Can somebody corroborate this news?
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If yes,have authorities lost their control fully on Baluchistan?
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Re: Singing of Pak national anthem is stopped in Baluchsiatn schools?????
why a military operation is not launched against baloch rebels?who r
openly have rebellion frm
pakistan.
why operation is repeatedly done against pashtuns of waziristan?
why operation only in pashtun areas of swat, buner, dir, bajaur, bannu?
why governmament is testing our temper despite knowing that once pashtuns shifted 2wards nationalism, it wil b more difficult 4 pakistan to handle then balochs.
why a military operation is not launched against baloch rebels?who r openly have rebellion frm pakistan. why operation is repeatedly done against pashtuns of waziristan? why operation only in pashtun areas of swat, buner, dir, bajaur, bannu? why governmament is testing our temper despite knowing that once pashtuns shifted 2wards nationalism, it wil b more difficult 4 pakistan to handle then balochs.
because they are all busy trying to figure out how to blame India RAW instead of understanding what's going on inside Pakistan. once pushtuns start talking separation, that will also be blamed as pushtuns being Indian agents.
Almost every thread here ends up with somebody blaming RAW or Mossad or CIA or Saudia or Iran or the corner store baker! I just saw one where somebody is blaming RAW for Qari's murder, even though even a robot knows he criticised Baitullah a few days ago and now met his response
I juts read a couple of days ago waiting in the doctor's office another article by an ex-Pak military senior now living abroad - about how 'afghans' and 'puktoons' are looking at India and USA as pay masters.
I am sick and tired of being blamed for Islamabad's repeated and continuous mistakes
Re: Singing of Pak national anthem is stopped in Baluchsiatn schools?????
I guess you can compare the situation which has been created by Communist Rebels in Central and East India... so you better focus on that problem it is getting bigger and bigger every day..
Re: Singing of Pak national anthem is stopped in Baluchsiatn schools?????
^Wrong.Maoists are not against India but they are fighting against the social injustices.Nowhere they have said they are fighting for a seperate country.
Re: Singing of Pak national anthem is stopped in Baluchsiatn schools?????
^^ Thats Interesting... so if in India anyone ask for social Justice they are declared Rebels/Terrorist...
Nangaland or Bodoland One of them have govt in exile
Once Khalistan Movement was close to achieve its objective...
Same is the case in Balochistan, Army and Govt is busy in NWFP removing this major threat of Foreign Funded Talibans and Al-Qaida.. once they are tackled Balochistan will be sorted out...
And Just for you info, Majority of Balochies are looking to have Social Justice which is their right, All Pakistanies support it.. it is small and mind you very small minority who is asking for separation... Unlike India, where every other state is looking forward to separation.. and you call it Social Justice...
Re: Singing of Pak national anthem is stopped in Baluchsiatn schools?????
What do you expect when ISI kidnaps and murders three Baloch political leaders?
^^ Thats Interesting... so if in India anyone ask for social Justice they are declared Rebels/Terrorist...
Same is the case in Balochistan, Army and Govt is busy in NWFP removing this major threat of Foreign Funded Talibans and Al-Qaida.. once they are tackled Balochistan will be sorted out...
what was Pakistan Government and Army doing for 8 long years from 2001 when Taliban and AlQuda where settling down in north western Pakistan to live happily ever after
whats happening in India is because of uneven economical development, north east India has some of the poor states, disturbances are against CPI ruling West Bengal and there failure to develop the state because of their Leftist ideology, for greater economical development and not for monopoly and spread of religious ideology.
^^ Thats Interesting... so if in India anyone ask for social Justice they are declared Rebels/Terrorist...
Nangaland or Bodoland One of them have govt in exile
Once Khalistan Movement was close to achieve its objective...
Same is the case in Balochistan, Army and Govt is busy in NWFP removing this major threat of Foreign Funded Talibans and Al-Qaida.. once they are tackled Balochistan will be sorted out...
And Just for you info, Majority of Balochies are looking to have Social Justice which is their right, All Pakistanies support it.. it is small and mind you very small minority who is asking for separation... Unlike India, where every other state is looking forward to separation.. and you call it Social Justice...
Hanibal,I have lived in India for years and at the moment I am in India.I do not see any state in India asking for a secession from india.There are a few organizations operating in India especially in North East but we have dealt with them . :)Naxalite movements are not terrorist movements and noone in India brand them as terrorists.Thy are just ultras and they do not cause any grievance for the commeon people but they are fighting against bureacracy.In many states,they have considerable influence and even common people are with them in many places.(just one example for their social commmitment is,PWG in Andhra immediately stopped train bombings once they found innocent civilains and common people are affected because of it)
Khalsiatn movement was a terrorist movement but that's a forgotten chapter now and it's been long 17 years ,that menance has been wiped out.Our Punjabi people never supported it and there is no Khalistan movement in India.
But the Baluch problem is far more though provoking.This is not the first time they demanding freedom.Thy had done it under Khan of Kalat,in sixties ,seventies ,Eighties and now.But this time they are more vigour and their force is immense.The government rule is in a paralyzed state and even national anthem is banned in schools means,what?Authorities have no control over the affairs.
TTP and Taliban issues are different.They are simply terrorists.Good to see that Pak is taking some serious actions against them.But Baluch issue is different.Taliban issue had not gbeen there before but it is a new issue (Atkleast they turned against pak only now)But Baluch issue has been there for decades.You have not sorted it out till now.That's the crux .
what was Pakistan Government and Army doing for 8 long years from 2001 when Taliban and AlQuda where settling down in north western Pakistan to live happily ever after
whats happening in India is because of uneven economical development, north east India has some of the poor states, disturbances are against CPI ruling West Bengal and there failure to develop the state because of their Leftist ideology, for greater economical development and not for monopoly and spread of religious ideology.
Pakistan's Army and Govt. was doing the same thing what Indian Govt. & Army is doing for last 30 odd years to eliminate settlements of the rebels...
Re: Singing of Pak national anthem is stopped in Baluchsiatn schools?????
^Hanibal,Indian government has not employed it's army to take on Naxalites.Only state police and at the most C.R.P.F
But Baluch issue is totally different..................
Hanibal,I have lived in India for years and at the moment I am in India.I do not see any state in India asking for a secession from india.There are a few organizations operating in India especially in North East but we have dealt with them . :)Naxalite movements are not terrorist movements and noone in India brand them as terrorists.Thy are just ultras and they do not cause any grievance for the commeon people but they are fighting against bureacracy.In many states,they have considerable influence and even common people are with them in many places.(just one example for their social commmitment is,PWG in Andhra immediately stopped train bombings once they found innocent civilains and common people are affected because of it)
Khalsiatn movement was a terrorist movement but that's a forgotten chapter now and it's been long 17 years ,that menance has been wiped out.Our Punjabi people never supported it and there is no Khalistan movement in India.
But the Baluch problem is far more though provoking.This is not the first time they demanding freedom.Thy had done it under Khan of Kalat,in sixties ,seventies ,Eighties and now.But this time they are more vigour and their force is immense.The government rule is in a paralyzed state and even national anthem is banned in schools means,what?Authorities have no control over the affairs.
TTP and Taliban issues are different.They are simply terrorists.Good to see that Pak is taking some serious actions against them.But Baluch issue is different.Taliban issue had not gbeen there before but it is a new issue (Atkleast they turned against pak only now)But Baluch issue has been there for decades.You have not sorted it out till now.That's the crux .
While you are in India, you need to update urselve with the surrondings and happeings...
Maoist are declared Terrorist by Indian Govt.
Now Balochistan is an issue and its is more serious this time because getting support from the enemies of the Pakistan.. Pakistan is currently dealing with the TTP, hopefully the chapter of TTP will be closed in few months time... then Pakistan can tackle with those in Balochistan who is involved in terrorist acts....
As i said earlier, Govt. and Army felt to remove the TTP threat prior to taking BLA and other crap.. like you cleand the Khalistan Movement... We'll be able to sweep them out.. as u said we have done in earlier... we are going to do it this time.. all you need to focus is to not to call the organizations TERRORISTS, who according to you is fighting for social justice...
because they are all busy trying to figure out how to blame India RAW instead of understanding what's going on inside Pakistan. once pushtuns start talking separation, that will also be blamed as pushtuns being Indian agents.
Almost every thread here ends up with somebody blaming RAW or Mossad or CIA or Saudia or Iran or the corner store baker! I just saw one where somebody is blaming RAW for Qari's murder, even though even a robot knows he criticised Baitullah a few days ago and now met his response
I juts read a couple of days ago waiting in the doctor's office another article by an ex-Pak military senior now living abroad - about how 'afghans' and 'puktoons' are looking at India and USA as pay masters.
I am sick and tired of being blamed for Islamabad's repeated and continuous mistakes
Just like India blames everything on ISI. I am sick and tired of being blamed for Delhi's continuous incompetencies and off loading them by blaming Pakistan.
Well Indian have 0.8 Million other troops in Kashmir.. and still the issue is not solved…
It is funny you mentioned that, here is a news item, which might help you in getting the facts straight
TEZPUR, India, Jan. 9 As many as 13,000 Indian army troops fanned out across Assam province Tuesday hunting down rebels who have killed 70 people since the weekend.Military officials said in one encounter Tuesday morning, troops killed two armed United Liberation Front of Assam as Defense Minister AK Anthony had a closed-door meeting in Tezpur with Assam Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi and top army commanders to review the security situation, the Press Trust of India reported.ULFA militants have been targeting Hindi-speaking people, predominantly day laborers in their newest wave of attacks, the BBC said.The joint offensive by security forces of both Assam and Arunachal Pradesh are on to track down ULFA rebels believed to be taking shelter here, said Arunachal Pradesh Police Chief Amod Kanth. Despite government assurances the rebels will be put down, tens of thousands of people are flocking to railway stations in a bid to get out of the province.Police officials said they are concerned ULFA will intensify its violent campaign in the run-up to India’s Republic Day on Jan. 26, and the Indian National Games, scheduled for February in Assam.
Indian army raids Assam rebel bases : World
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Hanibal,agreed with your post.But you mentioned abt ULFA,and ULFA (United Liberation Front of Assam)is a terrorist organization.I do not deny that.thy are not like Maoists.they are fighting for a seperate country and they are branded as terrorists.Thy are doing all harms to the common people of Assam .It’s a terrorist organization.
It is getting support from people across the border.
What do you expect when ISI kidnaps and murders three Baloch political leaders?
Well Kehki! how could u say that ISI is involved in this incedent? and what about the sayings and bluff of US General who made a map of pakistan without balochistan and showed NWFP a part of afghanistan? what about that man?
[quote="hanibal, post:9, topic:203014"]
Well Indian have 0.8 Million other troops in Kashmir.. and still the issue is not solved...
For us ,issue is getting resolved.
Terrorists are not to be seen and no news at all from them these days.
terroist activies have gone down drastically.We have held elections there.Tourism is gaining it;s momentum :).kashmiris are feeling safety and are happy now :)
But we are talking abt Baluchistan.......... Even after five decades,they are struggling and this time calling for independence strongly with a profound voice.Thats the point to be discussed.
Hanibal,agreed with your post.But you mentioned abt ULFA,and ULFA (United Liberation Front of Assam)is a terrorist organization.I do not deny that.thy are not like Maoists.they are fighting for a seperate country and they are branded as terrorists.Thy are doing all harms to the common people of Assam .It's a terrorist organization.
It is getting support from people across the border.
We know there is problem in Balochistan and we the Pakistanies acknowledge and we do acknowledge the fact the most the problem is because Balochistan was neglected..
Now Govt is working parallel.. first give what Balochistan deserve in the form of projects and monetary assistance and on the same, making more provinces from administrative point of view.. both these steps will ease the pain of the most...
On the same note, govt. will launch an operation ( not a military one ) with the help of FC or other law enforcement agencies to eliminate the terrorist organization.. this might have had happend by now, but the threat of Taliban was far more stronger than of BLA etc... so govt might hav decided to go for Taliban first and then take on this rebels in balochistan.. which again have support from our neighbour countries...
While you are in India, you need to update urselve with the surrondings and happeings...
Maoist are declared Terrorist by Indian Govt.
Now Balochistan is an issue and its is more serious this time because getting support from the enemies of the Pakistan.. Pakistan is currently dealing with the TTP, hopefully the chapter of TTP will be closed in few months time... then Pakistan can tackle with those in Balochistan who is involved in terrorist acts....
As i said earlier, Govt. and Army felt to remove the TTP threat prior to taking BLA and other crap.. like you cleand the Khalistan Movement... We'll be able to sweep them out.. as u said we have done in earlier... we are going to do it this time.. all you need to focus is to not to call the organizations TERRORISTS, who according to you is fighting for social justice...
Hanibal,Indian government has banned Maoists but not branded them as terrorists but as insurgents.
And FYI,Maoists have agreed to talks..............
In Blauchistan,it's not the situation.......
[quote="hanibal, post:9, topic:203014"]
Well Indian have 0.8 Million other troops in Kashmir.. and still the issue is not solved...
For us ,issue is getting resolved.
Terrorists are not to be seen and no news at all from them these days.
terroist activies have gone down drastically.We have held elections there.Tourism is gaining it;s momentum :).kashmiris are feeling safety and are happy now :)
But we are talking abt Baluchistan.......... Even after five decades,they are struggling and this time calling for independence strongly with a profound voice.Thats the point to be discussed.
If the issue is resolved what is the need of having this big army there???
Anyway, Balochistan shall be solved,, u need not to worry, have a nice vacation and do visit Kashmir...