some questions to shias people here

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some questions to shias here
1 wht is the “story” behind 12th imam of shia and his quran
2 why they dont accept hazrat usman,hazrat abu bakr and hazrat aisha and hazrat umar
3 whts their problem with imam bukhari…
4 matam has no base in islam..whts ur shia point in this

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do gupshup search, there are DOZENSSS of threads about it.

i think this thread shud be closed before it gets ugly.

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I disagree suroor !

this thread will probably cover all the conflicts of other sects with shia sect.

so this should not be closed

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^^ .... The thread should be closed...not due to the fact that it involves shiaz..but because the points are discussed thousand of times here...do some research ..if u have any other quesry ..feel free to ask here...

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^^

I do agree with all of you somehow, (suroor_ca02, amirbilal, bao bihari). I believe Islam, the true faith is complete; and gives us everything and all the answers of our questions. However Islam never asks the new learner not to ask questions or you can search by yourself in books. A separate section in religions institutes are still working to answer all kinds of quarries of people and they never ask to stop questioning. People on internet are not with the same level experience and skills to search on internet, pertaining any issue.

We or someone else can ask Admins to close this thread because of the following two reasons.

(1) Fear of exposing truth.
(2) Getting involvement into some kind of sectarian discussion.

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since u put the questions forward to shiaas and i am not one of them, so i wont answer....
if u still wish to have my views on the issues, let me know....
i'll try to answer to the best of my knowledge....

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Here’s what i anticipate the third page of this thread will look like. Make minor modifications as necessary:

“You people actually believe that? :nook: No wonder all of you are going to hell. Have fun there. Anyone who believes that, is going to hell. None of you are Muslims. All of you will go to dozakh for believing in that. All of you are infidels. Only i am on the straight path, only i am going to heaven. The rest of you people and those people like you who believe all this garbage, are going straight to hell.”

Insert the use of profane words where appropriate.

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Re: some questions to shias people here

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*Originally posted by chalna: *
some questions to shias here
1 wht is the "story" behind 12th imam of shia and his quran
2 why they dont accept hazrat usman,hazrat abu bakr and hazrat aisha and hazrat umar
3 whts their problem with imam bukhari...
4 matam has no base in islam..whts ur shia point in this
[/QUOTE]
Asalam-o-Alakum,

These answers are given purely with the intentions that this thread would be away from any sectarian discussion. I will try my best not to hurt anybody’s feelings.

Question: wht is the "story" behind 12th imam of shia and his quran
Answer: Like other Muslims shia believe that Ullema have more understanding about Quran and Hadith than general public. Whenever a Muslim gets into trouble he must have to approach them to know about the true teachings of Islam. We all Muslims have Quran with us in book form; and we are informed about its meanings to practice Islam; considered to be enough. However the knowledge in Quran is much more than our understanding, which is beyond our scope of minds. Only those people have the complete knowledge of book, who are chosen for it by Allah. In other sense the knowledge of the book Quran with complete understanding is with them. It does not mean that we don’t have that book with us. Shia believe that among those chosen Ullema; 12 Imams of Ahle Bait(AS) possess higher rank than anyone else. 12th imam is Imam Mehdi (AS) is the present Imam and he has all the knowledge of the book. Because of our wicked and sinful life we are not able to reach him. In this condition we are able to reach other Ullema who many have link with him because of their pious lives. As per all Muslims belief whenever Allah Will Imam Mehdi (AS) will appear for a true Islamic state on earth.

2 why they dont accept hazrat usman,hazrat abu bakr and hazrat aisha and hazrat umar
Here the word “accept” is not meaningful. Accept what? Accept as Prophet?, Accept as Khalifa? Accept as Imam? What?
Everybody accepts them that they were.

3 whts their problem with imam bukhari...
Imam Bukhari was a common human being. He can do mistakes in his decisions.

4 matam has no base in islam..whts ur shia point in this
For an ACT if there is no base in islamic teachings, it doesn’t mean that its forbidden. Matam for a Shaheed and Matam for Deads(or any other lose) are two different things. Matam for a Shaheed has a base in Islam anyway.

Wasalam,

inuit

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dig up history you'll find your answers. And the emphasis is on studying and inquiring books not the words of some lame, narrow minded, dumb mullah.

I cant get it people are counting rituals and traditions as islamic, give me a break, if you assert to it - explain me the marriages pakistanians have, all the red clothings, the songs, dances etc..

As I say - study and learn for yourself then profess abt islam, let alone islam study all religions, I have read the Quran, Torah and the Bible - you will find great many linkages in them.

Currently I am studying abt the life of christ, before that I was after the fact that shaq-e-Kaaba does not fill even after repairing.

Dont post questions like these here - all you'll get are hateful answers and idiotic replies mostly, Thats muslim culture for you - follow the bandwagon then when you stop and realize your stupidity you kill the people who point em out.

I have many books which have these answers - If I posted the findings - This thread would be shut down instantly.