students at american univesities should not temper their views !! Freedom of speech !

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Kaleem founded NMIMBY;

No Muslims In My Back Yard

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oh ok..sorry…i wasnt sure :smiley: coz i dint know what ACLU is :o
i had to google it :hehe:

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Kaleem,
ACLU is doing a great job of defending Muslims against Rethuglikkkan racist Christian radicals.

Madhanee,
There is a difference between criticizing a country and criticizing a religion. Your example of 'students who study in Madina Shareef should also be able to criticize Islamic Shariah' doesn't really fit in this discussion.

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My faith is in the U.S. system of Democracy AS, so it's not really all that different.

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Being an American Muslim Republican has go to be one of the hardest jobs in the world since Muslims fit into the group (ie anyone who isn't WASP) that the other Republicans can't stand. They dislike Muslims as much as they do the ACLU.

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Kaleem i dont think they r untamed passions, PBH is right

underthedome US democracy: in the last elections didnt more ppl vote for Gore but Bush still won? what kinda democracy is that?
Islamic Shariah is the only correct form of governance

AS u r right

Madhanee i'm all for rights of minority and freedom of speech (within reasonable limits so its not offensive to anyones sentiments) in any Muslim country
i dont know tho whether political activity is Islamically allowed in Madina Shareef? hmmm...

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AS, that Kuytay ki aulad is calling me Qadiyani Skunk, do you have any advice for him? Don’t tell me your head is up his Shariah hole.

:salam:

:jhanda:

Irem Aunti, I know nothing of this sort is allowed in any of the Islamic countries, but Muslims want to see it in other countries, but their own.

:jhanda:

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PBH yea Madhanee is right, respect for elders :smiley: :slight_smile:
Madhanee come on u r older u dont have to follow :smack:

Madhanee in Muslim countries, taking Pak for example, no one is allowed to protest against the govt whether they r of any political party or belief but still pvtly they r always protesting.

we used to have hindu neighborz who were very nice ppl and excellent neighbors but but they always used to be complaining against pak and the irony is that the uncle was in a high paying provincial govt job!!! so minorities also sometimes complain unjustifiably.
look at Ahmadis, most Ahmadis i know in pak r hecka rich n well settled but they still complain?? akhir kyun!!!

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My advice to him that he should not used those words. But since you called him KKA so it’s even now.

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Irem..tell me who is complaining, I will personally take care of them. I will have them killed.

:jhanda:

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:smack: amreekis are too much sometimes.

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ok folks...I have been called to a meeting...I will add my response from home ...have fun.

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What a novel thought. I think you’re getting it…

Sounds like that bothered you a little. You know, on account of they weren’t from Pakistan or in this case Muslim.

I see, I see…

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They’d very much frown on your signature, however. It’s that whole “God” thing.

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Yeah, why is unjustified for a non-national with a high paying job in Pakistan to complain but perfectly justifed for a non-national attending a US university to complain about the US to the point of advocating a victory by the Christian country of China in a future conflict with the US?

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Seminole its coz how could he claim Hindus dont get rights in pak when he himself was in a govt job which many pakis would gve a lot to be doing.
to this day, if anyone asks me what is the position of Muslims in America,i always say the plus and negative both, i mention that non-Muslim students on my campus were willing to act as escorts to Muslims post 9/11 but there was discrimination at airports for example.
i never experienced much discrimination but there are certain Muslims who were discriminated against. i never said that ALL Muslims in usa are discriminated against.
however they had hardly anything positive to say abt pak and they only glorified india :p

storch
"What a novel thought. I think you're getting it..."

there's a difference b/w hollow complaining and voicing a sincere concern :p

"Sounds like that bothered you a little. You know, on account of they weren't from Pakistan or in this case Muslim."

no not at all :p i consider non-Muslims to be equal citizens of our country. our janitor is a Christian family and they never criticise pak for the sake of criticism only but these Hindu neighbors of ours did.

"They'd very much frown on your signature, however. It's that whole "God" thing."

ACLU is anti-religion???

Madhanee thanks but its ok i dont believe in violence and khoon kharaba :D

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Ohio and storch who?

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I know.

We’re so quaint-what with our silly little expectations of simple courtesy and such. Good Golly!

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Oh, do not even act like you don’t know me siht can.

You, sir are a deeeelite!

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//however they had hardly anything positive to say abt pak and they only glorified india

//

Such a nice statement, Just because the person had a government job does not mean that he is not being discriminated against. You have not mentioned if he is under-employed (to make things simple a graduate doing a matriculates job). If you compare the situation you have muslims who have well paying jobs in the govt as well as the private sector and then go ahead and claim that "Indians are the embodiment of all evils"

What do you say to that. I know, I am digressing from the topic but could not resist.

It is nice to make statements that muslims are being discriminated against. You will have to understand why. They dont assimilate into the society as other communities.

You can say that it is their choice. But then does the same freedom exist for non-muslims in the so called Islamic countries.