Split-Discussion about Irshad Manji+Ijtihad

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okay i’ll clarify a bit…no sane Muslim woman from a non-middle-class background goes and rubs cheeks with salman rushdie and then thinks she is Muslim becoz her spiritual values dictate them to be…or if she does, she doesnt write from fundamentalist perspectives..:flower1:

i’ll tell u a thing or two abt the world tho…

all arguments outside the academic world are based on where u r coming from…yeah Muslim brothers, like Lajo wont understand that, some others will…
second…people write abt exactly those things that theyve been brought up with…fundamentalist my ass…

third…Islam has much more to offer than a spiritual side…that can only be gleaned if you sit and talk with proper respectable Muslims…phir shayad Islam kai saath trouble kam dikhnai lagain…

and 4th, in very simple terms…i dont need to ‘arguments’ to prove she is a whore from NO gharana…her actions are more than enough…you can say what u want to abt me, but I know more abt Islam than just the principles…

besides i also have enuff sense to know that the Muslim world knows what it is about… and what kind of people it should listen to…

third, unfortunately it was always going to be tough to tell what real Muslim respectablity means to an Ahmadi…the intellectual aspect is all they see to it…:flower1:

wasai first time i am hearing “a keep your mouth shut” from the “all for freedom brigade here”…do u know her personally by any chance…oops i didnt know manji was an ahmadi sirname?..if u do, my apologies in advance…:flower2:

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Non-Middle Class Muslim Gharana? Is that a new breed or some new sect of Islam? What sect are you from? Lowest class Muslim Gharana?

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haha…ahmadi at it again…trust u to string the 2 together…Muslim aside, the middle class non-middle class factor is all i high-lighted to show she is one hell of a marginalised idiot…do not, and i repeat, do NOT tell me…u dont know what marginalised means??..:flower1:

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Do I have to be member of the lowest class to know it?

Of all your babble, you have yet to make a point. Really.

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no u just need to be ahmadi…unintellectual aspects of Islam are bound appear like babble…:flower1:

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how about being a low class muslim?

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Proves my point cannot have a discussion without name calling. Educated or not.

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still not as bad...ahmadi is a gali for some...low class nope...

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Ghulail, to some yes, but not to Ahmadis. I would rather be called a whore than a friggin piece of crap you are (put your religion here).

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see i got no problems with ahmadis…as long as they dont tell the real Muslims whats “wrong with Islam”…the Ahmadis are entitled to thier sense of high-class self-centredness, everyone is, even the most marginalsied ppl in the world with the same attitude :)…as long as they recognise it lies outside the real circle and dont opine abt the Muslim world…:flower1:

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you think I care who you have problems with? you need some real help.

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i like the way u automatically assume i am from lucknow just becoz of my urdu and color…well i am south indian and quite proud of it… there is barely anybody around this place who makes more assumptions than u…and u wanna hear arguments from me!..i have every right to say what i feel like abt manji…its a free board, whats yr stake in her?..she is ahmadi haina?..:flower1:

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Yeah she is more ahmadi than your Phuppa Osama.

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Ghulail do you like ahmadis?

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I dated an Ahmadi chick once. She was cool.

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did she use a candle on you?

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I mean to heat the things up.

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A candle? No. She did many other things though. ;)

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that's nice. tell us more about it. Did she convert you?

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No, she was hardly religious at all. And that was good. She was really intelligent too. Sadly intelligent females are hard to come across these days.