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Miandad was at 280 in the FIRST inning of the match. There was no time constraint. Imran could have waited until he had at least reached 300.
Secondly, if Imran really wanted to make use of remaining time then he could have informed the batsmen in one of the breaks about his plans. But his decision was sudden. Miandad says that Imran had not discussed anything with him the day before either.

In any case, I have seen Miandad's complaints about that day at several places but couldn't fin Imran's account anywhere. Does anyone know what Imran says?
Just interested.

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^ team comes first :D

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@ Khoji

Imran probably should have waited for Miandad to complete his triple century but it is not something people incl. Miandad should make such a big issue of ... and where do you stop? ... should have allowed Javed to go for Sober's record >>> should have waited until Javed reached 400* and so on

I remember Dravid once declared the indian innings with Tendulkar (194*) nearing another test double hundred without informing Sachin (and he made his displeasure public) ... These things happen in cricket

I certainly doubt that Sachin if and when he writes his own biography/autobipgraphy will be devoting one full chapter to that declaration!!

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But Imran DIDN'T wait. And so he is the one who would be blamed for playing politics in cricket instead of people abusing Miandad for complaining about it.
Miandad was already upset because Imran had played leading role in the player's revolt against him earlier, and now a controversial decision like this.

I don't know the relationship between Dravid and Sachin. But we know what was going on between Miandad and Imran at that time. And this is why Miandad never forgot this incidence.


IMO, this incidence shows the arrogant and revengeful side of Imran's personality.

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See this:
http://www.cricketvoice.com/cricketforum2/index.php?topic=4496.0
Tendulkar also felt let down when Dravid declared. But there was nothing between the two and later Dravid also went to Tendulkar and talked to him. This is why even though Tendulkar felt down but he decided to move on.
On the other hand, Imran had just revolted against Miandad. So they were already on bad terms. And then it looks like Imran did not talk to Miandad either. Did he?
That’s why I was asking Imran’s take on this episode. Any reference?

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Sure. But what would have team lost by spending another half an hour?
It was first inning of the match.

PS: Thanks for that link of the scorecard.

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^ I am sure you can dig it out yourself or even better read IK's autobiography 'All-round View'

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not if you read this. Sachin was clearly very upset

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1040330/asp/frontpage/story_3064484.asp

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I cannot find fault with Imran Khan for declaring. Enough runs were scored, so winning was more important.

How the heck did Balwinder Singh Sandhu score 71 runs in the 1st inning? Sad to see Vishwanath flop so badly. Probably must have been his last series.

Time appears to have stood still. This indeed was the last Paksitan team that I know each and every player - even Rashid who replaced Majid at #3 in this series. Sandhu and Maninder were kind of newbies at the time - rest were veterans.

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I think I should have opted for a better cut-off time to see the effects of frequently rotating test captains in recent years. :smack:

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Very True but at the time of boycott against Miandad where was the team :sunnyboy: That was their Ego :cobra:

BTW, I was just going thru the record of Miandad as Captain before Senior players refusal to play under his captaincy … He won the home series against Aussies and lost series again WI (No doubt at that time WI was the best team in world) & last series against Aus in Aus (2-1) then won the series against SL (2-0) and there were nothing wrong with his captaincy but Hat Dharmi of so called great players.

No doubt :hbk: and Pakistani can’t forget the last ball six and first victory ever in any tournament :jhanda: I’ve see clip of that last ball six :wink:

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Miandad was the tactical brain behind Imran's cpataincy. Saw it many times. The best one was against India in Sharjah. Miandad was not playing as he was injured and Imran was clearly struggling against the Indians. During drinks break Miandad charged on to the field and took Imran to one side and spoke to him at length. Whatever he said to Imran had a magical affect on the team performance when the match resumed.

Imran was a great captain and lets not take anything away from him but the tactics were always Miandad's.

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Miandad was great, no doubt, a cricketing genius

I rate him (not Hanif, Zaheer or Inzi though each had their strong points, e.g. Zaheer’s superior timing etc.) as the greatest Pakistani batsman ever

I am not going to pretend that IK was a saint. In his prime he was arrogant (but he had a lot going for himself - looks/girl friends, Oxford education, well-connected family, cricket superstar status, fame, money, media hype etc. anyone would be spoiled in his position!!), even rude at times but his positives far outweigh his negatives. One of IK’s biggest problems was that he was a very shy individual (he even admits that in his book) and he was often mistaken as distant, arrogant or aloof by people who did not know him well
btw my next avatar (after the great Fazal Mahmood) is going to be Miandad :smiley:

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I'd say take one of Imran or Miandad away and we would have not win the WC (or performed like we did in late 80). While Imran was a great motivational (and authoritative) figure on and off ground, Miandad was the pure cricketing brain. It was as if Miandad's brain stops working as soon as he steps off field but when on field, I dont believe anyone of the rest of 21 playes had better understanding of the game and skills to match that.

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Both Imran and Miandad made Pakistan a force in international cricket in 80's. Both were good in the roles they played and not the other way round. Imran being a good leader and Miandad with his lively personality and lifting up the team in the field and helping batsman on the other end.

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Both are legends of Cricket and Pakistan :jhanda:

We Are Proud of Both

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The rise of Pakistan cricket in the 80s owes a lot to these two individuals

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Yeah agreed!.

-DP