I have come across many different religious websites ranging from Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism e.t.c…One thing found common in all these websites is Islam-bashing…Name calling and rdiculing our Holy Prophet (SAW) is a favorite of all these ‘scholarly’ supervised websites…And of course I have been to hundreds of Islamic websites looking and browsing through them but in no instance have I come across a single Islamic website where any religion is ridiculed or made fun of. I have never met an Islamic scholar or a learned person who even in the slightest defers to derogatory remarks against any faith. Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and other evangelists seem to be driven to ridicule my faith. So the question arises, what can be said of a religion which derives its spirituality from name calling any other religion? What religion or what form of faith resorts to scratching the foundations of other religions to garner in its faithful loyalty by disseminating insults at other’s beliefs? In my view the answer is simple. “Truth stands out from falsehood”, the Holy Quran states. Truth does not resort to name calling. Truth needs no crutches of falsehoods and ridicules to make itself known. Islam is the Truth. It manifests itself in the hearts of people not by ridiculing other’s faiths but by showing its tolerance of others by respecting their faiths. Any religion that harbors ill words for any other’s faith and beliefs for its own basis of strength, identity and spirituality must be weak indeed.
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*Originally posted by Lajawab: *
Any religion that harbors ill words for any other's faith and beliefs for its own basis of strength, identity and spirituality must be weak indeed.
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True that.
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*Originally posted by Lajawab: *
One thing found common in all these websites is Islam-bashing
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"All" is a very big word to use. There are thousands of religious sites on the net of which a lot don't even bother to mention Islam at all.
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....but in no instance have I come across a single Islamic website where any religion is ridiculed or made fun of.
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You definitely didn't look very well...........
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Any religion that harbors ill words for any other's faith and beliefs for its own basis of strength, identity and spirituality must be weak indeed.
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True, but other faiths do have the right to explain their faith in the most positive terms (same as Islam does), and to highlight concerns about other faiths (same as Islam does).
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*Originally posted by Lajawab: *
So the question arises, what can be said of a religion which derives its spirituality from name calling any other religion?
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Nothing can be said about religions in that regard. Its your scholars who are preaching it. They are the ones who portray a dark picture with regards to other religions. Religions themselves don't bash each other. Please be careful in your statements.
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Any religion that harbors ill words for any other's faith and beliefs for its own basis of strength, identity and spirituality must be weak indeed.
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There you go again...I don't think any religion specifically says anything about Islam.
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Islam is the Truth.
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I think that statement in itself is pretty arrogant and belittles other religions.
pure science we all have agree and law of physics same for all humans
and other forms of life faith is some thing different subject to interpretation. have you ever heard of two physics sceintists killing
each other over some theory?
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Islam is the Truth.
I think that statement in itself is pretty arrogant and belittles other religions.
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janab e Boss, itni qadghaneiN bhi nai lagani chaiay logoN ke bolne pe.
Religion A never says as part of its basic teachings that religion B is wrong but then religion A never stops short of proclaiming that its the truest of all religions either (so does the religion B). Without making this claim, how can a religion present itself as the champion of spirituality and the nijaat-dahinda of humanity?
Surely, we dont see any religion asking its followers to go join some other faith because it thinks quite lowly of itself, or do we?
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"All" is a very big word to use. There are thousands of religious sites on the net of which a lot don't even bother to mention Islam at all.
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Agreed. But show show me a Christian site which doesn't...
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You definitely didn't look very well...........
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Agreed. But show me a Muslim site which does...
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True, but other faiths do have the right to explain their faith in the most positive terms (same as Islam does), and to highlight concerns about other faiths (same as Islam does).
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There is a difference between explanation and comparison. Like I said, when any religion was given to mankind there was no comparison to any other religion nor were the ideologies discussed. When Jesus (AS) came did he pick up on any religion? He didn't. He brought the truth and did not pick up on anyone else's beliefs...Like I said, no crutches...
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*Originally posted by BoSS: *
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Nothing can be said about religions in that regard. Its your scholars who are preaching it. They are the ones who portray a dark picture with regards to other religions. Religions themselves don't bash each other. Please be careful in your statements.
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Of course you have instances of many Islamic scholars who dissed Christianity and wouldn't mind putting it up here for all to see. On the other hand I would be more than glad to put up words from your scholar's mouths.
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There you go again...I don't think any religion specifically says anything about Islam.
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Of course it doesn't, but scholars are humans, aren't they? And humans will promelgate what they have been taught, won't they? So of course your scholars preach what they practice, don't they? Many instances...Will be happy to share many instances from the mouths of scholars...
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I think that statement in itself is pretty arrogant and belittles other religions
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I wear black shoes and wear a silver ring. What's so arrogant about this statement. It's just a matter of fact...:)
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Surely, we dont see any religion asking its followers to go join some other faith because it thinks quite lowly of itself, or do we?
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Nope we don't have any such expectations. However, if the statement was phrased as 'Islam is a possible truth'..it would have been fair with everyone not just the muslims.
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I wear black shoes and wear a silver ring. What's so arrogant about this statement. It's just a matter of fact...
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Belief Systems are not facts. Get you facts straight. :-)
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This site makes you a liar…as well as this site.
Since I proved you wrong, I’m sure by doing your own legwork on the net, you will find that you were also wrong about no Islamic sites being derogatory to other religions.
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Please don’t call me a liar old man…I may be misinformed and I may be wrong, which I am not, but calling me a liar is quite insulting…The sites which you have provided are specific ‘church’ sites, not evangelical nor are they those which propagate your religion…Churches are usually community oriented and have little to do with religious comparisons or explanations and rarely go out of their jurisdictional boundaries hence no mention of Islam…As for me doing the ‘legwork’, why should I do it? I made a statement and you countered it, so YOU sould provide the necessary proofs of your counter claims, not me…
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Just the point I wish to make: Words like ALL and NONE is extremely powerful words and should be used with caution. You did not differentiate, you called ALL Christian sites as culprits. The sites I gave you ARE Christian sites. They proof that you stated an untruth. Stating untruths is to lie. Sorry if the judgment seem too harsh for you, I normally don’t call people names. For that I ask forgiveness. I only did it after I had prompted you by indicating that you might have erred - whereby you decided to be smug about it. Peace offering? ![]()
BTW: What do you call someone that tell untruths deliberately?
A Politician :D
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A Politician :D
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So true! :)
So how is your political career shaping, young man?