Study says tribals prefer modern over religious parties

Thats good news. I hope the new govt invest more time and money in this area & help tribals get out of this violent jihadi mentality.

http://dawn.com/2008/03/20/nat7.htm

Study says tribals prefer modern over religious parties

By Sher Baz Khan

ISLAMABAD, March 19: Contrary to the general perception, a vast majority of the tribal people have no expectations from the religious parties and want a political change to resolve their socio-economic problems, according to a study released here on Wednesday.

Nor the tribals accept the Jihad as defined by the religious parties and believe that illiteracy and unemployment were driving their youth to religious extremism, says the study conducted by the Community Appraisal and Motivation Programme (CAMP), a civil society organisation.

These findings were presented by Naveed Ahmad, author of the research report, at a ceremony attended by Deputy British High Commissioner Ray Kyle; former secretary Fata, Brig (retired) Mahmood Shah; analyst Naseem Zehra and a teacher of Peshawar University Dr Ijaz Khan.

Fifty-seven per cent of the tribal people believe learning modern sciences and Quran was the preferred Jihad, the research found. Less than 25 per cent of them understood Jihad as peaceful resistance to oppression and 17 per cent subscribed to the armed resistance concept of Jihad.

Surprisingly, about 85 per cent of the tribals supported women education. Tribal women wished the government provided their community educational and healthcare facilities and access to clean drinking water.

Another surprise was that over 67 per cent of the tribal people considered the custom of Swara a criminal act against the 25 per cent who thought the custom resolved family feuds. Only one in 100 approved of “the tribal custom”.

However, the majority of them justified honour killing.

About 60 per cent of the respondents believed that even if religious parties were given political power in Fata, they would not have solved their problems. That showed the confidence that the religious parties had enjoyed during US-led Cold War against the Soviet Union has been eroding.

Over 90 per cent of the tribal people considered President Musharraf’s crack down on religious institutions unjustified.

They listed illiteracy as the main cause of the tribal youth falling prey to religious extremists, followed by the disastrous repercussions of the Afghan Jihad, poverty, bad governance and unemployment.

A majority of the respondents even did not know what the term ‘Talibanisation’ meant. Twenty per cent know Taliban as students of religious seminaries, 16 per cent think they are trying to introduce Shariah, while about nine per cent think that they are Jihadis.

The study sees a bleak future for the tribal youths as a majority of them spend their time in unproductive activity in the tribal culture. According to the survey results, these unemployed young people indulge in drug abuse, domestic violence and other crimes.

Majority 68 per cent have confidence in the Woolasi Jirga, an old form of tribal assembly with power lying with the masses. 75 per cent said Sarkari Jirga backed by the government under the Frontier Crimes Regulation (FCR) favoured the rich and the privileged of the political administration.

The report has demanded the government to initiate political reforms in Fata which would ensure socio-economic development of the tribal people.

During the transition period, the tribal people should be at least extended the rights to association and expression. The study recommends that members of the Agency Council should be elected on the basis of adult franchise.

It says more primary, high and middle schools should be established for girls, with at least one women college for each agency.

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Interesting.

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and what of the percentage of the tribals who consider Arabs their masters and will do anything they command?

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I say it again-kick all the arab terrorists and their punjabi slaves out of Roh. There will never be peace in Roh unless we get rid of all punjabi and arab miscreants who are involved in terrorism in Roh, as well as in Afghanistan and other countries and taking undue advantage of Pashtun hospitality.

WANA, March 16: At least nine people were killed and nine others wounded when a US plane hit a mud-compound in South Waziristan’s regional headquarters of Wana on Sunday afternoon, a security official said.

He said that the plane had hit the compound, barely one kilometre from the main regional market, with what appeared to be three precision bombs at around 3.10pm. “The adjoining houses largely escaped the damage,” the official said.

** Among those killed in the attack included a man of Middle-Eastern origin, two men from the Central Asian republic of Turkmenistan and six non-locals, an allusion to Pakistanis from the Punjab, the official said.**

Local people said that the house had been rented out to ‘non-local’ people about a year ago and about 20 non-local people lived there.

** Among the nine wounded in the bombing were two Arabic-speaking men and seven non-locals from Punjab.**

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Nina Arab and Punjabi miscreants have been killed other will follow them soon. Umpteen innocent Pashtuns also often get killed but we have to bear this loss with equanimity for a peaceful Roh.

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I wish your mythical "Innocent Pashtoon" and "peaceful Roh" was correct. Unfortunately many "Non-Innocent Pashtoons" have given away their women to the Arab and Uzbek terrorists. Most of the houses full of these "miscreants" being blasted these days are owned by the "non-innocent" pashtoons.

In some ways your statements are more mischievous if not downright deadly than the Jihadi militants.

Arab miltants will be cleansed one day, but your "ethnic propaganda" will continue poisoning the wells in Pakistan.

It is sad that many Pashtuns make these ethnocentric statements without realzing that the same garbage has lead to the death of Afghanistan.

Afgahnistan is a classic case where educated Pashtoons became lapdogs of communists and brought them straight into Kabul. These poor thangs never realized that the bane of Afghanistan was not the lack of communism, but the lack of harmony between Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras and Pashtoons.

And Pashtoons being dominant should take more of the blame of what is really wrong with the the tribal infested cesspool aka Afghanistan.

People who have traveled through Afghanistan, or at least read the excellent book "Kite runner" know very well how Pashtoon educated elite truly destroyed their homeland.

Unfortunately the same disease of Pashtoon-is-better has been pushed in Pakistan for a long time. The reality is quite different though.

Here is how!

Any Pashtoon (Pakistani or Afghani) can buy home or set up a business in any city or town of Pakistan (Some areas of Karachi are probably the only exception). And people + government will respect them and honor them and protect them .

Do Pashtoons return that favor to others? Heck no! (Still the leftist Pashtoons will continue blaming others! Sadly)

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burqaboshx:

You Pakistanis are downright corrupt and devoid of any moral fibre. Instead of getting your act together you blame Pushtuns, Afghans, Indians, Americans, Jews and every other nation for all of your own created misery. You people regularly make fun of other ethnicities and degrade them and blame them for the crimes they've not committed and when they resist you dare to pontificate them on moral integrity. If you had an iota of honesty you'd see what was the reason of my previous post.

So what if few Pushtüns have married off their daughters to Arabs and Uzbeks. Is it haram in Paki version of Islam? And not every Arab and Uzbek is a terrorist. You people should be the last to call anyone terrorist, its your army that has been exporting Islamic terrorism into all neighbouring countries and instead of giving its innocent youth modern education and job opportunities your glorious army made them Jihadis aka Islamic terrorists and hve now allowed the master to drop Hellfire on them, what a shameless people

Yara, it's up to Afghans whether they want to become lapdogs of communists or socialists. You Pakis are also a very loyal poodle of Americans and the whole world knows it-do you see Afghans commenting on your slavery.

You Pakistanis have regularly and brutally massacred every ethnic group who dared to demand for provincial autonomy and rights and now you have nerves to criticize Afghanistan. You have killed thousands of innocent Balochs so far in different army actions, you Pakistanis brutally massacred millions of Bengalis, thousands of Sindhis and the people of the northern areas and you are now killing Pushtoons in the tribal areas at the behest of you master uncle Sam-ever heard the saying 'the pot calling kettle black'?

In the not so distant past around 40 Pushtuns were sniped on the streets of Karachi by the goons of MQM at the behest of your 'president'-how many of those murderers have been arrested so far? Pushtuns have every right to live in Karachi or in any other part of Pakistan as long NWFP and Balochestan are a part of Pakistan. Karachi is a part of Sindh, not of Punjab or Bihar, some people talk about Karachi as if they had brought it from Lunknow in their dowry. Many non-pushtuns and non-Balochs are also living happily in many parts of NWFP and Balochestan and their lives are safe there.

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shawaiz_K, we know the heaven that Afghanistan is. So b4 you start peaching peace to us fix your own problems. We have our problems, but they’re no where as bad as things are in Afghanistan.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/world/story/30964.html

Radical Islamists no longer welcome in Pakistani tribal areas
By Jonathan S. Landay | McClatchy Newspapers

Peshawar, Pakistan, and Federally Administered Tribal Areas along the border with Afghanistan

PESHAWAR, Pakistan — Shaheed Rehman Afridi lay in a casualty-packed trauma ward, unable to make sense of the blast that punctured his body with tiny metal missiles and killed dozens of his kinsmen as they met for a traditional tribal assembly.

On nearby beds, children with head wounds writhed in pain, inconsolable by frantic parents. Men with torn abdomens and shattered limbs lay in silent semi-consciousness or moaned in wide-eyed agony as relatives called out for one of Lady Reading Hospital’s too few doctors. The air reeked of blood, disinfectant and sweat.

The young fanatic who detonated himself on March 2 and inflicted the suffering on innocent civilians once would have found welcome and honor in Pakistan’s autonomous tribal belt, along with other Islamic extremists, including Osama bin Laden and his followers, who fled there after the 2001 U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan.

No more.

The tribes no longer are willing hosts to the foreign fighters, local jihadis and criminal warlords who hold sway over parts of the Pashtun tribes’ mountain homeland. They’ve become tired and infuriated by the bloodshed, coercion and suffering that radical Islam has brought to their lives, said tribal elders and local journalists.

“We also want to get rid of terrorism, al Qaida and extremism,” said Hamidullah Jan Afridi, a tribal leader from the Khyber Agency region who serves in Pakistan’s Senate.

That sentiment was driven home when voters on Feb. 18 replaced Islamists with secular politicians in all eight National Assembly seats from the Federally Administered Tribal Area, the Massachusetts-size region bordering Afghanistan.

But anger against the Islamists hasn’t translated into support for the U.S.-backed Pakistani government, even though it’s fighting the extremists with troops, rockets and missiles.

“People are angry at both sides,” said Afridi, a 31-year-old shopkeeper who had blood oozing through the bandages that wrapped his shrapnel-pocked thighs, as more victims of a suicide bombing arrived from the tribal region town of Darra Adam Khel.

The region is closed to foreign journalists and international aid organizations, and local journalists operate under self-imposed restrictions to protect themselves.

Interviews with tribal leaders, local journalists, human rights activists and a senior official in Peshawar, however, provided a glimpse of the suffering of desperately poor people who’re caught in a secret war between a crazy quilt of foreign and local extremist groups and Pakistani forces backed by the United States.

“We are caught in the middle,” lamented Abid Khan, 60, as he waited outside an operating room where surgeons were working desperately to save the life of one of his brothers. A second brother was killed by the suicide bomber.

As the war has intensified, life for Khan and other residents has become harder and more dangerous in areas of the tribal belt that are under the sway of militants and criminal warlords who’ve wrapped themselves in the garb of Islamic purity.

Militants have turned towns and villages into battlegrounds and forced civilians to witness beatings and executions of alleged religious transgressors or purported spies. The residents are compelled to give food and money to militant groups and their family members to fight the government. Failure to comply can result in a relative being kidnapped or worse.

In the latest violence, a suicide bomber detonated an explosives-packed car Thursday in Wana, the headquarters town of the South Waziristan agency, killing five Pakistani soldiers and injuring nine others, the Pakistan military said.

The militants also have assassinated an estimated 160 hereditary tribal chiefs, crippling the system of tribal gatherings, or jirgahs, which for centuries have been the main mechanism through which tribal laws were enforced, traditions maintained and peace accords negotiated.

A journalist from the Mohmand Agency region, who requested anonymity to avoid retaliation, recounted that in October, Islamist guerrillas called some 5,000 villagers to a funeral for four of its fighters and then forced the crowd to watch the beheadings of six people accused of killing the fighters.

Islamic guerrillas have used civilians as shields against army attacks. They’re beaten or whipped for failing to comply with the militants’ strict interpretations of Islam, such as growing beards to a required length or praying at specific times. Barbershops and kiosks that sell DVDs or CDs have been blown up.

“If you have a wedding ceremony, you have to have a very simple wedding ceremony,” said a Mohmand Agency resident who asked not to be identified further. “They kidnap people as well — people who say they don’t want the Taliban or the government.”

Girls are barred from schools — one female teacher was found beheaded last year — and women are forbidden to leave their homes without a male relative.

“They have divided villages and neighborhoods into zones, and people have to support the group in its area financially and with manpower,” said a journalist based in the Khyber Agency who request anonymity to avoid retaliation.

Several local journalists and tribal leaders spoke of criminal groups that operate with Islamabad’s tacit approval so long as they refrain from criticizing the government and confronting the army, and keep more radical outfits off their turf.

One such group, the Partisans of Islam, is said to be led by a former truck driver named Mangal Bagh, who holds sway around the area of Bara in the Khyber Agency just south of Peshawar.

Residents of Bagh’s fiefdom must listen to his daily three-hour FM radio sermons in case a family member is summoned or cited for failing to attend prayers, said several local journalists. Those who fail to report are punished, they said.

Bagh, who’s said to command some 3,000 fighters, is accused of kidnapping critics, storming their villages and executing alleged transgressors of his religious edits, the journalists said. Yet the government has taken no action against him.

Just before Pakistan’s Feb. 18 parliamentary elections, Bagh summoned the region’s National Assembly candidates to address a massive rally that he organized. Fourteen showed up, the journalists said.

Still, the growing disdain of ordinary people for the militant Islamists hasn’t translated into support for Pakistani security forces. That’s partly due to intimidation and partly because of the abiding respect for fellow Muslims inculcated by tribal traditions.

In addition, the tribes harbor even greater hatred and distrust for President Pervez Musharraf’s regime and its chief patron, the United States, than they do for the militants.

“If you have a friend like the United States, then you have no need for an enemy,” said Abdul Karim Mehsud, a prominent lawyer who leads an alliance of moderate tribal leaders that was formed last year to promote the rights of the region’s inhabitants.

Islamabad for years encouraged the tribes to support Islamic fighters: first, the Afghans, Arabs and Pakistanis who fought the 1979-89 Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, and then the Taliban, the Afghan Pashtun militia that hosted bin Laden.

But after the 9/11 attacks, Musharraf abruptly reversed that policy and began operations to eliminate bin Laden and his followers and block them and Afghan and Pakistani fighters from attacking U.S.-led NATO forces in Afghanistan.

Unknown numbers of civilians have been killed and injured over the past four years in counterinsurgency operations in which the Pakistani army has employed artillery, helicopter gunships and jets against guerrillas hiding in civilian areas.

Missile strikes by U.S. unmanned aerial drones and U.S. artillery fire from the Afghan side of the border aimed at al Qaida and Taliban targets have claimed the lives of women and children, deaths that demand punishment or compensation under the Pashtun tribal code.

The Pakistani security operations, undertaken with U.S. intelligence, funding and training, also have forced tens of thousands of civilians to flee the tribal region for other parts of the country, according to tribal leaders, local journalists and human rights monitors.

Most of the displaced, they said, have moved in with relatives or found accommodations as far away as the southern port city of Karachi, while some linger in poorly run refugee camps in towns in the North West Frontier Province.

“Hundreds and thousands have been uprooted. In retaliation there have been sympathies for the criminals (militants),” said Afridi, the senator. “We are making our own enemies ourselves.”

Qayoom Sher Afridi, a minister in the North West Frontier Province government, said that in January “almost everyone” fled his area of North Waziristan from “indiscriminate shelling” by Pakistani troops pursuing Baitullah Mehsud, an extremist leader charged with ordering the Dec. 27 assassination of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto.

A Pakistan army spokesman admitted that civilians had been killed and injured, but said he had no figures. “All efforts were made to avoid indiscriminate fire,” Maj. Gen. Afthar Abbas said.

The hatred of Musharraf’s regime and the United States has helped stock the pool of potential recruits for the militants with jobless, angry young men whose traditions venerate warriors and mandate aiding fellow Muslims. Many are indoctrinated in religious schools patronized by militant groups.

“People are illiterate, unemployed. They can be inspired by the Taliban to join them,” said a journalist who’s based in the North Waziristan headquarters town of Miran Shah and asked to remain anonymous to avoid retaliation. “Eighty percent of the people do not support the Taliban, but they are scared.”

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shawaiz...brotha calm down!

Listen to someone other than Karzai for once. No one is right. Neither Musharraf, nor Karzai. Both have skeletons in their closets. The common folks suffer on both sides of the border.

A countless number of Punjabi families/Sindhi families/Baloch families as well as Pashtun families have been ruined by the problems that we all face, together. It's not one better than the other.

The current circumstances are such that unity is needed. If we start to point fingers, we'll be at it for a very very very very long time and the people causing all this chaos will get a boost in their ambitions. So lets not point fingers at each other or degrade any ethnicity. We're all the same.

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What does the study mean 'tribals should be given at least the rights to association and expression"? Don't they have it now?

But ofcourse education is the cure all but if that's done, they can no longer blame the tribals for all the violence can they.

The primary function that the tribals are performing right now is that of the sacrifcial lambs followed by the easiest target practice followed by chief blame takers for all the rascal religiouso

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shamraz khan...I've already given this same advice to all Pakistanis-they should put their own house in order before criticizing Afghans. Actually it was not me but that burqabosh who brought up Afghanistan in her post.

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teggy brotha I don't care what Karzai says, stop imagining things.

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shawaiz, irregardless of criticism thrown by someone at a particular country or political group, you should not be retaliating the way you are. Your whole "You Pakistanis" this and "You Pakistanis" that is very disappointing and I wonder why A. You waste your time on a Pakistani forum when you don't like us. B. Why Pakistanis are so generous and kind-hearted that they haven't banned you from posting on this website with the hate messages you throw around.

Think about it.

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Many Afghanis and Indians have one thing in common. Hatred for Pakistan. That's why they spend so much time maligning our country.

Afghanis are the worst though. They have been given refuge, treated as brothers, and still the very first opportunity and they bite us as if we owe them big time.

It is time Afghanis realize that they are not living in the times of long-dead shahs. Afghanistan is now a puny 15 million or so population worth of country with zero food and zero resources.

Even though Pakistan is not the richest or most resourceful in the region, but we hold well on our side.

And it is time that Afghanis accepted the realities of their most generous neighbor.

The least they can do is quit back biting us, and start accepting the border. It will do them good. I guarantee that.

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That and take some responsibility for the menace of Islamic extremism that has now infested Pakistan after they conveniently let it take over their country.

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I agree. The Afghan government has always opposed us on every single international issue. Despite all the sacrifices that we have given for them in the past, accomodating no less than 3 million refugees during the Soviet invasion in the eighties, I find many Afghans the most thankless people on earth. They are basically an opportunitic bunch. I personally know many people (even some who went to universities and medical colleges in Pakistan in the 90s!) who talk ill of Pakistan instead of appreciating the fact that were it not for that education in Pakistan they would most likely not be working in Britain.

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This was not a secret. If you know a bit about N-W.F.P and FATA, you should be able to know the ground realities there. Such reports were not published before. Why now?

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GoldenAsif:
Now you've jumped in with your hate-filled anti-Afghan rant and prejudices.
Did you ask those Afghan students the reason of their hate. Maybe some of their family members were got killed when Pakistan backed terrorist Hekmatyar attacked Kabul and devastated it thoroughly-or maybe they were brutally massacred by Pakistan backed criminals Talebans becaue they were Hazaras or Tajiks.
Anyway, badmouthing neighbouring countries or its people is very common in our part of the world and Pakistanis are no exception, read that Burqaposhx's post or your own.
Almost all of the Afghan refugees camps were located in NWFP and upper BAlochestan and the local people welcomed them with open arms because we are anyway same people who were divided by the British imperialists, but unfortunately in NWFP the refugees were not treated the way they should've been treated.

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Exactly, such reports were against the mofadaat of Pakistani establishment.

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You are right when you say we Pakistanis have a habit to blame any other country rather than blaming themselves in first place.
But what was the situation back in 1980s, when the Afghan refugees were brutally used by the Americans to fight against the reds.
Did you cry infront of your Neighbours door to seek justice before bashing Pakistanis and their country only!?

Now dont ask for further explainations on the AMis involvment intensifying the chaos at the borders of Pakistan. Thats your home work for now.