some questions regarding Abu Bakr thread

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Re: some questions regarding Abu Bakr thread

Peace again

Now I can address the rest of you post ...

Every statement of Muhammad (SAW) when he said it was from Allah (SWT) is so, unless he himself says that it is from himself. Every hadith? Muhammad (SAW) doesn’t give hadith. Hadith are collections of various people’s sayings about Muhammad (SAW) what he (SAW) did and what he (SAW) said.

There are two questions here:
- Do I believe that Muhammad (SAW) said whoever angers Fatimah (RA) angers him (SAW) … answer is yes.
- Do I believe Faitmah (RA) had tendency to get angry on people for incorrect reasons? … Actually I believe it is incorrect to get angry.

That would be interpretation, and interpretation always rests on our judgments there is no way that can be ratified for us to make it a point of aqeedah, we can trust our interpretations but we cannot rule out other possibilities. Besides without knowing the context to this statement we cannot know the limits to apply our interpretation. Even if we know who hurted Prophet Muhammad (SAW) it doesn’t mean that we can defame them or disrespect them, nor is it important for us to know who is righteous because we are not the Judges, Allah (SWT) is The Judge. Washi the person who, when non-Muslim martyred the uncle of Muhammad (SAW) became Muslim he was forgiven despite hurting the prophet Muhammad (SAW). Also Muhammad (SAW) had been reported to have been upset at his wives for a disagreement at times, but this does not mean that we disrespect them. We need to understand their human-ness and his ability to forgive and forget.

Also look at the wisdom in other areas of Islam where those who die in a state of injustice then their justice is given to them in the hereafter. Would it not be better for Fatimah (RA) to have extra reward in the hereafter rather than get some piece of wealth of the dunya? Do you not think that is what Allah (SWT) and his apostle (SAW) had in store for the ahl al-bayt? Is that not why Muhammad (SAW) decided to live a poor life in this world because he was not attached to it?

I get this translation:

  1. That is (the Paradise) whereof Allâh gives glad tidings to His slaves who believe (in the Oneness of Allâh Islâmic Monotheism) and do righteous good deeds. Say (O Muhammad ): "No reward do I ask of you for this except to be kind to me for my kinship with you." And whoever earns a good righteous deed, We shall give him an increase of good in respect thereof. Verily, Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Ready to appreciate (the deeds of those who are obedient to Him).

There is no certification of purity here. It is a requirement from the women of Ahl al-bayt to remain in their houses quietly and pray and obey Allah (SWT) and his Messenger (SAW) in order for them to be pure and spotless.

There is no contradiction here either. Inheritance in its legal sense is different from inherit in it’s Qur’anic sense with regard to prophethood.

19:5. "And Verily! I fear my relatives after me, since my wife is barren. So give me from Yourself an heir,

19:6. "Who shall inherit me, and inherit (also) the posterity of Ya'qûb (Jacob) (inheritance of the religious knowledge and Prophethood, not the wealth, etc.). And make him, my Lord, one with whom You are Well-pleased!".

I am not qualified to comment on hadith al-thaqalayn partly because I do not know for sure what they are referring to, Qur’an and Hadith or Qur’an and Ahl-al-bayt … and also it is not clear why ahl-al-bayt are being reminded. It seems as though we should adhere to Qur’an and take care of the family of Muhammad (SAW) as our own. They were his concerns and he voiced them. It seems also that this event had taken place after the completion of the Deen and the last ayat of the Qur’an had been revealed however other sources say it was a regular thing that was preached. Authenticity is a thing that should be left for the scholars.

This is an emotional argument there are many people in the Sunni groups who are ahl-al-bayt, but the early leaders I agree are not.

Hadith of interest … yes you are right people do pick hadith of interest they don’t look at all of them in context to one another … do they! Allah (SWT) has said the religion is perfect, not that the Qur’an is the only thing to follow. The Sunnah is that what puts the Qur’an in to context, because it is documentary evidence of how the Qur’an was put into practice by the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and the Salaf.

JazakAllah Khair no offence taken*

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