Re: some questions regarding Abu Bakr thread
[quote=“Das_Reich”]
Buddy… I am just clarifying the ideology you were using my pointing out that Abu Bakr son was with Mawla Ali and using that to show Abu Bakr status… and I was showing the contradiction in your ideology by point out the fact that Abu Bakr daughter was in a battle against Hazrat Ali A.S… and her brother… which makes your argument a bit lame… Nice try though…
BTW can you please emphasize more on what you mean by clear directives of Prophet and quran… It would be nice if you take the pains to clarify things than just make stateme ts… I am sorry but we all might not be as scholarly as you… so please do us a favor so we can benefit from all these great statements you made…
Like before i would be highly obliged if you provide some refrences the to your following source of knowledge
which no one can deny and which Imam Ali[as] always remembered despite his differences with him?
Dude if you want I can make 101 statments like that if no wants references… I would really appreciate… before you make such statements about so high personality it would be nice if you provide references… I can make so many statements also… but for now I’ll point out the following hadith from Sahih Bukhari
Sahih al-Bukhari Hadith: 5.546 (page 381):
... She (Fatimah (AS)) remained alive for six (6) months after the
death of the Prophet (PBUH). When she died, her husband Ali buried her
at night without informing Abu Bakr and he said the funeral prayer
himself ...
Brother you can’t ignore the fact that he offended Prophet by hurting Bibi Fatima Zehra S.A… I don’t want to point finger at somebody but I want to point out an hadith of Sahih Bukhari which talks about how some companions changed after Prophet P.B.U.H.
*Volume 8, Book 76, Number 585: *
Narrated Abu Hazim from Sahl bin Sa’d:
The Prophet said, “I am your predecessor (forerunner) at the Lake-Fount, and whoever will pass by there, he will drink from it and whoever will drink from it, he will never be thirsty. There will come to me some people whom I will recognize, and they will recognize me, but a barrier will be placed between me and them.” Abu Hazim added: An-Nu’man bin Abi 'Aiyash, on hearing me, said. “Did you hear this from Sahl?” I said, “Yes.” He said, " I bear witness that I heard Abu Said Al-Khudri saying the same, adding that the Prophet said: 'I will say: They are of me (i.e. my followers). It will be said, ‘You do not know what they innovated (new things) in the religion after you left’. I will say, 'Far removed, far removed (from mercy), those who changed (their religion) after me." Abu Huraira narrated that the Prophet said, “On the Day of Resurrection a group of companions will come to me, but will be driven away from the Lake-Fount, and I will say, ‘O Lord (those are) my companions!’ It will be said, 'You have no knowledge as to what they innovated after you left; they turned apostate as renegades (reverted from Islam).”
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/076.sbt.html#008.076.585
Thats a good one… We all respect Abu Bakr son for his support for Hazrat Ali A.S but as far as majalises are concerned… lets look into what quran has to say about Ahleybait
[Shakir 42:23] That is of which Allah gives the good news to His servants, (to) those who believe and do good deeds. Say: I do not ask of you any reward for it but love for my near relatives; and whoever earns good, We give him more of good therein; surely Allah is Forgiving, Grateful.
And this is our way of showing love for Ahleybait by having jashn and majalises for them…
May Allah help us all follow the right path.. Ameen