MADRID, Spain (AP) Spain’s prime minister said Sunday he hopes the deteriorating situation in Iraq will serve as a warning to countries against using preemptive wars in the future.
Zapatero reiterated that he had ordered Spain’s troops home from Iraq April 18, a day after he was sworn in, ``because they should have never been sent there.‘’
If the invasion and occupation was a walk in the park and lucrative contracts were winging their way to Spain the troops would be there 'peace keeping' and keeing an eye on their interests.
Yes it's lucky the freedom struggle was succesful to date.
That's not much of a victory to be proud of though, is it?
"We're such crazy, disorganized f---s no one can stand living here!"
That's about all the plan was for the freedom fighters where Spain was concerned? What if Iraq has to face Iran or any other force on the battlefield? They'd be crushed if this is their plan. Guerrilla warfare works in certain situations, but it can never be a victory. The simple resort to such warfare is a defeat for the native society. So, yeah, these kids won by luck.. it sure wasn't by design or anything else so luck is all it can be for them.
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Vietnam?
It would take an army of a million to get the mission accomplished in Iraq, the mission being total subjugation of the Iraqi people and the looting of its assets.
Bush should have really just left Saddam in and diplomatically stooged him had he the intelligence.
The freedom struggle and guerrilla warfare in Iraq is a reaction not a pre-planned effort it is defensive and not aggressive, it can be successful, as one less invader means less chance of an innocent dying, its that simple.
There is only one aggressor/oppressor in this situation. This is not a war for the Iraqi people it is survival.
Spain pulling its troops is a victory for humanity.
Vietnam? Nope. I said for society, not ideologues.
Look at the devastation brought upon the people of Vietnam, by their own guerrillas. Both directly and indirectly the guerrillas activities made normal life an impossible thing for a long time to come. There are better ways to fight an invader. Plus, look what happens when the ideologues claim victory, further social stagnation under an unjust govt. I'd say in that regard Vietnam might be a good warning.. for the guerrillas and for the people.
‘social’ stagnation in Vietnam you do pick choice words to describe a socialist state don’t you. All ideological victories are social victories an ideology can’t exist without people.
Sure devastation was visited upon Vietnam, punitive bombing and slaughter and chemicals that poison the fabric of the nation even today.
If it’s lives that you’re talking about saving its better not to have the invaders there in the first place isn’t it?
But now that they are there in Iraq it’s a natural reflex to repel and terminate by any means possible. Only a fool would think that Iraq can be rebuilt with any degree of success while the occupiers and abusers of Iraqi innocents are so visible on a daily basis.
So a great victory for the freedom struggle yes, Spain out and calling for others to leave too, closely followed by the rest before a genuine effort can be made to restore the basic amenities.
Re: Spain pulls troops: taught a lesson by Iraqi freedom fighters
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Chotay good post but the caption is wrong. 90% of Spanish public did not support this war and Spains participation in it. They felt strongly enough to change their own government on this issue. It was very brave and showed conviction. Spanish people desertve respect for that.
I don't think any of our public would have topple their own government, for participation in a unjust war on some kaafir.
Iraqi resistanse is commendable. But they should make use of this opportunity to form a solid constitutional government and let US rebuild their nation.
They should never sell out their countries resources to Western corporations or let them dictate what they should do.
On other hand without the resistance US would never have negotiated with Iraqis, we would have just told them what we denmanded
‘social’ stagnation in Vietnam you do pick choice words to describe a socialist state don’t you. All ideological victories are social victories an ideology can’t exist without people.