some elements of Afghan govt supporting TTP :RM

**ISLAMABAD: Interior Minister Rehman Malik has said elements of the Afghan government are likely supporting a senior Pakistani Taliban leader who is fighting to topple the Islamabad government, accusations which could further raise tensions over cross-border raids by militants.
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Pakistani officials say the Taliban commander known as Fazlullah has been orchestrating raids on Pakistani security forces from Afghanistan, where he fled several years ago after a Pakistani army offensive against his stronghold in the Swat Valley.

Pakistan has repeatedly called on Afghanistan to hunt down Fazlullah, whose fighters cross the border in their hundreds, set up ambushes and attack army checkpoints.

**“If somebody is living in somebody’s house and you ask him ‘who is giving you food, who is giving you all this shelter?’ You know he is in Afghanistan,” **Pakistani Interior Minister Rehman Malik told Reuters in a weekend interview.

“I think some of the elements (of the Afghan government) there are supporters. Maybe state actors, maybe non-state actors.”
Afghan officials see Pakistan’s suggestion that Afghans are supporting cross-border attacks as an attempt to distract attention from what they say is Pakistan’s long history of supporting Afghanistan’s Taliban movement and other insurgent factions.

US and Afghan officials say there is no comparison between the relatively small and recent presence of Fazlullah’s men in eastern Afghanistan and what they describe as long-standing ties between elements of Pakistani intelligence and the Afghan Taliban.
Pakistan’s intelligence agencies backed the emergence of Afghanistan’s Taliban movement in the mid-1990s and Western officials believe that parts of the security establishment continue to tolerate or actively abet Afghan insurgents.

Malik provided no evidence to support his assertion that elements within Afghanistan were supporting Fazlullah, nor did he give further details.

“These comments made by the Pakistani Interior Minister are irresponsible and a baseless allegation,” said Afghan Interior Ministry spokesman Sediq Sediqqi.
Afghanistan has been under attacks from safe havens of insurgents inside Pakistan, and we are quite sure that Mullah Fazlullah is somewhere in Pakistan.”

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Fazlullah and other militant leaders based along the frontier complicate US efforts to stabilize the region before most Nato combat troops withdraw from Afghanistan by the end of 2014.
The issue has strained ties between Islamabad and Kabul.
Afghanistan has long accused Pakistan of backing militants said to be based on its soil who cross the border to attack Afghan and Nato forces, including the Haqqani network, blamed for a series of high-profile attacks on Kabul.

Islamabad denies the allegations.
Pakistan’s reluctance to bow to US pressure to take tougher action against sanctuaries used by Haqqani insurgents and other Afghan fighters has been one of the major reasons for a sharp deterioration in relations with Washington.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai said on Sunday he accepted parliament’s decision to dismiss the country’s two top security ministers for failing to stop cross-border shelling blamed on Pakistan, in what could be a blow to Nato plans to hand over security responsibilities to Afghan forces.

The fractious parliament voted on Saturday to remove Defense Minister Abdul Rahim Wardak and Interior Minister Bismillah Mohammadi over a series of recent insurgent assassinations of top officials, as well as the cross-border fire incidents that infuriate many Afghan voters as well as politicians.
Afghanistan has rushed additional troops and artillery to the mountainous border with Pakistan as tensions continue to rise over cross-border shelling which Afghan officials blame on Pakistan’s powerful military.
Pakistan’s military has said it only responds to attacks by militants, including Pakistan Taliban operating from what it says are havens in Afghan territory.

In his heyday, Fazlullah was known as “FM Mullah”, for his fiery radio speeches broadcast in Swat, which was a tourist resort before he and his men imposed a reign of terror there.

A burly man in his thirties with a heavy black beard, Fazlullah dispatched his men to publicly flog and behead opponents, or anyone they deemed immoral.

Fazlullah has re-emerged as a major security headache for the Pakistani military, which is already stretched fighting other Taliban insurgent leaders.

“He is as dangerous (for Pakistan) as the Haqqanis are dangerous for Afghanistan. He is energizing terrorism now. He is recruiting people, he is planning,” said Malik.

In June, about 100 militants loyal to Fazlullah sneaked across the border and ambushed Pakistani troops. The fighters later released a video of what they said were the heads of 17 ambushed soldiers.
It was a reminder that despite army offensives, militant leaders can simply melt away and reappear to take on Pakistan’s army, one of the biggest in the world.

“Unfortunately he is enjoying his life in Afghanistan,” said Malik. “I appeal to Afghanistan to look into it and make sure (his) people don’t come to us.”
Greater cooperation on border security could be hard to achieve. There are no signs that either side will back down.
Asked if Pakistan would be willing to go after the Haqqanis, Malik said: “They are not our babies; they are no longer anyone’s babies. They have become independent.”

Rehman Malik points fingers at Afghanistan | DAWN.COM

for the first time we wil have to agree with Rehman Malik Sahib. but I’m afraid its just lip service and govt is not going to do anything regarding that.

Re: some elements of Afghan govt supporting TTP :RM

Who listens to Rehman Malik in the first place is the question.

Re: some elements of Afghan govt supporting TTP :RM

^ But it is a fact that Afghani officials are openly sheltering anti-Pakistani elements. This matter also came up for dicussion during ISI chief's meetings with US officials and General Kayani also raised this issue with General Allen of the ISAF a few days ago in Rawalpindi.

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Thank you RM for saying it, now anybody who used to believe this will have to throw this out the window :bummer:

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For once RM is right, the Afghan Govt made the plot to assassinate BB by hiring mercenary named Bait Ullah Mehsood, the objective was to Kill BB and then sit back and watch, jokers like RM will be Interior Minister and Corrupts like Zardari will be President or Head of State and will run the affairs and with them running the affairs, the country will be on its knees... and it look like the plan worked...

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What mistakes have Afghans realised? Afghanistan will emerge victorious? For that they need to establish their writ first.

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While the Afghans have kept their eyes closed on TTP’s flight from Pakistan to Afghanistan. The same taleban are attacking them now while they point fingers at Pakistan.

Heads Roll as Afghan Parliament Questions Defence Failures - Institute for War and Peace Reporting - P142

Afghanistan’s defence minister Abdul Rahim Wardak has resigned after parliament called for him to go, along with Interior Minister Bismillah Khan Mohammadi.

Wardak’s announcement on July 7 came four days after legislators passed a vote of no confidence in him and Mohammadi, whose ministry controls the Afghan National Police.

President Hamid Karzai said he would respect parliament’s views and remove the two ministers, but he asked them to stay on in a caretaker capacity while he found replacements. Wardak refused to carry on in this lesser role.

The two security-sector ministers had faced mounting criticism for their apparent failure to counter cross-border attacks from Pakistan.

**Rockets continued to fall on the eastern Kunar province throughout July, as senior Afghan officials pointed the finger at the Pakistani military rather than Taleban militants, saying that only Islamabad had access to the munitions used.
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**Pakistan has denied the allegation, while the United States Defence Department and the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force, ISAF, have indicated that insurgents may be to blame.
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On July 20, rockets killed three men and a woman in Kunar province, according to the Afghan foreign ministry. On July 22 and 23, nearly 400 rockets were fired from Pakistani territory into Kunar’s Dangam district. More have fallen since.

Kabul has previously threatened to refer Islamabad to the United Nations Security Council if the bombardment, which began in May, does not stop. (See Afghans Say Pakistan Behind Cross Border Fire](http://iwpr.net/report-news/afghans-say-pakistan-behind-cross-border-fire).)

**Kunar provincial governor Fazlullah Wahedi said nearly 2,000 rockets had landed in recent months. As well as killing civilians, the attacks had displaced hundreds of families.
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“The central government should address this issue seriously. The bombardment has made the public very anxious,” Wahedi told local media.

This week, Afghanistan’s interior minister Bismillah Khan Mohammadi and army chief-of-staff Sher Mohammad Karimi, appeared before the Meshrano Jirga, or upper house of parliament, to discuss the Kunar attacks.

Mohammadi presented photographs of munitions that had landed and claimed that only the Pakistani military possessed armaments of this type, including 155-mm artillery shells.

Karimi assured senators that the Pakistani military was behind the shelling, and claimed the assault was intended to pressure Kabul into accepting the Durand Line, a poorly-defined border established by an 1893 agreement. Kabul does not recognise the line, which Pakistan would like to see formalised as the official frontier.

**Karimi also questioned why the US was not doing more to address the situation.
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**“I don’t know why the Americans are ignoring this issue,” he told the Meshrano Jirga. “Maybe the Americans are afraid because Pakistan has nuclear weapons, or maybe they are old friends and [America] doesn’t want to clash with them.”
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In Washington, Pentagon spokesman George Little said America was working closely with Afghanistan and Pakistan to try and limit violence along the border. Little suggested that insurgents were to blame, according to press reports on July 25.

“We have obviously been in constant contact with the Afghan government to work on these issues and we have put pressure on the enemy that operates along the border,” Little told a press conference in Washington.

The US embassy in Kabul declined to comment on the issue, saying it fell within ISAF’s remit.

On July 24, ISAF condemned what it called “cross-border insurgent indirect-fire attacks” and said it was working with the Afghan defence ministry and the Pakistani government to stop them.

The Pakistani embassy in Kabul has denied any state involvement in the attacks. Embassy press officer Akhtar Munir said insurgents operating on either side of the border could be firing the rockets in the hope that Afghans would blame Pakistan.

Kunar is mountainous and heavily forested, and borders Pakistan’s Federally Administered Tribal Areas, over which Islamabad has limited control.

**Officials in Islamabad have accused insurgents of staging attacks into Pakistan from Kunar. They say the Pakistani Taleban have found refuge in parts of eastern Afghanistan from which most Afghan and American forces have withdrawn over the last two years, and are now using the area as a springboard for cross-border attacks, according to a New York Times report.
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Pakistan’s Dawn newspaper reported on July 24 that “terrorists” had launched 15 attacks from Kunar and Nuristan provinces against Pakistani border posts and villages over the last year. The newspaper claimed that 105 soldiers and civilians had been killed in the attacks.

Kabul has largely confined its response to the shelling to formal diplomatic channels.

President Hamid Karzai and the incoming Pakistani prime minister Raja Pervez Ashraf told a press conference in Kabul in July that they had discussed the attacks, though a more junior Afghan official was left to issue a sterner public statement.

Jawed Ludin, deputy foreign minister for political affairs, conveyed Kabul’s “serious concerns” to Pakistani ambassador Mohammad Sadiq on July 22. He warned that the bombardment “would have a significant negative impact on bilateral relations, especially in light of the broad range of important issues related to peace, security and economic cooperation”, according to a foreign ministry statement.

Karzai’s spokesman Aimal Faizi said the administration understood the public’s concerns, but was keen to avoid reacting emotionally to what was a complicated issue,
“We understand our people’s feelings but the issue is very complex…. We are doing whatever is in the country’s national interest,” he said. “Some decisions have been made in this regard and some orders have been issued to the security agencies, but we cannot divulge the details.”

Some Afghans are frustrated that their foreign allies have not done more to stand up for Afghanistan, especially after Karzai and US president Barack Obama signed a strategic partnership agreement earlier this year. In the agreement, which paved the way for continued cooperation until 2024, the US said it would view any external aggression against Afghanistan with “grave concern”. (For more on the deal, see Afghan Parliament Approves US Partnership](http://%20http//iwpr.net/report-news/afghan-parliament-approves-us-partnership).)

Faizi said Afghan officials had raised the Kunar bombardment several times in meetings with senior NATO and ISAF officials, while interior ministry spokesman Mohammad Sediq Sediqi confirmed that officials had presented evidence of Pakistan’s alleged involvement to their foreign allies.

**But according to an official in the presidential office, the commander of ISAF and US forces in Afghanistan, General John Allen, remains unconvinced. Speaking on condition of anonymity, the official said Allen had told the Afghan authorities several times that they lacked sufficient proof of Pakistani involvement.
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The official said that while the situation was very complicated, the US and NATO were displaying “negligence and ignorance” regarding the attacks.
Atiqullah Amarkhel, a defence expert and retired general, said a stronger government in Kabul might have lobbied more successfully for western help. He added that the US was heavily reliant on Pakistan’s support in Afghanistan, which might make it reluctant to accuse Islamabad of involvement.

On July 31 the US and Pakistan signed a deal on shipments of supplies to the international forces in Afghanistan, prompting Washington to release over one billion dollars in frozen military aid, the Associated Press reported. This ended a crisis that began in November 2011 when Islamabad closed its borders to freight for NATO troops in Afghanistan, after American airstrikes killed 24 Pakistani soldiers.

Wahid Mozhda, an Afghan political analyst, said that even if it knew Islamabad was implicated in the shelling, Washington might be reluctant to confront it given its reliance on the transit route.

“The… least expensive transit route for American troops here in the region goes through Pakistan. The US needs Pakistan to achieve its long-term goals in the region,” Mozhda said. “I am confident that with the technology at their disposal, the Americans know where the rockets coming into Afghanistan are being fired from, but they don’t want to upset Pakistan,” he said.

Hafizullah Gardesh is IWPR’s Afghanistan editor. Mina Habib is an IWPR-trained contributor in Kabul.

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yes, exactly Afghan govt has realized their mistakes, hence the cross border raids from Afghanistan havent stopped.

same militants who were pushed out in 2009 by Pakistan army who have now safe havens in kunar and nuristan provinces, top taliban commanders like Fazullah and Faqir have taken refuge there, who are using Afghanistan soil to launch attacks against Pakistan. they dont want to take an action against these militants, because it seems like they do not pose any threat to US/Afghan forces? they are quick to locate and eliminate militants on the other side of border, but fail to track them in their own territories? Afghanistan need to break out of denial and face the truth.

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The biggest munafiqat was that Pakistan gave refuge to millions of na shukeray Afghanis when they had nowhere to go. The biggest mistake Pakistan made.

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Afghan wet dreams. Kunar is biting them now.

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So Mardan how was schooling in Peshawar?

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What munafiqat, what betrayal

Didn't Pak govt and the Ulema of Pakistan representing Pak Govt spoke to taliban head prior to the attack that give up OBL??? Didn't they informed them about the dire consequences of there saying that they will not hand over OBL... they could have alteast sent OBL out of their country to aviod the storm from HELL... but no, they listened to none and opted to have fight with USA... and got all the country destroyed... and now you blame Pakistan for that... get your facts right... Taliban denying to Pakistani demand to give in OBL was the prove that Talibans are no more puppet of Pakistan !!! so take a doze of reality...

2ndly, if Pakistan is that bad, why all Afghan Mahajareen are still here? whenever Pakistan make an effort to send them back, they cry like anything... take them back... and for Afghanistan itself, in its 1000s years of history, they have not been able to unit for long time unless under a ruthless ruler/regime... they have always fought among themselves and that is what is going to happen even if American leaves!!!

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^ Best of luck to Afghans for their endeavours.

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Shut Up Rahman Malik

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So you are saying that basically, ISI agents run the Afghan Govts?

yar, you hate so much, why not take back you refugees? why always cry when talk about refugees returning home comes on table or guess what, take them to India... atleast then we can have peace in Pakistan...

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Thats odd. Because a majority of the Afghan staff that works for NATO got their degrees in Pakistan. I guess you got confused by the name in English.

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They are living on Pakistani land. So yeah its not theirs.

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OK go and have your lands liberated... :D

It seems as if the Afghans have a poor education of geography as well.

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I stopped reading Mardan’s post after this :rolleyes:

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By collaborating with occupiers…:hehe: