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And in case anyone still has doubts about the evil the army is fighting in the area.

Militants hijack coaster in Swat

Statesman Report

MINGORA: Local Taliban hijacked a passenger coaster here Sunday, however later they released the driver and other passengers, police said.

A coaster was signalled to stop by the local Taliban at Nangoi area of Swat, the driver while trying to escape sped it away at which the Taliban opened fire on it and forced the driver to stop the vehicle.

After seizing the coaster, however, they let the driver and other passengers to go, police said.

Meanwhile, attendance remained significantly low in all government-run girl schools in district Swat following bomb blasts in different female schools.

**A visible decline in the attendance of female students of the district has been witnessed during last two months as parents fear for the lives of their children.

Recently two bombs were recovered from Government Girls High School Qambar and scores of threatening letters were received by all the girl educational institutions in district containing warnings to stop the ‘un-Islamic’ way of education.**

Majority of the parents have already stopped sending their daughters to schools due to extremely tense and uncertain conditions, which is proving a severe set back to government’s efforts to improve literacy rate among womenfolk of the most backward valley of the province.

The country in general and the district Swat in particular is already lagging behind in women literacy rate which is being threatened already by negative attitude of the society.

While the recent of wave of bomb blasts and threatening letters have further damaged the efforts for increasing the women literacy in Swat. Meanwhile the president of Headmistress Association of the Girls’ School wrote a letter to high authorities of the education department informing them regarding the low attendance.

http://www.statesman.com.pk/topnews/topnews2.htm

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wtf are my posts being deleted? if someone says im posting propoganda, im entitled to a rebuttal... btw, no matter how hard you try to make this site pro mush/mqm it wont work... the only thing ull be left is 5-10 pro-mush/mqm guys here posting long articles praising each other and their clowns...

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The gupshup server is based in the US and thus the administration cannot condone terrorist sympathizers. Sorry.

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Uhuh, and what about the courts that are now saying the MQM is a terrorist party? Btw, the owner is a Chuadhry, whom youre so fond of insulting...

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Once this politcal sh1t settles down and Kiyani takes full comand, we might see some improvement...
The Pak Army needs a focused strategy, they have to finally behave like an actual army and do their job in defending the country, instead of Fking around with politics... If Musharaf gives up his uniform, and the Army goes back to the barracks, atleast partially, we might finally get some reprieve...

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Yes, nobody in the world, except those that refuse to leave or be tamed; the foreign and local militants.

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Muali
SDAL
LB

A strong offensive by the army can drive them out of FATA for sometime, but then they will leave and hide in neighbouring regions of Afghanistan which are controlled by Taliban. And after some time they will be back again. In this way the problem will go on and on. Unless the Afghan areas under Taliban are not taken care of by the NATO and Karzai, it will be extremely difficult to defeat them.

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A look at waziristan prior to the military operation.

Footloose: Travels in No-Go Land —Salman Rashid

Exactly nine months after this journey, in March 2004, the Pakistan army moved into Waziristan turning the country into a no-go area. On many occasions since I have thought, sometimes seriously, mostly in jest: what would Zahir Shah and his friends be thinking of me?

In June 2003, I travelled in South Waziristan without let or hindrance and with the heart utterly free of the dread of being kidnapped to be gruesomely beheaded by some fifteen year-old lunatic or of being shot and killed. From Tank, I was driven to Jandola whose very name strikes terror in the stoutest Pakistani heart. And then through Ladda up into the higher mountains, perhaps passing the compound that sheltered bin Laden or the mad doctor Al Zawahiri or the one-eyed mullah of Kandahar.

At Larimai, we gave up the pick-up truck and walked. Our objective that day was the peak of Pir Ghal (or Ghar), 3515 metres above the sea and well inside the Mahsud heartland. Young Khalid Mahmood, the local tehsildar had organised a guide for me. Bearded Zahir Shah came with a grim set to his mouth, few words for he spoke only his native Pashto and a Kalashnikov rifle slung over his shoulder together with a holstered pistol and a wicked-looking knife in the waistband. Zahir Shah had also let the word out about the man visiting from Lahore and some fifteen of his friends tagged along as well. All of them, fine Mahsud lads, loaded down with enough weapons and ammo to start a major war in Waziristan.

But these were good men, all of them. None spoke anything but Pashto, a language I barely understand and then too only its Yusufzai dialect. Yet we hit it off. This complement of guides had an average age of about twenty-two and as we left the village of Larimai, they joked about me coming to die in the wilds of their country — not from being shot at, but because the strain of going up their mountain would be too much for my tired old body.

At one point, Khalid Mahmood halted us beside a rill for a sumptuous lunch of chicken curry and rice and naan that he had packed. If that was a surprise, the bigger one was the topping of mangoes to follow. Then our tehsildar lay down to sleep telling us to hurry to the top and wake him up when we returned.

From then on, I was on my own with my little army of Mahsuds that danced on ahead as I huffed and puffed behind them. About half way up the slope, I was overtaken by a greeting in Urdu and turning around saw a good looking man with a sack on his shoulder. Feroz Khan Mahsud had returned home only some weeks earlier after successfully completing twenty years of service with the militia in Balochistan. Earlier that morning, he had gone up the mountain to leave his wife and three daughters near the shrine at the top and was now taking up the sack of flour for the two days they were spending up there.

For him and his family, this was no Sunday picnic. This was a pilgrimage to the Saint’s Peak for that is what Pir Ghal signifies. Here the Mahsuds and Wazirs come to pray for sons. And Feroz Khan thinking three daughters a tad too much was now desirous of an heir to carry on the name of the family. When we made the summit, I found a small partly sunken room that oozed women’s voices and a little distance away a sort of balcony behind which supplicants stood to invoke the name of the prophet Ismail so as to beget sons.

Lying beside the cubicle was the skin of a black-haired goat that had earlier been sacrificed for the prophet so that the cherished son may be granted. A whole bunch of Feroz’s relatives had already cooked the mutton and were now preparing large, badly cooked chapattis over a fire that smelled richly of pine resin. My army and I were invited to dine with them, but Zahir Shah declined. The good man sensed that were we to join in, there would be none left for the women hiding in the cubicle.

My army stood behind the stone balcony looking westward and prayed. Done with that, they plucked bunches of wild flowers that grew in profusion all around to stick them in the rims of their hats, behind their ears and even in the muzzles of their rifles. We became a veritable garden on the move. Feroz Khan asked if I had prayed and I told him my wishes were fulfilled and there was nothing more to ask for. He suggested I should ask for something new, so I went to stand behind the balcony with my hands raised.

Now Feroz wished to know what I had prayed for. I told him I had asked for a thousand years of peace on earth. The man was visibly moved — strange for one who had spent his life in the paramilitary forces killing or training to kill other people. He regarded me for a long moment and then raised his own hands perhaps to endorse my petition.

We stayed on the top for some time and then returned the way we had gone up. Khalid Mahmood was still lounging beside the stream where we had left him and we walked back to Larimai and our pick-up truck. I thanked Zahir Shah and his merry band for the trouble they had taken leading me up the mountain and told the lot that if they were ever to find themselves in Lahore, they could count on me for hospitality. Soon we were jouncing back for Ladda and the rest of the world.

Exactly nine months after this journey, in March 2004, the Pakistan army moved into Waziristan turning the country into a no-go area. On many occasions since I have thought, sometimes seriously, mostly in jest: what would Zahir Shah and his friends be thinking of me? He would probably be saying, ‘That bald man from Lahore with that excuse of a ponytail was a dirty sneak. He had been sent out to reconnoitre for our worthy Arab guests. How did he know they are hiding here when we never pointed out the compound to him?’

Many times I have thought too what would happen if Zahir Shah or any of his friends would run into me here in Lahore. Would they take up the issue? And what, were we to come face-to-face back in Waziristan? Would he and his friends pump me full of lead for playing dirty with them? One thing I know, they harboured no ill-will towards me. They were fun loving young men who adorned themselves with the flowers they picked on the way and sang their songs as they went. Except for Zahir Shah, nearly all others were clean-shaven and for the life of me I cannot imagine them having gone Taliban.

But who knows. Under pain of death they might all be bearded and turned into utterly grim and joyless men who would not be singing or dancing so that their belief remains pure. Who knows if some of them have notches on their Kalashnikov butts, one for each militiaman or soldier they have deprived of life. One thing is certain, however: it will be years before another hill walker from Lahore or anywhere else in Pakistan will go walking in Waziristan and return to tell the tale.

Salman Rashid is a travel writer and knows Pakistan like the back of his hand

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It was either the Pakistan army or the US army. Someone was going to go into Waziristan sooner or later.

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Come out of it. There is only a limited few who support these fanatics. I have been to Swat a few times and people of Swat were never fanatics or even close to that. There were so much in support of spread of tourism in their area. The infiltration of foreign extremists who pose as spreading Islam have taken the city as hostage and stopped all economic progress. Don't spread lies.

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I completely agree.

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What about raising a wall around Pakistan that has been exporting islamic terrorsim to every neighbouring country for nearly two decades?

Instead of providing its youths, especially to those living in the tribal areas, proper education and job possibilities-Pakistan opted for opening religious madrasas that inodctrinated young minds with exremist views and hate aginst infidels.

The Madrasa quialified are just doing what they have been taught-what goes around comes around.

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Did you hear about Osama being more popular than Musharraf in Pakistan? Is that a lie too?

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have you ever spoke with parents of a madrassa student...
Well i have.....their issues are valid to them.....no one else's opinion matters..
they say (exact words of most of the parents), " Duniawi taleem tu yaheen reh jaye gee deen ki taleem sirf kaam ayee gee...."
Now how would to convience them to get their kids a proper education and get a real job to support their families.....when they only belive in deeni taleem....????
*I dont say its bad...but if a kid is capable of memorizing the whole 30 chapters..i m sure they are capable of handling the duniawai taleem too.... dont you think? its a matter of choice..... *

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It's merely a figment of your own imagination muali saeb. They also want to send their kids to schools and they also want their children to become doctors or engineers...

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When you dont have other alternatives, what else do you want them to study about? If our politicians werent so busy looting/electing themselves maybe they could build alternatives for these kids so that they dont end up like this.

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Mohtaram .... i said i met those parents........ it wasnt just one person's opinion but most of them think alike down there.....

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you will find some people in every corner of this country who hold such views...but there is a huge difference b/w deeni taleem and dehshatgardi ki taleem...

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No need to include all of Pakistan in the jihadi mess. A wall around GHQ, ISI HQ, FATA, some areas of NWFP, Punjab, and Balochistan will diminish terrorism in rest of Pakistan by 90%.