So how do we fight homicidal murderers?

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Its seems like there is not a day go by when some homicidal terrorist blows up taking countless innocent lives. So, the question is how do we fight these killers?

DAWN.COM | Metropolitan | Dwindling hope for relatives of Peshawar blast victims

     Dwindling hope for relatives of Peshawar blast victims

Saturday, 31 Oct, 2009
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People visit a site of Wednesday’s bombing in Peshawar, Pakistan on Thursday, Oct. 29, 2009. – AP
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**PESHAWAR: The chances of pulling more bodies from the scene of Pakistan's second-worst bombing all but disappeared on Saturday despite the hopes of relatives still looking for loved ones' remains.**

The top official in northwestern Peshawar city said there was little chance of recovering the remains of 16 people listed as missing after Wednesday’s market bombing that killed more than 100 people.
‘In our opinion (the) bodies of 16 missing people were reduced to ashes as the fire engulfed the buildings and shops,’ Sahibzada Mohammad Anis told AFP.
Still, relatives continued to shuttle between the hospital and the bomb site hoping to locate their loved ones.
‘I know they are dead but can somebody tell me where I can find their bodies?’ said Waqar Ahmad, weeping as he held photographs of his missing mother and father.
They were shopping for clothes to wear at Ahmad’s wedding when a car bomb triggered a huge fire and gutted shops in the market, known for its congested lanes.
‘I got the dead body of my sister but I am still searching for my parents,’ Ahmad said.
The bombing was the second-most deadly in the country’s history after twin blasts targeted former prime minister Benazir Bhutto in October 2007 and killed at least 139 people. Bhutto survived but died in a separate attack two months later.
Wednesday’s bombing underscored the gravity of attacks that have killed around 2,400 people in two years.
Abdul Qadir, 60, has been making daily visits to the market rubble and then the hospital hoping to find his son.
‘My son was sitting in his shop. I know he is dead but it is a must for my satisfaction to see his dead body,’ Qadir said.
The father of another shopkeeper had a similar hope.
‘Me and my second son come daily to see the debris. We think we may find him in the rubble,’ Tariq Ali said.
That is not likely, said Anis, the civic official.
‘It is a tragedy but we should accept this,’ he said.
‘Finding the dead bodies of these missing people is equal to impossible.’

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How do we fight them? We kill them. We make it so expensive for them to try to fight against the people of Pakistan that they do not dare think of it. Those who target innocent women and children do so against the teachings of the Prophet (SAW) and thus are not subject to any mercy from our end.

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Even though military is wiping them out, they will be back again after few months/yrs.
Long term solution: The same way people did in Europe and States and how they dealth with suicide threats.
Pakistan is no where sophisticated enough like Europe/States but government needs to track down all the networks much more aggressively which are deeply rooted in Pakistan.
Beside this, an average Pakistani needs to take responsibility and report or take action of any thing suspecious that merely looks like bomb threat. Our citizens are are sooo ignorant of this. Their own homes and shops are about to be blown up and they are completely oblivious to it. Every Pakistani needs to be educated about this through media, whatever it takes, TV, radio, billboards, papers. This does not spread fear but actually will teach people how to protect themselves from such threats. Media is not doing enough to educate people on this.

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Need to find and take out the BA$$$$$$ who brainwash them into a living bombs ASAP. They are the factories where they produce this filth.

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I agree. I find people to be too complacent about this. Also, there are too many sympathizers on the street.

Also, revamp the entire education system. Wipe out private schools which are for the elite, and make it accessible for everybody. Keep the same education standards for all 'classes' of people.

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I cannot believe that it is the private schools that are producing these suicide bombers unles by private school you mean madrassa.

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I never said Private Schools are producing suicide bombers. :confused:

I feel like a lot of these kids get sucked into these groups (or bribed by them) cause they feel hopeless. A lot of them, from my understanding, are from the lower classes. The school system is really bad. I mean, private school kids have it so much better that they don’t get easily attracted by these taliban types. Private school kids are given hope and direction for the future. Kids in poorer areas are not given these liberties. If education was made the same for everybody, meaning give these poor kids from the lower classes a more fair education, then they won’t be easily swayed.

I think they should get rid of private schools by giving ALL kids the same education, giving them hope for the future (which is what kids who attend private/international schools are given). Rich kids don’t have these problems. Rich kids from rich families aren’t easily swayed cause they are given more opportunities to succeed in life. You follow?

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eliminating private schools is a bad idea. if we want to make government schools better, make them better. how do private schools currently hurt govt schools?

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I think all kids should be taught at the same level and education standards. I don't know, I saw this documentary on how bad govt schools are compared to private schools and what was shown was horrific. If private school kids had to go through what govt school kids go through, the whole system would be revamped so fast.

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It wouldn't have any real effect Mehnaz. There aren't enough private school teachers to have a noticeable impact on the quality of state education.

Eliminating the private schools would just decimate the production of upper-middle/upper class leadership in Pakistan.

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also private schools are the only means for people from rural areas to even have a shot at a decent education. govt schools in cities arent nearly as bad as they are outside.

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The Government Model schools have a pretty decent education system in place. By no means is it the excellent, but there are people from Government schools that get into a good many of the US undergraduate colleges. So to assume they are all backward is frankly untrue. Most of our Taliban are infact madrassa graduates and not government school graduates.

Secondly the support for the Taliban has fallen over the past 2 years drastically. Look at the piece on BBC today. The artucle - BBC NEWS | South Asia | Eyewitness: Fleeing Waziristan’s war

Shows the view of an average student from Waziristan. It should be noted the support for this offensive is high and the people of the Tribal belt are infact supporting it.

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i think we need to reform government schools and madrassa. There should be a check on what molvies are preaching in the mosques, illegal mosques should be eliminated, young boys in high school and college should get vocational education, so if they decide not to go for higher education, they would have a skill to find decent of living instead of wasting their lives on streets and end up being a prey for the terrorist organizations.

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Government schools need more support. Madrassa's need to be shut down. However we are not Saudi Arabia or Iran. There should be no checks on Mosques. Freedom of speech applies as per the constitution of Pakistan and no mosque is illegal. In Islamabad, a road was rerouted because people were not going to let it be demolished for the sake of a road.

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We need better bomb detection devices......

Not if we equip the Police with Bomb detection devicesor agents..........

Right, but you can stop the carriers of explosive devices from entering public places..........

Right, New schools cannot be started over night!

agreed!

One simple tactic should be adopted by Pakistan Police...........add Bomb Sniffing Dogs to their force.........

that should stop most high explosive belt wearing would be bombers or even scare the Sh** out of them.............

Question is who will handle the Dogs???????????

and who will answer the Fatwa's????????????