Re: Speed of light and Quran (Agnosts and Atheists)
Time Dilation
For an object to move it needs to accelerate**;** but acceleration causes clocks to run slower**, the stronger the acceleration the slower the clock. **
The Quran states another verse in which angels traveling at a certain velocity, appear to experience slower time than humans. But this agrees with Einstein’s theory of special relativity, which says that a faster moving object appears toexperience slower time**. **Moslems use Einstein’s theory of special relativity with the following verse in the Quran to assert that angels indeed accelerate up to the speed of light:
70:4 The angels and the Spirit ascend to Him in a day, the measure of which is fifty thousand years.
Here angels will experience 1 day while humans will measure it as 50,000 years (time vs. time and not time vs. distance as the previous lunar verse). However, according to the theory of special relativity, given this time difference (time dilation), we can calculate the speed at which that object traveled. We can verify if those angels really accelerate up to the speed of light, as claimed by Moslems, or not. Outside gravitational fields it is:
So let’s insert the Moslem claims and see if their angels really accelerate up to the speed of light or not. Insert dates from this verse ‘The angels and the Spirit ascend to Him in a day, the measure of which is fifty thousand years’ into the formula:
v = 299792.4579999994 km / s
This time dilation (time difference) shows that angels indeed accelerate to relativistic speeds; outside gravitational fields this is the same speed calculated from the previous lunar verse also outside gravitational fields
This time dilation could also occur when angels travel by wormholes. An observer outside gravitational fields sees the angels passing by him at 99.99999…% of the speed of light (relativistic speeds), that is at 299792.457999…km/s. But when those angels enter the gravitational field of a wormhole this observer still sees those angels entering the wormhole at 99.99999…% of the speed of light but that would no longer be at 299792.457999…km/s. This is because the speed of light is a variable depending upon the reference frame of the observer and not always 299792.458 km/s. If he sees the speed of light near a wormhole at 10 meters/sec, for example, then he would see those angels traveling at only 9.999999…meters/sec (flapping their wings in slow motion, reddish in color and very dim).
Gravitational Fields
Clocks run slower in stronger gravitational fields (near bigger mass).
Moslems believe that Paradise and Hell are both much bigger and much more massive than Earth (but still much smaller than God’s Throne). **The theory of general relativity says that time should pass slower near an object more massive than Earth (clocks run slower in stronger gravitational fields). **So according to general relativity, time should pass in Paradise/Hell much slower than on Earth. Moslems say that this is what Allah says. It is stated in the Quran that 1 day in Paradise/Hell measures a 1000 years on Earth:
[Quran 22.47]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/dispTargam.asp?l=eng&t=frn&nType=1&nSora=22&nAya=47) They challenge you to bring forth that torture [in Hell] and Allah will not break His promise; a day of your Lord [Paradise/Hell promise] is like a thousand years of what you count.
Here God promises those who do not believe in Hell and punishment that each day of their torture in Hell will measure a thousand years on Earth. So according to the Quran, time passes faster on Earth than in Paradise/Hell. But this agrees with the theory of general relativity which says that time passes slower near bigger mass. Paradise and Hell are much more massive than Earth and time should pass there much slower than on Earth.
Christians believe that God created the universe in 6 earthly days and rested on the 7th. Moslems believe that 6 days passed at God’s Throne but we experienced **13.5 billion years on Earth:
**Moslems believe that God is not bound to His Throne; rather He created it and set it as a reference. The Quran says that God’s Throne is even wider than the whole universe; so how about the mass of God’s Throne? God’s Throne is much more massive than Earth. Time should pass there much slower than on Earth. The theory of general relativity explains why time passes slower at God’s Throne than on Earth. General relativity explains why 6 days passed at God’s Throne but we measured it as 13.5 billion years (that is each day at God’s Throne measures around 2.25 billion years on Earth).
Science says that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old and that the universe is 13.5 billion years old. This places the age of Earth at one third the age of the universe (4.5 bln/13.5 bln = 1/3). Moslems say that this is what Allah says. The Quran says that in God’s Throne time Earth is 2 days old while the Heavens and Earth and everything in between are 6 days old:
[Quran 50.38]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/dispTargam.asp?l=eng&t=frn&nType=1&nSora=50&nAya=38) We [Allah] created the heavens and the Earth and all what’s between them in six days, and We were not touched by fatigue.
[Quran 41.9]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/dispTargam.asp?l=eng&t=frn&nType=1&nSora=41&nAya=9) Say: “Is it that you deny Him [Allah] who created the Earth in two days? And you claim others to be equal to Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds.”
In God’s Throne time, Earth is 2 days old while the Heavens and Earth and everything in between are 6 days old. This makes the age of Earth to be one third the age of the universe (2/6 = 1/3). Similarly in Earth time, the age of Earth is 4.5 billion years while the age of the universe is 13.5 billion years; this is also one third (4.5 bln/13.5 bln = 1/3). So it is the same ratio in Earth time or in God’s Throne time.
The Christian Bible puts the creation of Earth on day one; making the age of Earth equal to the age of the universe)
So according to the Quran
Paradise/Hell > Earth
The smaller the mass, the faster the time
**Pulsars and Black Holes
**General relativity predicted the formation of black holes from neutron stars. As more matter falls into a neutron star its mass increases; and as its mass increases its gravity increases. A point will be reached where gravity would have grown so much that not even light could escape, thus a black hole forms.
Most neutron stars discovered today are in the form of radio pulsars. Radio pulsars are neutron stars that emit radio waves. We can simply connect a radio telescope to a loud speaker and hear a pulsar. Pulsars sound like someone persistently knocking. Click here and listen to a slow knocking pulsar. Click here and listen to a fast knowcking pulsar.
So in short, we can hear a pulsar knock; and if matter continues to fall into this pulsar a black hole will eventually form. Moslems say that this is what Allah says. The Quran describes a star by “The one who knocks” and says that it is “The one who makes a hole”.
[Quran 86.1-3]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=86&nAya=1&t=frn) And the heaven and the “Knocker” (Tarek in Arabic) 2 How could you know about the “Knocker”? 3 The piercing star (Thakeb in Arabic).
The Arabic word “Thukb” means hole; “Thakeb” means the one who makes the hole. The Quran is describing a knocking star that makes a hole.
26:2-6 These are the verses of a clarifying Book. 3 You might be frustrated that they don’t believe; 4 If We wish, We hand down from the heaven a sign (proof); their necks to it remain subdued. 5 And every new revelation they were given from The Most Gracious (Allah) they dismissed. 6 They disbelieved (the Quran), so they will receive the news of what they have be
**Wormholes (Length Contraction)
**Look up to the night sky and select a star as a destination. Can any human reach this star by just walking few steps?
General relativity explained a mechanism to contract this huge distance into few meters. Albert Einstein called this mechanism ‘bridges’ in space-time. Today, scientists call them wormholes. A wormhole would act as a shortcut connecting two distant regions in the universe.
A wormhole contracts the distance between two doorways placed separately anywhere in the universe. Example, consider a galaxy 100 million light years away. When you look today from Earth to that galaxy, you will not see it as it is today, but rather as it was 100 million years ago. This is because light took 100 million years to travel all that distance. But if you take a journey inside a wormhole from Earth to that galaxy, you would reach that galaxy today. So when you reach it today, you will see it as it is today, not as it was 100 million years ago. So if you use a wormhole, events at that galaxy (your destination) would appear as if in fast forward (from 100 million years ago till today).
When you reach that galaxy today and look back at Earth, you would not see Earth as it is today; instead you would see Earth as it was 100 million years ago (you would see the dinosaurs). This is because light took 100 million years to reach there. So as you use a wormhole, events at Earth (your departure) would appear as if in fast rewind (from today till 100 million years ago).
On the return journey, events on Earth (destination) would appear as if in fast forward (from 100 million years ago till today); while the events at that galaxy (departure) would appear as if in fast rewind (from today till 100 million years ago). **This is not time travel; this is just a consequence of the length contraction inside a wormhole
**Scientists know how a wormhole works but have never actually used one. Do you remember how a frictionless roller coaster works? That is, you start high and slow then you go down and fast but when you come back up again to the previous height you return to your previous slow speed? Well, the wormhole is the most efficient roller coaster you can imagine. Energy is not required to move through the wormhole, that is, you can simply switch off your rockets. Gravity accelerates you and pulls you through and then expels you the other side. You will feel like being swept by waves at the beach and nothing more.
On your way through, gravity causes your clock to run slower and your ruler to shrink. Distant observers see you accelerating to relativistic speeds; as a result, your energy (and mass) increase dramatically in their view; but when you get out the other side everything returns back to normal (your clock, ruler…).
Allah gave this method of transportation to his angels throughout the universe. The Quran calls them ‘Maarej’ and describes how angels use them for long distance travel. Today Moslems know that these ‘Maarej’ is what scientists call wormholes:
[Quran 70.1-4]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/dispTargam.asp?l=eng&t=frn&nType=1&nSora=70&nAya=1) Someone asked about the penalty that will befall 2 the unbelievers; (A penalty) that has none to ward off; 3 (a penalty) from Allah (who owns) wormholes Maarej in Arabic] 4 The angels and the Spirit ascend to Him in a day, the measure of which is fifty thousand years.
Any object passing through this wormhole will also experience this same time dilation (one day inside wormhole vs. 50,000 years on Earth) and not just those angels. **This time dilation does not say how long it takes you to cross the wormhole, it just says that when you pass through the wormhole you age by this ratio.
**God says that those wormholes are doors in the heaven that contract interstellar distances into walking distances; the resulting scenery is bizarre: God says that those who do not believe in the message will not believe it even if He showed them a bigger sign. He created beautiful towering structures in the heavens. If He opens for those nonbelievers a door in heaven and lets them continue passing through it to those distant structures, they would not believe that they really got there by simply walking few steps. Instead they would think that they are just optical illusions:
[Quran 15.13-16]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/dispTargam.asp?l=eng&t=frn&nType=1&nSora=15&nAya=13) They do not believe the Message, like those who preceded them; 14 Even if We [Allah] opened upon them from the heaven a door and they continued passing through it 15 they would say ‘Our sight is bedazzled, rather we have been bewitched’ 16 It is We [Allah] who have made towering structures in the heavens and made them beautiful for beholders. 17 And We protected them from every evil spirit accursed.
Here, they wouldn’t believe their own eyes thinking that what they see is not real. They wouldn’t believe that they got to those heavenly structures by simply walking few steps. But God insists that what they see is real and not illusions (that is, they really got there).
The Quran says that those heavenly doors are galactic shortcuts to distant places in the universe. Angels guard those heavenly doors ‘from every evil spirit accursed’. Moslems believe that angels use these doors for long distance travel. Angels can accelerate up to the speed of light for domestic travel; but they use these wormholes to reach any place in the universe before you finish reading this sentence.
Moslems also believe that wormholes are not strictly for the use of angels. Their prophet used a wormhole once in the ‘Israa & Meraaj’ (Meraaj is singular of Maarej) (Quran 17.1).
See: The Quran describes the doorways of a wormhole like two shells, exactly like modern science: Islam & Life on other Planets.
[Quran 34.6]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/dispTargam.asp?l=eng&t=frn&nType=1&nSora=34&nAya=6) And those who have received knowledge (scientists) will see that what have been sent down to you from your Lord (the Quran) is the Truth, and that it guides to the Path of the Exalted, Worthy of all praise.
**Dark Matter and Gravitational Lensing
**Scientists have just confirmed the existence of Dark Matter. This mysterious Dark Matter provides the bulk of gravity that holds galaxies (not the regular matter that forms stars and planets). This Dark Matter has weird collision properties (collisionless). Simply put: we cannot see Dark Matter nor collide with it but we can detect its gravity.
According to the Quran, we cannot see nor collide with Jinn but they have weight:
[Quran 55.31]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSora=55&nAya=31&nSeg=1&l=eng&t=frn) We [Allah] will settle your affair, both you of weight (man and jinn)
The Jinn have weight means that we can detect their gravity and they can detect our gravity. So according to the Quran we cannot see the Jinn nor collide with them but we can detect their gravity.
Just as the Jinn is of different type that we cannot see nor collide with but we can detect their gravity, there are six other Heavens that we cannot see nor collide with either but we can detect their gravity, superimposed above the visible one:
[Quran 41.12]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/dispTargam.asp?l=eng&t=frn&nType=1&nSora=41&nAya=12) So [Allah] decreed them as seven heavens (one above the other) in two days and revealed to each heaven its orders. And We [Allah] adorned the lowest heaven with lights, and protection. Such is the decree of the Exalted; the Knowledgeable.
According to the Quran, only the lowest heaven has visible light. This means that this Dark Matter exists in the six Heavens superimposed above the lowest one. Also according to the Quran, each of these remaining six Heavens is of a different type and each has its own planets like Earth:
Quran 65.12] Allah is the one who created seven Heavens and from Earth like them (of corresponding type); [Allah’s] command descends among them so that you may know that Allah is capable of anything and that Allah knows everything.
Earth is not a unique planet in Islam. Other planets like Earth do exist throughout the other six Heavens. It is just that we cannot see them nor collide with them but we can detect their gravity.
General relativity predicted gravitational lensing, that is, the gravitational field generated by a galaxy causes the light passing through it to bend (change direction). Since this Dark Matter does not emit any light, scientists can only map its location by using gravitational lensing, that is, by detecting where light is bending in places where it shouldn’t. In this image a single galaxy emits light that gets bent by dozens of invisible dark matter galaxies:
[Quran 67.3-4]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=67&nAya=3&t=frn) [Allah] is the one who created seven superimposed Heavens. You do not see variations in the formations of the Compassionate, so redirect your sight, do you see any creation? 4 Then redirect your sight again, your vision returns to you in defeat and regret.
Today they looked again and found those creations indeed
Dark Energy, Redshifting and Expanding Universe
Science says that the universe was created in a Big Bang 13.5 billion years ago, is still expanding today, and billions of years from now it might collapse by its own gravity with a Big Crunch. Moslems say that this is what Allah says. The Quran says that on the first day of creation, God made the heavens and the Earth meshed together, tight and compact (Big Bang), continues to expand it into the universe we know today and at the last day God will recompress it into it’s original state (Big Crunch).
About the first day (Big Bang), Allah says:
[Quran 21.30]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/dispTargam.asp?l=eng&t=frn&nType=1&nSora=21&nAya=30) Do not those who disbelieve see that the heavens and the Earth were meshed together then We tore them apart? And then We made of water everything living? Would they still not believe?
About the expanding universe, Moslems say that Allah told them about this expansion 1400 years before it was discovered:
[Quran 51.47]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/dispTargam.asp?l=eng&t=frn&nType=1&nSora=51&nAya=47) And the heaven, We built it with craftsmanship and We are still expanding.
Scientists just confirmed the existence of “Dark Energy”, a mysterious repulsive force that acts in opposite to gravity. As the distance increases the attractive gravitational force decreases but this mysterious repulsive force increases. This repulsive force is pushing galaxies apart; the greater the distance the greater the repulsion. Scientists today do not know what this “Dark Energy” is, but they know that it is causing the entire universe to expand at an increasing rate. Do you remember how a rose opens up? That is, the outer petals move outwards more than the inner petals?
Imagine that those petals have galaxies on them and that we are at the center of the rose. Now imagine this rose opening up; the farther out the petals are the faster their recession away from the center (where we are). Well this is exactly how the universe expands around us; the farther out galaxies are from us the faster their recession away from us.
[Quran 55.37]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=55&nAya=37&t=frn) If the heavens tore open like a colorful rose…
Here God assures skeptics about Paradise: if the heaven tore open like this then Paradise will as surely contain so and so…
Today we know for sure that this is how galaxies are rushing away from us from redshifting of their light; the more distant galaxies are the more reddish their light appears to us (the stronger their red means the faster they are receding away from us). Observers anywhere in the universe see the universe expanding away from them the same way (like a rose). Hence everyone in the universe thinks that he is at the center of the universe. This is because the Big Bang did not have a center. See if you continue walking on Earth in the same direction you will circle Earth and eventually come back to where you started; right? Similarly when you continue traveling through the universe in the same direction you might come back to where you started; we still don’t know this for sure. But what we are sure of is that any observer in the universe sees the universe expanding away from him the same way: like a rose.
About the last day (Big Crunch), Allah promises:
[Quran 21.104]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/dispTargam.asp?l=eng&t=frn&nType=1&nSora=21&nAya=104) On the day when We will fold the heaven, like the folder compacts the books, and as We originated the first creation We shall return it; a promise (binding on Us); surely We will deliver.
Here God promises to make this Big Crunch not by gravity but rather by folding the Heavens like a book, that is, by the same mechanism He controls wormholes. This means that this Big Crunch can begin and end in a fraction of a second!
You might question how could this Big Crunch happen in just a fraction of a second. Wouldn’t that be faster than the speed of light? Isn’t that a contradiction with special relativity which says that nothing can go faster than the speed of light? Well yes it is faster than the speed of light, but the Big Bang itself turned out to be faster than the speed of light! The Big Bang started from a cosmic singularity and then expanded much faster than speed of light. During the Big Bang a process called “INFLATION” occurred. A fraction of a second (10-38 sec) after the cosmic singularity was created inflation started. During inflation, the size of our observable universe increased from an initial size smaller than the size of an atomic nucleus (10-23 millimeters in diameter) to approximately the size of our galaxy (one hundred thousand light years across). The duration of this inflation was only a fraction of a second (10-35 sec). So the Big Bang itself was a zillion times faster than the speed of light. This is not a contradiction with special relativity because spacetime itself expanded. In God’s promise of the Big Crunch spacetime itself will contract. The Big Crunch is God’s promise, but from the description in the Quran of how He is going to do it we know that it is the exact reverse process of the Big Bang. So if God was not the creator of the universe then how did He know the process of the Big Bang?
After this Big Crunch is over the entire universe would be squeezed into a space smaller than the size of an atomic nucleus; just as it all started in the Big Bang.
Also after this Big Crunch is over, God promises to recreate those heavens and Earth once more before Judgment Day:
[Quran 14.48]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=14&nAya=48&t=frn) On the day when Earth will be swapped by another Earth and so will be the heavens; and all (creatures) will resurrect[FONT=Times New Roman] before the One Dominant God.
[Quran 36.81]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=36&nAya=81&t=frn) Is He not, who created the heavens and the Earth, capable of creating others like them? 82 Yes, indeed! He is the All-Knowing Creator. 83 His command, if He wanted a thing, is that He only says to it, “BE” and it becomes! So glorified is He in whose hands is the dominion of all things, and to Him you shall be returned.
Celestial Motion
An observer on Earth sees the path of the moon as circular around Earth, right? But due to the motion of the Earth-moon system around the sun, distant observers would see the path of the moon as a sine wave around the sun. Do you remember how fabric is woven? That is if you trace a thread it would make a sine wave?
This is exactly how distant observers would see the path of moons around planets around stars and the path of planets around stars around…
[Quran 51.7]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=51&nAya=7&t=frn) And the heaven that has paths of weaves (Hubuk in Arabic).
Here God swears by the Heaven that has celestial paths that make weaves. (Hubuk is plural of **Habka **which means a weave).
As the massive celestial bodies move in space, their gravity sucks in the small debris of rocks and gas. Do you know how to sweep the ground? Well this is how planets and stars sweep their paths.
[Quran 81.15-16]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSora=81&nAya=15&nSeg=1&l=eng&t=frn) So I [Allah] shall swear by the planets that recede, 16 that move, that sweep (Kunnas in Arabic).
“Miknasa” in Arabic means a sweeping brush. “Kannasa” is the past tense of sweep. “Kunnas” means those who sweep. God swears by the planets that move and sweep
**Ice in Comets
**Water on Earth actually came from outer space, particularly from ice in comets. When those comets enter our atmosphere, the heat generated on entry vaporizes this ice into the atmosphere. Moslems say that this is what Allah says. God says that there are mountains in heaven that have ice inside them. Those mountains could fall on Earth making a very bright flash.
[Quran 24.43]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/dispTargam.asp?l=eng&t=frn&nType=1&nSora=24&nAya=43) Can’t you see that Allah makes the clouds move gently, then joins them together, then makes them into a pile? Then you see rain come out from within? And He [Allah] sends down from heaven mountains with ice inside them; that strike whomever He wishes or miss whoever He wishes; Its’ flash almost blinds you.
**Rotation of Earth Slowing Down
**Earth is a sphere. Moslems say that this is what Allah says. The Quran says that when the night and the day overlap, they make a ball (sphere):
[Quran 39.5]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=39&nAya=5&t=frn) [Allah] Created the heavens and the Earth in truth. He overlaps **Yukawer **in Arabic] the night over the day and overlaps Yukawer] the day over the night, and enslaved the sun and the moon. Everything moves to a prerecorded destiny [on the Preserved Tablet]. Is He not the Exalted, the Forgiver?
The Arabic word “Kura” means ball; its verb “Yukawer” means: to make into a ball. The Quran says that the overlapping of the night and the day makes a sphere (ball).
Science says that the rotation of Earth is slowing down, that is, days are getting longer. Moslems say that this is what Allah says. The Quran says that Allah persistently asks more of the day and more of the night, that is, for the day to get longer:
[Quran 7.54]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSora=7&nAya=54&nSeg=1&l=eng&t=frn) And your Lord, Allah, who created the Heavens and the Earth in six days and then settled on the Throne (as reference). [Allah] Covers the night with the day, asks for it persistently; and the sun and the moon and the stars enslaved by His orders. Is this not His creation and His command? Blessed be Allah the Lord of all the worlds
**Tectonics
**Earth’s crust has been slowly moving for billions of years. Not only mountains are still slowly moving but also whole continents. Moslems say that this is what Allah says:
[Quran 27.88]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/dispTargam.asp?l=eng&t=frn&nType=1&nSora=27&nAya=88) You see the mountains and think they are firmly fixed: but they are moving away just like the clouds are moving away: (such is) the artistry of Allah, Who disposes of all things in perfect order: for He knows all what you do.
**Atmospheric Pressure
**Atmospheric pressure decreases with altitude; The higher the altitude the more difficult breathing becomes. Moslems say that this is what Allah says. The Quran says that as we ascend to the sky it becomes more difficult for us to breath:
[Quran 6.125]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/dispTargam.asp?l=eng&t=frn&nType=1&nSora=6&nAya=125) Those whom Allah wants to guide, He opens their chests to Islam; And those whom He wants to leave astray, He makes their chests tight and constricted, as if they are ascending to the sky: Such is the penalty of Allah on those who refuse to believe
It is the angels who execute Gods orders:
[Quran 79.5]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=79&nAya=5&t=frn) Execute orders (Mudaberat Amran in Arabic)
“Mudaberat” in Arabic means execute and “Amr” means order. These exact two words are also used in describing the rate at which God’s orders are executed:
[Quran 32.5]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/dispTargam.asp?l=eng&t=frn&nType=1&nSora=32&nAya=5) (Allah) Rules the cosmic affair (Yudaber Al-Amr in Arabic) from the heavens to the Earth. Then this affair travels to Him a distance in one day, at a measure of one thousand years of what you count.
Also, the Arabic word “Araj” means a man with a lame leg. “Yaruj” means a man stepping. The Quran is describing the speed at which God’s orders (Amr) are carried out and literally says that it is “at a measure (Mekdar) of one thousand years of what you count”. Those people back then followed the lunar calendar and counted 12 lunar months each year. Since this verse is emphasizing steps and since stepping has two quantitative attributes: time and distance, then the first part of this verse is describing time and the second part is describing distance. So the orders are carried out in that time and that distance.
About the Preserved Tablet:[FONT=Times New Roman]
[Quran 85.21-22]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/dispTargam.asp?l=eng&t=frn&nType=1&nSora=85&nAya=21) But it is a Glorious Quran. 22 Inscribed on a Preserved Tablet.
Moslems believe that Archangel Gabriel got the Quran to their prophet from this Preserved Tablet:
[Quran 15.8-11]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/dispTargam.asp?l=eng&t=frn&nType=1&nSora=15&nAya=8) We only send down the angels in Truth; if they were not (in truth), no respite would they have 9 We have sent down the Message; and We will preserve it 10 We did send Messengers before you among the religious sects of the old 11 But never came a Messenger to them but they mocked him
The Quran and all the instructions to all angels were inscribed on this Preserved Tablet before the creation of Earth started. They commute to and from this Tablet to get their orders from God. The angels were originally made of light, and the speed at which they commute to and from this Tablet turned out to be the known speed of light.
[2]](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/l%20head_4) In the isolated Earth-moon system (no sun) all external forces are screened out. This reveals the intrinsic characteristics, relations and capabilities of the system, that is, what the Earth-moon system can do on its own without any external forces.
Sun’s gravitational field along with Earth’s motion around the sun produce a net rotational force on the lunar orbit (like torque around Earth). Without this gravitational twist the moon’s isolated orbital length would only be L’ = Lcosø. This is because the total energy of the lunar orbit (kinetic + potential) is the vectorial sum of the energy acquired from Earth’s spin plus the energy acquired from this force.
For the Earth-moon system to be outside gravitational fields then the distance to the sun has to increase to infinity. And as the distance to the sun increases to infinity the lunar orbit loses this twist; but this also means that the moon would no longer have enough kinetic energy to stay long at the compounded radius R and isolated velocity V’ = Vcosø (too high too slow), instead it starts a spiral descent to the isolated radius R’ = Rcosø and accelerates to a final velocity of
FPRIVATE "TYPE=PICT;ALT=F"is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the speed of light co is measured. Simply put: Light appears to travel slower in stronger gravitational fields (near bigger mass).
You can find a more sophisticated derivation later by Einstein (1955) from the full theory of general relativity in the weak field approximation:
**‘The Meaning of Relativity’, A. Einstein, Princeton University Press (1955). **
See pages 92-93, eqn (107); the variable velocity of light expressed in co-ordinates is:
Simply put: Light appears to travel slower near bigger mass (in stronger gravitational fields). A non-mathematical discussion of this can be found in:
**‘The Riddle of Gravitation’, Peter G. Bergmann, Charles Scribner’s Sons, NY (1987). **
See pages 65-66. Bergmann takes the deflection of light by the gravitational field of a star as evidence of the decreased speed of light in a gravitational field.
You can also find modern direct derivations that lead to the same results by Einstein in 1911:
**‘Relativity, Gravitation, and Cosmology’, T. Cheng, Oxford University Press (2005). **
See pages 48-49, eqn (3.39):
In conclusion, the velocity of light in a gravitational field is not a constant, but rather a variable depending upon the reference frame of the observer; what one observer sees as true another observer sees as false. The only observers that can actually agree that the speed of light outside gravitational fields is 299792.458 km/s are those who are themselves outside gravitational fields.
[6]](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/l%20_ftnref7) Moslems believe that God sustains all living things. And all His commands to the angels to sustain man and animals were inscribed on the Preserved Tablet. The Quran says that not even a leaf would drop on Earth without it being previously recorded in this Preserved Tablet.
God says that He inscribed this Preserved Tablet before the creation of Earth started; He answered our prayers today (as commands for the angels on the Preserved Tablet) during the first four days when Earth was still smoke. After this He ordered Earth to form:
[Quran 41.9-12]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/dispTargam.asp?l=eng&t=frn&nType=1&nSora=41&nAya=9) Say: “Is it that you deny Him [Allah] who created the Earth in two days? And you claim others to be equal to Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds.” 10 He set on it (Earth) mountains, and bestowed it with blessings. **And [Allah] estimated all its sustenance in four days, equally for those who ask (prayers) **11 **AFTER THIS **(Thumma in Arabic) [Allah] commanded the heaven and it was still smoke. He said to it and to Earth: “Come together, willingly or unwillingly.” They said: “We do come together, in willing obedience”. 12 So [Allah] decreed them as seven heavens (one above the other) in two days and revealed to each heaven its orders. And We [Allah] adorned the lowest heaven with lights, and protection. Such is the decree of the Exalted; the Knowledgeable.
God answered our prayers today when Earth was still smoke (the first four days). After this (Thumma) God ordered Earth to form. The formation of Earth took two days. So our prayers today are already answered on the Preserved Tablet since before the formation of Earth started.
Also in the last two days, God created seven heavens, one above the other, but we can only see the lights of the lowest one. The six Heavens superimposed above the lowest one with visible light contain the elusive Dark Matter.
[7]](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/l%20_ftnref5) The Christian Bible says that the universe was created less than ten thousand years ago. Science says that the universe was created 13.5 billion years ago. We can actually observe galaxies 13 billion light years away; that is, light already traveled 13 billion years before it reached us. This alone proves their Bible wrong. To fix this problem, they need the speed of light to decay (to slow down over time); that is, light was faster and covered that distance in much shorter time. But the theory of relativity says that the speed of light is constant over time (no decay)… Since the theory of relativity contradicts their Bible, ***they need the theory of relativity to be wrong for their Bible to be correct.
***Some Christians claim that Quran 32.5 (angels travel in one day the same distance that the moon travels in a 1000 lunar years) is a restatement of this Bible verse:
(2Peter 3:8)](2 peter 3:8-9 NIV; - But do not forget this one thing, dear - Bible Gateway) But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, AND A THOUSAND YEARS ARE LIKE A DAY. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
Obviously this verse is talking about God’s patience, but some Christians say that it predated the scientific miracles of the Quran. The first problem with this Christian claim is that the Quran is referring to the angels moving and not God moving. Here in this Bible verse God has to be moving. And assuming that God is moving, not only this verse does not talk about any distance traveled but also Christians and the Jews before them used solar years. The Jews used to add a 13th lunar month every few years to make up for the difference between the lunar and the solar year. The calculations based on their standards fails to reveal the speed of light.[FONT=Times New Roman] Second problem, this verse describes time vs. time (and not time vs. distance). So if this time difference (time dilation) is due to the mass of God’s Throne then the Bible got it wrong as well: 1 day at God’s Throne should measure 2.25 billion years on Earth; instead the Bible says “With the Lord a day is like a thousand years”. Here the bible missed by a whole 2,250,000,000 years! The other part says “AND A THOUSAND YEARS ARE LIKE A DAY”, that is, 1000 years by God measures 1 day on Earth. Here the Bible got it in reverse! So how small is God’s Throne? Even if God’s Throne is microscopic, Earth is not massive enough to generate this time dilation.[FONT=Times New Roman]
Third problem, if this verse was referring to time dilation due to God’s movement then it got it all wrong as well. For an object to move it needs to accelerate. But acceleration causes clocks to run slower, the stronger the acceleration the slower the clock; hence the faster moving object experiences slower time and not the other way round. In this verse in the Bible it is man who experiences the slower time hence travels faster than God! Man experiences less time of 1 day (travels fast) and God experiences more time of 1000 years (travels slow). This verse practically says that once God travels faster than man but immediately follows it with a fatal mistake that man travels faster than God. So no, the Bible got it wrong in every possible way.[FONT=Times New Roman]
But the Bible did indeed describe sunlight: Common sense says that sunlight illuminates Earth and that without sunlight darkness will cover the Earth. Is there anything simpler? But the Bible says something else: In Genesis 1:1-31, the Bible explains how the sun is related to day and night. The Bible says that on the first day God created the light and darkness on Earth. The first evening came and the first morning followed. But God did not create the sun until the fourth day, specifically after three evenings and three mornings. So three evenings and the three mornings occurred on Earth before there was a sun. So according to the Bible daylight occurs without the sun![FONT=Times New Roman]
The Bible also described genetics: While today’s scientists have confirmed that animals inherit their colors and stripes from their parents (through DNA), the Bible says something else: In Genesis 30:37-42, the Bible explains how baby goats get their streaked colors: If their parents were mating AND LOOKING at upright rods then the baby goats will have stripes; while if their parents were mating BUT NOT LOOKING at upright rods then the baby goats will not have stripes![FONT=Times New Roman]
[Quran 2.23-24]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/dispTargam.asp?l=eng&t=frn&nType=1&nSora=2&nAya=23) And if you were in doubt about what We have revealed to Our servant, then bring forth a book like the Quran; and call your witnesses (scientists) to prove it contrary to Allah, if you were truthful. 24 But you cannot and will never (be able). So beware of a fire whose fuel is men and stones prepared for blasphemers.
[Quran 42.14]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=42&nAya=14&t=frn) They only disbanded after they received knowledge (of their Bible) fallaciously among them. And if it were not a word from your Lord [Allah] that postponed it to a later date, it would have been all settled among them then. And those who inherited the Book (the Bible) from them are in great suspicion of it. 15 Therefore call them (to the Quran) and straighten your ways as you are ordered and don’t follow their passions and say: “I believe in what Allah revealed of the Book (The Quran) and I was ordered to be just among you (both Christians and Jews); Allah is our Lord and your Lord, we have our actions and you have your actions, no argument between us and you, Allah brings us together and to Him we are (all) destined.”
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[Quran 6.108]](http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0&l=eng&nSora=6&nAya=108&t=frn) Do not curse those who call (to worship) other than Allah, so that they don’t curse Allah out of spite and ignorance. This is how We [Allah] appealed to each people its own actions; then they will be brought back to their Lord [Allah] who will inform them of what they have been doing
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