state of emergency

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Reza Pahlavi Bhai

If you are so distrustful of unnamed sources, I wonder why you started threads with articles that used unnamed sources. See

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I hope that given your deep distrust of “unnamed sources”, you will now stop posting any report that contains “sources” :slight_smile:

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I did not know you actually believed rumors.

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wouldn't matter either way.

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janbaaz that is if emergency was going to be imposed. there is no proof of that. And even if it was discussed as an option, govts do all kinds of sceanrio analysis all the time, military exercises also work on scenarios that may or may not happen based on certain conditions. Even in corp world its done when diff risk assessment options are being explored and diff doomsday scenarios are evaluated.

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Last night Govt. Senator Mushaid Hussain said on TV that the same nalaiqs were behind this advice of emergency to the President who had advised him on the reference to the CJ! Question is why Musharaf listening to these nalaiq advisors.. it seems his military mind doesnt look far enough.. and there are differet interest groups around Musharaf..

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ppl give advise and wht do u wantthe listener to do "shush" them like Dr. evil? just because someone has an opinion that they share with their superiors does not mean its some policy. Options can be provided and not be discussed or be discussed and discarded. i did not know there were some nalaiq advisor proof headphones that tune the channel to fm100 when some nalaiq starts speakng.

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wait for the next installment of "In the Line of Fire: Sub Say Pehlay Pakistan"

;)

and of course, the BB-Mush meeting NEVER happened in UAE. Whoever is spreading those rumors.

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My bad I hadn’t realised that the whole world press is rumour mongering and only the president house is telling the truth. Make sure you don’t quote any source in future except the president house. :rolleyes:

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If angels can fight at Lal masjid than Musharraf can be a democrat as well.

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Nalaiqs are bound to give advice - but if its followed again and again that is trouble..

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so far any news story says that emergency was a possbility, and condi spoke to musharraf and advised against it.

now it does not mean that it was a viable possibility or a possibility that was seriously evaluated or if it was just looked upon as a scenario, or a possibility that was going to be implemented. niether does it mean that it was a possibility that was going to be implemented and was withdrawn after calls from condi.

so that is what it states.
rest of it is people's own imagination and interpretation.

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I dont see that the advise was followed, unless I am living in a parallel unverse wher emergencywas not imposed :confused;

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dont mess with musharraf he may send a hurricane your way - per shahid masood

Last person to answer this post wins!!!!
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it was followed according to Sen Mushaid Hussin in CJ case - it was almost followed in emergency as Sen Mushahid Hussain words show that the same persons were behind it.. it was averted by Condila Rice..

Promotion.
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if advise was 'followed' there would have been an emergecy, while the option may have been brought up, speculated, discussed and scenarios drawn up, it was not imposed.

i am not sure who condila rice is who averted it. condi on the other hand may have had a chat with musharraf but that was after US govt had made statements already and we can speculate whether she strong armed him or whether it as not something that was going to be done anyway

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Whole press…yes, I will from now on start believing the whole press nothing but the press so help me god.

9/11, WMD, War on terror…Al-Qaeda.

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Rice ‘sways Musharraf on emergency’

LAHORE, Pakistan (CNN) – U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice helped persuade Pakistan’s President Pervez Musharraf to hold off declaring a state of emergency, high level Pakistani government sources said Thursday.

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Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf will seek a new five-year presidential term this autumn.

Musharraf was said to be considering the move, which would bolster military rule and suspend democratic freedoms, amid security concerns that pose the biggest threat to army chief’s rule since he seized power in a coup in 1999.
U.S. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack confirmed that Rice called Musharraf early Thursday, characterizing it as a “good discussion,” without providing details.
The government sources said Rice called Musharraf – a key U.S. ally in its so-called war on terror – after media reports that he was considering imposing a state of emergency.
A recent report from the International Crisis Group said Musharraf](http://topics.cnn.com/topics/pervez_musharraf) was considering the move to retain his grip on power amid a growing opposition movement.
Islamabad said the measure was being considered amid the growing security threat in Pakistan’s lawless tribal regions.
Despite Musharraf’s apparent climbdown, senior U.S. military officials remain deeply concerned that the state of emergency remained a viable option for Pakistan’s leader, according to CNN Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr.
She said senior U.S. military officials characterized the situation in Pakistan as “topic number one,” amid concerns that Washington does not have a full grasp of what is happening within the Islamabad government or the country’s military at the moment.
“The key question for the U.S.: Is Musharraf doing this because of the internal threat or strictly as a political ploy to put himself in the best position for elections?” Starr said.
"It’s the obvious question of course … the U.S. feels it doesn’t have good answers to that. All of this has the Bush administration and military very concerned about command and control of nuclear weapons in any Pakistanis succession..
Pakistan information minister Tariq Azim said the state of emergency could still be an option, particularly if the situation deteriorated in the country’s North West Frontier Province, which borders Afghanistan.
“As you know there have been problems in the North-West Frontier of Pakistan](http://topics.cnn.com/topics/pakistan), there have been suicide bombings, three Chinese have been killed there and further we have got a situation on our borders with Afghanistan](http://topics.cnn.com/topics/afghanistan) where the ‘war on terror’ is going on,” Azim said.
Pakistan’s Supreme Court, led by its recently reinstated Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry, is set to rule on whether to lift the exile imposed on Pakistan’s former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif after he was ousted by Musharraf’s 1999 military coup.
The top court recently freed the acting president of Sharif’s opposition party from prison.

Musharraf suspended Chaudhry in March, triggering massive country-wide protests and accusations that the Pakistani leader was trying to influence the Supreme Court’s ruling on whether he can run for another five-year term under Pakistan’s constitution.
Musharraf was elected to president in a 2002 vote that was widely viewed as rigged. His five-year presidential term expires in November and he is seeking to retain his position as president and army chief.
Amid the growing threat to his rule, Musharraf has reached out to opposition leader and former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto in an attempt to consolidate his power.
The two met in Abu Dhabi in late July, according to senior officials on each side of the talks.
Despite her opposition to Musharraf, she told CNN this week that she would be open to serving as prime minister under his government if he resigns his post as chief of the country’s powerful military.
That would significantly weaken Musharraf’s grip on power in Pakistan.
The July 31 report from the International Crisis Group warned against imposing a state of emergency, saying it would be a move by Musharraf to retain the current “lame-duck parliament” so he can secure re-election “before the people can express their will by voting for the new parliament.”
Elections are scheduled sometime around the turn of the year after Musharraf’s term as president expires, as well as his army chief position. The National Assembly’s term also expires at the end of the year.
“This extreme step would only postpone the inevitable, while costing the government all claims to public support and its remaining vestiges of legitimacy,” the report stated.

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The Pakistani leader announced Wednesday he would skip a highly anticipated meeting on Thursday with his Afghan counterpart and tribal leaders, citing “engagements in the capital.”
Relations between Musharraf and Afghan President Hamid Karzai](http://topics.cnn.com/topics/hamid_karzai) have been chilly for some time, as Afghan officials have accused Pakistan of allowing Taliban and al Qaeda fighters to regroup and carve out a new safe haven along Pakistan’s largely lawless northwestern frontier.

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BB praising Musharraf’s decision not to go for Emergency and pledging to continue to negotiate with him. Good girl. :slight_smile:

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=9508

**Benazir hails decision **

NEW YORK: Pakistan People’s Party Chairperson and former prime minister Benazir Bhutto on Thursday welcomed President Gen Pervez Musharraf’s decision not to impose a state of emergency in the country. “It’s a good decision,” she said in a telephonic interview with APP, while referring to the “disturbing” rumours and press reports circulating on Wednesday that an emergency was imminent. Benazir said today’s announcement was a “positive development”. Replying to a question, she said her party would continue negotiations with the government on the restoration of democracy, adding, “We want the holding of free and fair elections in the country.”

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It seems musharraf is not in the state of urgency to declare state of emergency in the state

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'nuff said