Is Uni considered grad school or under grad for you guys (Uk'ers)? I know you guys have college and uni and lord knows what else, but it gets very confusing for us Yanks. See over here, you go to high school (12 grades equivalent and are usually 18 by the time you graduate). After graduating high school you usually go for 4 years of under grad to a college/university (which are pretty much synonymous) and get your bachelors. Further studies for graduate school/masters/medical school all comes after that.
College for us = ages 16-18 of education. It can either be college or sixth form according to where it is
Uni for us is er..undergrad for you lot. Which is usually 3 years for an average course (unless its engineering/law/medicine etc which have their own time periods)
Then come masters, then come pHD
then come love and marriage and a baby carriage
silms, just forget about college. it's a name given when the establishment doesn't know what else to call itself and is pretty broad. high school = secondary school = 11-18. the last 2 years are for A-levels but you can also do these two years and get your A-levels at a 'college' and then they often do other vocational courses as well (stuff like hairdressing, car mechanics, plumbing) for people who don't want to do A-levels or for those who have A-levels but don't want to go to university.
after graduating, if you want a degree (bachelors or higher), you go to university. so you go straight into medicine at 18.
Stoppits, thanks, I got it now.. yeah I guess it's the same in Pakistan where kids enter med school at age 18 and become doctors a lot faster than they do over here.
I dunno about that, I think both have their pluses and minuses. I remember my cousins in British system in school used to goof off most of the year, and then their finals were worth like 100% of their grade so it would be major rattafying the last couple of months before. Whereas for us, homework/quizzes/projects/tests/ and then finals all added up so you had to keep up throughout the year.
But then the stuff they were learning was also well advanced from stuff we learn.
Interesting...........
So if you want to go to med/professional school you have to know by 18?..............no wonder you guys all seem to have your life figured out at such a young age
I lived in jeans, t-shirts and hoodies when I was at uni. Ne time to even iron clothes half the time, as long as they were clean it was areet!
How times change.
times haven't changed. i'm the local tramp at uni.
for eg. my hair hasn't been washed since uhh saturday? it was so greasy i could easily slick it in to a ponytail and it would sit still. i kept my hood up. =/
I dunno about that, I think both have their pluses and minuses. I remember my cousins in British system in school used to goof off most of the year, and then their finals were worth like 100% of their grade so it would be major rattafying the last couple of months before. Whereas for us, homework/quizzes/projects/tests/ and then finals all added up so you had to keep up throughout the year.
But then the stuff they were learning was also well advanced from stuff we learn.
yeah i agree. that's pretty much what everyone does.
Its based on merit - you need to achieve a certain level in high school to study a certain degree at a certain university and its very very competitive.
I think the stuff we learnt in our final 2 years of high school is much much harder than S.A.T's. maybe thats why we don't need to do undergrad etc?
Further to inspiron's comment, I'd say it's more focused and in depth. You pick what used to be 3 (now 4) subjects to study from 16-18 (A-Levels) and they are generally picked depending on the entry requirements for the degree you want to do. So back in my day, for medicine you needed maths and chemistry and one other science (as maths and chem were considered the most difficult subjects), bio wasn't a requirement. I believe it is now though as 4 A-level are expected and as a result, quite a bit of material has been removed so they don't go in depth as they used to. In your 2nd A-level year, you'd make applications, get interviews and get provisional offers for certain grades that have to be achieved to secure the place.