Heard this word ‘siyapa / siyapa ae’ from Punjabi friends and watched in dramas / movies, but I never know that it used to be an official gathering in deceased family till I read this book ‘What the body remembers’.
Ladies gathered and do the catharsis by remembering the deceased one and beating their head to express sorrow. Pretty common scene in almost all the culture.
What was surprising that this Sikh uncle asked ladies of his families not to do ‘siyapa’ by telling that its a Hindu ritual. Quite common? There are so many customs that Muslims follow but the religious people (Muslims) give same warning as the Sikh uncle.
How do you see this clash between religion and culture?
Why every new religion coming into picture denies cultural traditions of an area by declaring that to be specific to previously prevalent religion.
There is another Sikh character who forbids his wife not to use ‘mangal sutra’ being Hindu thing and nose pin being Hindu /Muslim thing. See how small things like nose-pins are abandoned in the name of religion.
it's called "kaaran"...kaaran kar ke ronaa dhonaa...in UP. it's quite common among Muslims and Hindus. it's NOT confined to deaths among Hindus. it's also done when a bride leaves her maayekaa or at the time of gawnaa.
recently, my wife's uncle passed away. we don't do such things. members of my family and my extended families never do veiling with words [kaaran] out loud. women mostly sob.
it was an unusual sight when a lady [not even related] walked in the house few days after the death and started veiling with words [like: haaaaayeeee meraa bhai, kaise chalaa gayaa hameN chhoR kar, yaa Allah aisa kiuN kiyaa tu ne k mere bhai ko mujh se chheen liyaa etc]...at least for me. she was told not to do kaaran and she stopped as if the car hit a pole. lol
it's called "kaaran"...kaaran kar ke ronaa dhonaa...in UP. it's quite common among Muslims and Hindus. it's NOT confined to deaths among Hindus. it's also done when a bride leaves her maayekaa or at the time of gawnaa.
recently, my wife's uncle passed away. we don't do such things. members of my family and my extended families never do veiling with words [kaaran] out loud. women mostly sob.
it was an unusual sight when a lady [not even related] walked in the house few days after the death and started veiling with words [like: haaaaayeeee meraa bhai, kaise chalaa gayaa hameN chhoR kar, yaa Allah aisa kiuN kiyaa tu ne k mere bhai ko mujh se chheen liyaa etc]...at least for me. she was told not to do kaaran and she stopped as if the car hit a pole. lol
yes as I said its there in all cultures. names may be different, but why every new religion coming in the area discourage such cultural things by attaching them with the previous religions of the region?
yes as I said its there in all cultures. names may be different, but why every new religion coming in the area discourage such cultural things by attaching them with the previous religions of the region?
these are purely cultural practices and nothing to do with the religion. in Islam, veiling is forbidden except for the widow. it looks odd when we display such emotions publicly. there must be at least some reservations as to how we display our emotions/grief/sorrow publicly. that's my opinion though.