So we might not be going to pakistan

Right now as I type this trust me im not in a good mood

my dad is an extremely generous person (mashAllah), if anyone we ever know needs anything, money time he is ready to give them whatever whenever
i think thats absolutely wonderful but isnt there a limit? i mean what if its someone you dont trust? If u know that person is up to no good

im not talking abt petty cash

so my dad has this far relative in PK whose been asking for money since day one, i had absolutely nothing against the guy, there are lots of ppl in pakistan in the middle of a financial crisis
but everytime he asks he sends a mail saying ‘i need so and so £’000s pounds by this and this date’ and that it is urgent

my dad would send it immediately
he knew he wasnt going getting it back but he doesnt say anything

recently we’ve been getting calls and mails from the guy again, this time asking for HUGE sums of money,

hes getting death threats and theyre telling him theyre going to kidnap his wife

at first my dad calmed the guy down, telling him its ok we’ll help him, but the man wouldnt tell my dad what the sum of money was

then my dad found out
ok my dad didnt think he would have gotten himself into so much debt, it was ridiculous for anyone living in PK to have gone into so much
so he talked to his brothers and sisters
we found out that he has a minefield of a timetable, hes involved with certain ‘groups’ and that his problem has gone somewhat ‘high-up’

and that hes told them he’s got relatives living in england

ofcourse my parents say no… the guy has never taken responsibilty for his actions, he has a wife and kids ands hes threatening others with suicide

my uncle is in the army, he knows what this guys involved in and hes told my parents to cancel our trip to pakistan (which incidently we were all looking forward to) bcos this idiot has given our details and probably our arrival date

when i told my dad im not going to go if this is the case it finally hit him that this situation is getting quite dangerous, and he said that its a bad thing if we dont go to pakistan bcos of that lowlife (no my dad didnt call him that he wouldnt ever do such a thing)

right now i feel like killing that moron
and whats he doing?? hes getting other ppl close to my dad to call him up on his mobile (note not the homephone) all the time

his sisters have already talked to my mom, and been quite rude when my mom told them our situtation

Is this 'man' related to your family if so in what way? Does he live in the same city as your family in Pakistan?

What further can your uncle in the army do to help, how exactly did this 'man' get into debt and what does your father owe him if anything and why?

Have you thought of changing your phone number?

Who has this 'man' told about your arrival date?

And where abouts in Pakistan are we talking?

Sounds like a nasty case of the 'leach' to me.

No good deed goes unpunished....the guy sounds like a very unstable man who is willing to mess up your family in order to cover up his insecurities. I'd say keep far away from him and if you do go make sure he doesn't know.

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Is this 'man' related to your family if so in what way? Does he live in the same city as your family in Pakistan?

What further can your uncle in the army do to help, how exactly did this 'man' get into debt and what does your father owe him if anything and why?

Have you thought of changing your phone number?

Who has this 'man' told about your arrival date?

And where abouts in Pakistan are we talking?

Sounds like a nasty case of the 'leach' to me.
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i dont think my dad would change the number, he doesnt believe in cutting off relations no matter what

the mans been talking to the MQM

im sure my uncle can do alot, its helped out in the past as well, but when he told us the situation doesnt look good that we should be careful

we're going to get one of those guest houses in the army areas for our stay, my uncles going to be coming as well and staying next to us (that is if we still go)

He's my dad's far cousin, and he moved to Karachi when the whole problem started, i cant believe he would do this to our family, my parents always taught us since we were kids to be nice to everyone, and they'de take us to his house and be really nice to him etc etc

Zakk u dont know my family, theyre ready to forgive someone for murder at the drop of a hat, and the guys been using emotional blackmail

Xara,

I know some people who know some people, I'm sure Zakk does as well him being from 'up north' too.

Just let me know ;-)

It will be like he never took a pakhi of naswar in his life and you can go and enjoy your visit.

Uncle Thap (the enforcer) Thappar.

at the moment my uncle is scoping it out

:D that really made me grin
if it comes to that ill let u know,

Xara I feel for you, but I'd say a person like this does not sound like a very safe person to be around, they tend to be habitual and repeatedly do what they want .. no matter what they say in person or over the telephone. Also your family is a soft target..so going or not going to Pakistan shouldn't be a worry..after all safety for you and your family should come first ...

God willing everything will be sorted out for the best.

^
InshaAllah I hope so too
its the emotional damage thats worrying me, i mean try telling my dad what Uncle Thap said :D

my chacha willsort something out, imsure inshaAllah

Additionally trust what your parents think on the situation along with following your uncle's advice.

We've had a lot of problems like this and they are delicate matters when family members are involved. The most important thing is safety and putting an end to anything like this in future, Pakistani's invented feuds.

But seriously, consider my other option. We'll call the first time a freebie all I need is a photo or an artists rendering and a name he goes by.

Thap (I was no where near the place when 'it' happened) Thappar.

ure serious? :eek:

but warning him wont solve much if hes given our details to someone
and trust me, :smiley: i dont think ide be able to live down the guilt (must be inherited - though God only knows what that man deserves)

Zara, jus continue ur journey, ur uncle sarge will protect u, after all if this guy really has mqm connections, chances r he would not dare 2 come close 2 da army.

lol lmao..funny thang is same ish happens wid ma mum n dad…n it’s not otha ppl buh ma own mamooz n chachuz

it’s pathetic..i mean how’re u gonna live on ur sistaz money ur whole life…ma mamuz r gettin so disgustin dat now everytime they call they make up da same x-cuze of havin been attacked by sum1 or police comin afta em o sum bull****y reason..makes me laugh buh ma ammi n abbu get all mushy inside n get generous n send da money :rolleyes:

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Zara, jus continue ur journey, ur uncle sarge will protect u, after all if this guy really has mqm connections, chances r he would not dare 2 come close 2 da army.
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my dad said we'll wait and see, we've still got a couple of months, but my uncle was really angry, idont think hes going to let the guy get away with it, i mean he actually told him he was ready to offer him his protection, then he went and did this

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lol lmao..funny thang is same ish happens wid ma mum n dad...n it's not otha ppl buh ma own mamooz n chachuz

it's pathetic..i mean how're u gonna live on ur sistaz money ur whole life...ma mamuz r gettin so disgustin dat now everytime they call they make up da same x-cuze of havin been attacked by sum1 or police comin afta em o sum bull****y reason..makes me laugh buh ma ammi n abbu get all mushy inside n get generous n send da money
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no its not like that in my family (thankgod)
its something along the lines of this guys parents were really really loyal to my dads father or somtehing, its a shame his kids turned out to be what they are