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What percentage of Brides to be are round roti certified?
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That cant be predicted. Its like hit and miss.
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The steps in this procedure are not entirely clear
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WTF? Nobody says scientists know everything. Engineering and Science go hand in hand. The better your technology is, the more you can do with it. How scientists’ theories get tested is greatly limited by our technology. We need brilliant minds to imagine the possibilities and then bring them to life. There isn’t even just one type of physicist or an engineer you know.
As for why we haven’t discovered a particle since 1931, every advancement in technology and scientific calculations count and there has been progress though you fail to see it. Also, it isn’t exactly like coming up with a new iphone. We are talking about things we cannot see or touch. If scientists start making false claims like you know who then we got a problem. The discoveries heavily depend on our technology but the technology would be no where without scientists. If you knew anything about the history of Science, you would know the gap between discoveries is huge. You say physicists have others thinking that they know everything yet YOU ARE THE ONE expecting them to tell you everything. Why the expectation? Like I said earlier, Science isn’t comforting. Stick to Philosophy and religion to soothe your soul.
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@Monk , a new class of what?
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Theo naseehat ka shukria
Little flash back.
1-TLK suggested particles I did not.
2-I think I only said that did Hawking get new data, or they are doing what annoyed even Einstein, which was showing off their mathematical skills with out it being connected to reality.
3-I did not find fault with engineers, mathematicians or biologist or chemists or anthropologists and such.
4-I like few discipline of natural science my self, which made me appreciate what I believe in, very much.(you started talking religion.. so...)
Please ask any question about 3 and 4, you can answer 2.
you can ask TLK about 1.
Thank you.
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We should ask some theoretical physicists.
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Any theoretical physicists in the house?
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Yes, there is information leak and you are right about dying black hole. That IS what I am talking about. Watch the movie and we shall discuss it further. Don't want to spoil it BUT the black hole in the movie is apparently OLD and relatively stable. Watch it!
OK a very well made movie, except for the end. In any case, I dont think that movie was talking about anything that we are discussing in this thread.
But back to you Theorist to discuss wanted to discuss after I watched the movie!
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It’s science fiction and I personally wouldn’t think about it any deeper than that. It’s visually and aurally beautiful, as are most of Nolan’s movies. They consulted scientists (mostly Kip Thorne) to give it some real-world credibility but as moving making has to go, it’s largely artistic license. Johnathon’s original ending was more scientifically ‘accurate’ and therefore wasn’t saying anything ‘new’ about black holes or singularity. As for the actual ending, I like the theory that is based on Dr. Mann’s lines “What does research tell us is the last thing you’re gonna see before you die? Your children. Their faces.”
TARS and CARS were the best bits… gooo engineering!
p.s. It probably should been called ‘Gravity’.
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This is too confusing. I will just wait for Bollywood to make its version to explain it.
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This is too confusing. I will just wait for Bollywood to make its version to explain it.
I want to see item song on the other side of the horizon :D
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O come on! The ending was the best part of the movie. What’s a Sci-fi movie without a little bit of fiction in it? Yes, I realize they are not talking about anything we are discussing especially reading after @stoppit 's post. LOL. I had no idea this was based on Kip Thorne’s work and theories. I should have Googled. It’s just that after watching the movie, I instantly thought of Stephen Hawking’s new theory regarding Black Holes. Not an entirely shaped theory but still..
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Wasn’t it TARS and CASE?
YES! It should have been called Gravity. It was better than Gravity! I know it’s Science Fiction and all but still makes you wonder, right? I didn’t know this was based on Kip Thorne’s theories/work. The ending left me a bit confused. I am going to research a bit more. I still feel like the movie made a connection to the theory of “no Event Horizon” I am going to read up on Kip’s work. Thanks!
I have read Thorne’s work, so am not even sure which of his theory is in play. The thing they did right was the time dilation theory. That was Einstein’s work. Representing worm hole as a sphere was a cool and correct touch. a stable worm hole that could connect two parts of universe is an idea shared by many physicists, so Thorne cant be given credit for that. Saying that in fifth dimensional space, time can be used as one of the spatial dimension, and we can go back and forth is just a fictional technobable. Planet orbiting a black hole was another absurd concept, especially a planet with liquid water and get that, daylight. Where that light was coming from? Ours come from sun, and black holes don’t emit light, so the planet should have been dark. Maybe, all the dimensions sharing gravity is Thorne’s postulate. Never heard of that before, but it sounded too cool to be coming out of a sci-fi writer’s mind.
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@TLK . Maybe you should read into the movie's origins. Kip Thorne was both consultant and executive producer of the final movie. The first idea was created by Thorne and Lynda Obst... it passed through different hands before eventually ending up with Chris Nolan (since Johnathon wrote the first screenplay). It was Nolan that introduced the fictional elements such as space-time and the planet orbiting the black-hole because as I said before, he was creating a science-fiction movie.
The sad part is that it was filmed in 70mm IMAX and there are hardly any cinemas in the UK that can play 70mm.
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Written by based kip himself.
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You are right Stoppit. I knew that Thorne was a consultant and EP of the movie. Its just that because cosmological physics is the subject I am passionate about (both in science and in sci-fi), I tend to get critical. It would have been awesome to watch this movie on IMAX screen.
Ethan, I will go through your links. Thanks,
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I am not familiar with Thorne’s work so can’t really comment. It seemed like the movie pretty much was about time dilation and Gravity anomalies.
AND YES, I didn’t understand how a planet could be so close to a Black Hole with daylight and liquid. Remember how the waves were so damn high. They were basically Tsunamis. They never mentioned the distance between the black hole and the planet they first landed on but the waves being so high probably had something to do with it. Maybe it was at a safe distance but still could feel the gravity pull. They just said it was another system with three earth like planets so maybe it had a star like our sun away from the black hole? Also, Black Holes sure don’t emit light but they are not dark. They trap light before the Event Horizon and that is the Apparent Horizon and can be observed.
About the bold part, that’s the cool part. Sure, it’s fictional but damn, can you imagine it being real? Afterall, we don’t know what a fifith dimensional space could possibly look like. 