In thread about views about Zarwai, bao bihari said this:
Can anyone here post similar incident(s) where Sahabah carried out such things ? I find it blasphemous to say such thing, from the history I have read I don’t recall sahabah “slaughtering” enemies the way Zarqawi is alleged of, capturing fighting/non-fighting foreigners and then “slaughtering” him/her as an animal, showing video of slaughtering (of course video was not the tool then) etc.
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I think hes referring to the Ghazu raids where sahabas used to attack caravans of meccans? but I dont think those raids included the kind of stuff zarqawis been doing.
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Can anyone here post similar incident(s) where Sahabah carried out such things ? I find it blasphemous to say such thing, from the history I have read I don't recall sahabah "slaughtering" enemies the way Zarqawi is alleged of, capturing fighting/non-fighting foreigners and then "slaughtering" him/her as an animal, showing video of slaughtering (of course video was not the tool then) etc.
Captain 1 i was mainly refering to slaughtering of enemy rather then whom he slaughtered and why.
Sahbah also killed their enemy like this.
Two attachments are from urdu translation of Fatuhush sham by Allama Qaqidi , translated by Moulana Fazl Muhammad (teacher of Hadith in Binory Town madressa karachi)
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^So now we have license to be violent and kill.
Your point of view is all based on the assumption that what was done in past was right.
I can give you a maybe for that, maybe it was the only way during those day. Maybe they didn't know better. Maybe they were inhuman. after all, these same people used to bury their own daughters. So what the enemies can expect. And so on and so forth.
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slaughtering like those videos portrayed where they catch a man and tie his hands, and cut his throat screaming "Allahu Akbar" is defnitiely not allowed in Islam....
such slow cruel death is not allowed for slaughtering animals so how can u justify it for humans????
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such slow cruel death is not allowed for slaughtering animals so how can u justify it for humans????
Totally agree to you brother.
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Sahbah also killed their enemy like this.
I can't read the scanned pages, not a good scan. Enemies might be beheaded like with one fast swing of sword, but not using a knife slaughtering cow-like.
Secondly, the definition of enemy has been twisted far beyond recognition just like Palestinian suicide bombers regard ALL Israelis as "military" enemy as they are registered in military for services etc etc. So to regard Zarqawi's actions "similar" to Sahaba's is blasphemy in my opinion.
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bao bihari could you please tell us briefly the incident you are refering to ...it is not possible to read these pages
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We can kill enemies how ever we want as long as they r combatants. Period.
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but is killing envoys and diplomatic staff legal ?
secondly not all of those soldiers taken captive were killed infact only a small minority at times were executed for various reasons
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Sahbah also killed their enemy like this.
What do you mean by slaughtering? With swords and arrows, how else does one kill an enemy?
Off the battle field, no enemy was killed without good reason...and certainly not as a psy-ops operation, the concept simply didn't exist.
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Nope, there are limits!
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Cant make them suffer too much, but u have ur choice of how.