home, we want nice quiet family time just like men. Which makes for a happier marriage.

Another stereotype, with no basis in reality.

What did you base that on?

A trouble maker will create trouble, wether she works or not. And a peace keeper wont, regardless of her profession.

^ This. A person's character is not defined by her profession.

[PyariCgudia]

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@Le_Pakistan

Don't play the game if you can't take the pain.

Why play games? Come on the good side, and be a good person. :)

[gul_khan]

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Well I am not saying that all working women are like this but I have met quite a lot of women,most of them are doctors, who just taunt their husbands that they left their careers coz of them, they dint practice to have their kids bla bla bla. And some of them have this superiority complex that they earn more than their husbands. So yeah they are egomaniacs.

You know what I think we can't just be just multi talented & multi tasking. Women want to have career too in which most of their life time passes away then thye want to have family & kids as they are worried because their biological clock is ticking. Doing all the things in the world what both men & women do is too much.You can't just do everything out there. why don't just do what you are designed for. Don't you think its too much for a women to do all these things along with all the 3600 maslay we have.

[Aish]

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What are we designed for?

Islamic history consists of female warriors who stood along side the men and fought with them, as well as female business women. My inspiration doesn't come from Hilary Clinton or Beyonce. My inspiration are those strong women who were physically and emotionally strong when they needed to be.

And I don't have 3600 maslay that a man doesn't have.

[PyariCgudia]

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Everyone has maslay these days - men and women. Let's fast forward to our current century.

[Sara516]

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Well I am not saying that all working women are like this but I have met quite a lot of women,most of them are doctors, who just taunt their husbands that they left their careers coz of them, they dint practice to have their kids bla bla bla. And some of them have this superiority complex that they earn more than their husbands. So yeah they are egomaniacs.

You know what I think we can't just be just multi talented & multi tasking. Women want to have career too in which most of their life time passes away then thye want to have family & kids as they are worried because their biological clock is ticking. Doing all the things in the world what both men & women do is too much.You can't just do everything out there. why don't just do what you are designed for. Don't you think its too much for a women to do all these things along with all the 3600 maslay we have.

Why don't you just do what YOU'RE designed for and leave the other women to do what they're designed for?
Why si taht such a difficult concept to grasp?

Not every woman is incapable of balancing home and work, some thrive on that kind of lifestyle.
and on the flip side, there's no shame in admitting you find more satisfaction in one thing than the other.

[AngelEyess]

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Just like the people who think that being housewives make women “Lazy, Lousy, inferior, dramatic, incompetent, good-for-nothing gossip girls” :halo:

The dilemma of the modern homemaker – The Express Tribune

The problem with us is that we are always stereotyping. Trying to defend and justify our views by undermining the views and actions of others!

[Deeba1234]

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How is being pragmatic a negative.. and used alongside being a predator lol

[Deeba1234]

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Why don't you just do what YOU'RE designed for and leave the other women to do what they're designed for? Why si taht such a difficult concept to grasp?

Not every woman is incapable of balancing home and work, some thrive on that kind of lifestyle. and on the flip side, there's no shame in admitting you find more satisfaction in one thing than the other.

Totally agree..

So annoying that I can't like your post from my phone..

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[S_and_S]

Well I am not saying that all working women are like this but I have met quite a lot of women,most of them are doctors, who just taunt their husbands that they left their careers coz of them, they dint practice to have their kids bla bla bla. And some of them have this superiority complex that they earn more than their husbands. So yeah they are egomaniacs.

You know what I think we can't just be just multi talented & multi tasking. Women want to have career too in which most of their life time passes away then thye want to have family & kids as they are worried because their biological clock is ticking. Doing all the things in the world what both men & women do is too much.You can't just do everything out there. why don't just do what you are designed for. Don't you think its too much for a women to do all these things along with all the 3600 maslay we have.

^People still think like this?!?
Aaye carumba...

I think every scenario and woman is different and I have never seen anyone except for crazy inlaws judge anyone for either, or. I dont know any husbands who force their wives to stay home or vice versa. Most girks/woman I know in thus city work or are in school for the long haul even with Children in the picture. The thing about living in the US is whether or not a woman is career oriented, after a certain amount of time it gets difficult to stay home. People need to stay busy and once your babies pass a certain age, boredom in this country kicks in really fast. You need an activity to stimulate your mind. Even wealthy people's wives are working, they are just fortunate enough to be able to work on their dreams because money isn't a factor. Sometimes people just need to feel productive in society and I think the posters comment about "do what your designed to do" is so gross. It's about freedom of choice and not enforcing your wants on someone if she CAN manage to do everything. Most woman ARE doing both these days.

Gross.

[X2]

What is a 'career woman' and how do you differentiate a 'career woman' from a woman who works? I don't get it

Is career woman someone who invests her effort in her career and wants to be good at what she does and gets ahead? Or is it someone who prioritized career progress over family at some point in time or throughout her working years?

Because if it is the former then you know what, I want my kids to be educated by a teacher who is focused on what she does and it's more than a paycheck for her, when my mother goes to a doctor, I want that doctor to be someone who values her career and wants to do her best at the level she feels she can make the most impact. I am very thankful to the doctor who put in the time and effort to become a specialist ...a respected authority who knows her subject matter so well that I am comfortable that my Mom is in good hands.

If the definition is latter one, where a career woman is someone who is ignoring family responsibilities and have them play second fiddle to other things, it does not have to be a job, it can be "social work" ... Or social life, ...or dramas and Bollywood addiction ....or anything else.

And if doing that makes someone a bad family member then does it not apply to men? Whether its sports, hanging with the guys, or whatever.

At times we have to make sacrifices, men and women both. Sometimes you don't take that job which includes weekly travel, or don't apply for the role which would mean much longer hours... And at times you do those not just because a bigger title, or a few extra bucks, or a cooler or impressive employer brand.

You do them because you invest in yourself for your family spouse, children, parents..and yes yourself because if you are the type of person who needs to be intellectually stimulated and engaged in the field you have passion for then you must do it, you can't sit around unhappy whether you say it or not, feeling you can't do what you want to do and are limiting yourself too much.

Choose the right terms to describe someone, the term career woman to describe some selfish, calculating, cold, person is just as intelligent as using the term observant Muslim to describe some narrow minded,ignorant, chauvinist, bigot.

[Sehrysh]

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What is a 'career woman' and how do you differentiate a 'career woman' from a woman who works? I don't get it

Is career woman someone who invests her effort in her career and wants to be good at what she does and gets ahead? Or is it someone who prioritized career progress over family at some point in time or throughout her working years?

Because if it is the former then you know what, I want my kids to be educated by a teacher who is focused on what she does and it's more than a paycheck for her, when my mother goes to a doctor, I want that doctor to be someone who values her career and wants to do her best at the level she feels she can make the most impact. I am very thankful to the doctor who put in the time and effort to become a specialist ...an respected authority who knows her subject matter so well that I am comfortable that my Mom is in good hands.

If the definition is latter one, where a career woman is someone who is ignoring family responsibilities and have them play second fiddle to other things, it does not have to be a job, it can be "social work" ... Or social life, ...or dramas and Bollywood addiction ....or anything else.

And if doing that makes someone a bad family member then does it not apply to men? Whether its sports, hanging with the guys, or whatever.

At times we have to make sacrifices, men and women both. Sometimes you don't take that job which includes weekly travel, or don't apply for the role which would mean much longer hours... And at times you do those not just because a bigger title, or a few extra bucks, or a cooler or impressive employer brand.

You do them because you invest in yourself for your family spouse, children, parents..and yes yourself because if you are the type of person who needs to be intellectually stimulated and engaged in the field you have passion for then you must do it, you can't sit around unhappy whether you say it or not, feeling you can't do what you want to do and are limiting yourself too much.

Choose the right terms to describe someone, the term career woman to describe some selfish, calculating, cold, person is just as intelligent as using the term observant Muslim to deceive some narrow minded,ignorant, chauvinist, bigot.

Can I like your comment a million times?

It's the labels that confound me. Labels mean nothing, yet people are judged by arbitrary labels without being given the opportunity to be known for who they are beyond single facets of their personality.

You tell 'em X2!