Re: Sorry, I am born to a Pakistani but cannot read Urdu
I do say so. Its also called having some common sense…seems its not so common after all hunh? 
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Common sense says people should love themselves and what belongs to themselves and moreover be proud of themselves.
Common sense says people don’t commit suicide knowing they will die one day.
Common sense says a language is part of people who they are, and just like they pass on a lot of good they have, they try to pass it on to their offspring.
Common sense says, people feel proud of seeing their offspring having some of other traits like facial features, last names etc.
Common sense says it does not matter if the language will become weaker or die one day, that should not deter people to make efforts to preserve it as long as it can.
After-all the language is neutral and not to be seen as hindrance to further advancement and assimilation in to newly adopted culture.
Common sense says if there is something bad people have, then it is fine not to pass on to next generation.
Anyways: You have unconsciously been diwanized.
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Common sense also says people should learn to accept others’ choices as their choices…there is NO right or wrong answer here diwana.
Common sense also suggests a bit of caution when trying to forcefully impose yourself on other people while under the misconception that you’ve got all the right answers.
Confidence is great but overconfidence is unattractive and right now…well…your overconfidence is unattractive. 
I don’t think its a big deal to not learn Urdu…lots of people don’t and their chances of making it into heaven seem to be the same as those who do.
Culture is always given more importance than anything else in desies…I don’t like that. So I won’t be forcing it on my kids.
If you can accept that, great! If not…who cares?
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Oh and one more thing…that thing about loving yourself. Why would anyone NOT love themselves if they don’t know Urdu?
You don’t seem to understand that not every single person posting here shares your identity or closeness to Pakistan. Their identities are different and so will their choices as a result.
Your choices are not the word of God so you should be careful when trying to push your opinions on people.
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Show me where I said Urdu or Pakistan in my last post. Let alone pushed my opinion on anyone.
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Smileys thori kam parr gai iss page per… Thori c aur daalain apni posts main…
Re: Sorry, I am born to a Pakistani but cannot read Urdu
Facts are facts, opinions are opinions.
I just want to make sure that is clarified. Not just for your posts but everyone else’s posts. Opinions can be more or less relevant based on an individual’s area of expertise. Eg a doctors opinion on health vs that of an accountant.
In the end, no matter what anyone says. There are plenty of studies, and much more anecdotal evidence of heritage language loss. Anyone can raise questions about methodologies and metrics to argue about the extent, but the fact that it happens does not change. I am yet to see a study that indicates that it stays the same or does not see massive change within 2-3 generations.
So why is it important? It’s important because it is a normal occurrence and while others (not you) can do point scoring based on personal observations and opinions, data beyond one’s limited exposure is more telling. It’s normal, it happens, and that’s all there is to it.
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how ridiculous is this. most people are making the effort to carry on a good discussion and then you have people who cant make up their mind and just post inflammatory posts without a single good rebuttal. this is not 4th grade. if you ask something and people respond on-topic please have the courtesy to do the same 
Sorry, I am born to a Pakistani but cannot read Urdu
^ Who are you referring to?
Reha and diwana’s stamina (stubborness) is really astounding.
Sorry, I am born to a Pakistani but cannot read Urdu
It really is. Everyone disappeared from this thread lol.
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So, who won?
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Let’s just put it this way. Diwana doesn’t battle, he just waits for you to lose. Legend has it that he once shot a guppan with a knife on GS. Reha is a lady, so you can’t really fault her for never being wrong, but let’s not kid ourselves.
Re: Sorry, I am born to a Pakistani but cannot read Urdu
Legend also has it that you can summon diwana by googling the word google and dividing the interwebz by zero
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This need not be asked… offcours there is only one who is a winner…
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Just read these posts and beyond doubt enjoyed every bit of comments. 
There is no PERSONAL contest among posters here, not even myself and Reha.
Reason why I am still skeptical of Reha’s position in this thread is that she did not come out as honest and truthful believer of her position…
After reading some of Huntington’s article. I had no intention to spend money on it even though it is not expensive.
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I take Huntington’s article at one extreme and the study by Ruben Rumbaut at another extreme.**
http://www.popcouncil.com/pdfs/councilarticles/pdr/PDR323Rumbaut.pdf
Maybe the truth lies somewhere between these two extremes. 
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Anything divided by zero is infinity.
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Just like your ego.
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Division by zero is undefined, not infinity
Watch and observe, this is how you beat diwana. Well you can’t really beat diwana, but mark this occasion as the closest anyone ever got to beating diwana.