Singer Ayman Udas ‘shot by her brothers for TV sin’

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Is this the influence of Taliban, or are these people really that stupid ? :frowning:

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Singer Ayman Udas ‘shot by her brothers for TV sin’ - Times Online

A RISING musical star was allegedly shot dead by her own brothers in the conservative city of Peshawar in Pakistan last week after she had appeared on television.
The murder of Ayman Udas, who was in her early thirties and newly married, has shocked the city’s artistic community because it symbolises a backlash against women and cultural freedom in an area that is increasingly dominated by Islamic funda-mentalists.
As a singer and song writer in her native Pashto, the language of the tribal areas and the NorthWest Frontier province, Udas frequently performed on PTV, the state-run channel.
She won considerable acclaim for her songs but had become a musician in the face of bitter opposition from her family, who believed it was sinful for a woman to perform on television.
Ashamed of her growing popularity her two brothers are reported to have entered her flat last week while her husband was out and fired three bullets into her chest. Neither has been caught.
The final song performed by Udas on screen seems to have portended her death. It was entitled, “I died but still live among the living, because I live on in the dreams of my lover.” Udas, a divorced mother of two, had remarried 10 days before she was murdered.
Fellow performers, many of whom have received death threats from hardline Islamist groups, were stunned by the killing.
In recent months several popular artists have been forced to stop performing as singers and comedians. Others have fled the country or moved to other cities.
Initially, it was believed that Udas was killed by an Islamic group. But Usman Khan, her husband, told police in a statement that she had been killed by her brothers because they could not come to terms with her musical career.
He said: “She was killed for breaking her family traditions.”

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Re: Singer Ayman Udas ‘shot by her brothers for TV sin’

When we have thugs/killers/goat-lovers commonly known as "Taliban & Sufi" who says even picture taking is haram. Then you will have outcome like this..

Anyway.. people of Pakistan should get themselves ready for a long & sick battle with sick people !

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This has nothing to do with the Taliban. It is simply not seen as acceptable for Pashtun women and most other Pakistani families to start appearing on TV and singing. in most parts of Pakistan its seen as very low. Even so-called educated/liberal families have the same view of it. These "sick" people could even be the majority of most Pakistanis. I know what happened is very wrong but dont blame everything on Talibanisation.

This is not about Talibanisation but about how low being a musician is seen as. Mr Punjabee from the USA your fellow Sikh/Hindu Punjabi families from Brahman/Jatt/Gujjar/Rajput extraction would probably not be very pleased and even some of them would kill their womenfolk if they decide to become a "mirasi".

If this lady is Pashtun, it is a well-known fact that they are more conservative in how their women behave and appear in public. 99.9999% of Pashtuns I know would break off ties with a female family member who decided to enter the media in any way or form. I would not be surprised if quite a few would commit murder in such a situation.

Believe me it was much worse 50 years ago. Nowadays quite a few families have broken the traditions and you see more women involved in the media all over pakistan and inreasingly NWFP. The channel Khyber TV pushed quite a lot of pashtun females in the media spotlight and more people than ever before in Peshawar/NWFP are more open to the idea of their sisters, daughters entering the public glare.

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Re: Singer Ayman Udas ‘shot by her brothers for TV sin’

Honor killings have been more common, frequent and part and parcel of rural as well as urban Punjab and Sindh, more so then the taliban country...archaic, anti-women, mysoginsitc and outright brutal practices (such as vani, marrying young girls to Quran, parading women naked in the villages, punishment of gang rape of women of an offender's family imposed by village panchayet, burrying girls alive, and etc.) are more prevalent in rural punjab, sindh and southern balochistan and these predate any taliban or fundamentalist in this part of the world...

What you are seeing in Sarhad, pukhtoons being the only true independent/free race in pakistan, is a reaction against the secularization, exploitation and objectification of women sex through euphemistic claims as women's liberation and other such hogwash...Honor killings were unheard of in Sarhad, they were and still continue to be a favorite past time in Punjab and Sindh..

Secular, anti-islam, NGO fed, altaf bhai's brand of liberals would do tthemselves and their cause a huge favor, if they'd start doing something against the barbaric cultural practices of Punjab and Sindh, and also the absolute power and brutal use of it against the poor masses of these provinces by the powerful waderas, chaudhries, sardars and urban ethno terrorists like MQM...

First resolve the issues plaguing your communities, cities and provinces, then talk about existing or non-existenting existential threats a thousands of miles away...

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No, they're (taliban) fighting against any progress humans have made in the last 1400 years. It's funny that pashtuns as you claim are the only "free" race, yet this freedom brings them such wonders like beheadings, suicide bombings, flogging and other forms of brutal punishments at the hands of those (taliban) who claim to be giving them this freedom of "shriah".

The fact is that all over pakistan, especially in rural areas, women are treated as crap. But the taliban type forces take this to the next level by institutionalizing the horrible treatment of women in their code of (mis)conduct protected by religion. So, in essence, taliban are even worse then the feudals of pakistan.

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Indeed what happened 1400 odd years ago was an aberration and a egregious pause in the development and advancement of human race...

Interesting and very revealing insight...and I am eternally grateful to you for making it official that MQM and it's supporters are bona fide islamophobes and thoroughly anti-islam...hence tools of and agents of anti-islamic forces...no wonder the biggest terrorist of South Asia with the blood of thousands of mohajirs and non-mohajirs alike on his hands sitting fat and pretty in london is given patronage and immunity...while bogus and frivilous charges are cooked up for poor pakistani students studying not far from where this scum holds court...

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Once again, pure hyperbole, no substance in your post. If you are so against the progress humans have made in the last 1400 years, why are you using a computer? This unholy movement of electrons is against the "shriaah" of Khalifah Sufi M.

Islam is a progressive religion, as evidenced by it's history over the course of time, which the talib and like minded entities want to reject and deny. They are simply scared of things they do not and will not understand. Women or even men going to schools and learning is the one thing that scares the mullah brigade even more then drones.

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Re: Singer Ayman Udas ‘shot by her brothers for TV sin’

Anyone who calls Taliban kharijis policies Islamic is an enemy of Islam and Pakistan.
This is a duty of every Muslim to fight against this fitnah. Indeed, Muslims all over the world, including Saudi Arabia and Iraq, are uniting to kill these kharijis and their supporters.

May Allah protect Muslims from this khariji menace in the name of Islam.

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Can you back this up?

Can you give a proof that someone has been killed in india for singing or appearing on television?

By the way, I noted that you used the word 'mirasi'. I am not sure what it means but Punjabee (and this thread) was talking about singing and appearing in public forums ... including television. Why you used the word? I think you realised you were on a weak wicket in your arguement...

Using brains is good for health. Try it sometime.

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I am not sure if you are justifying the murder or not, but to not take a very positive view of women singing is one thing and going to the extent of murder for it is quite another.

Ofcourse, we can always debate whether women should have the same rights as men (singing, appearing in public etc.), but I want this thread to stay on the main subject.

Could you also substantiate your statement that Hindu/Sikh Punjabi families would commit murder if their women folk started singing/appeared in public ?

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good one.

:cb:

Now if can find a neuron to transplant into Suf. Moh. , and teach him to use it.

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What do you expect from people where religion is more important than love and ur family.

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Re: Singer Ayman Udas ‘shot by her brothers for TV sin’

women persecution has a history in pakistan long before talibans were formed. the most common mentality has little to do with Allah and religion, and more with the concept of women as the sheet of honour which must be burnt if considered stained. unfortunate but rampant. why must every thing be linked with taliban, quite silly really.

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do you know anything about our religion bhopali or is it the sort of drivel you regularily churn out?

~~~Missing Someone~~~
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What a bunch of racist garbage. Pshtuns are a free race? What does that even mean? Who owns the Punjabis and Sindhis?

If Pastuns are slaves to anything, its these archaic and regressive cultural practices. Despite your eloquence, your in essence nothing more then the embodiment of the backwards and barbaric culture that this woman was a victim of.
Whats disgusting is your feigned concern for the poor exploited masses of Punjab, while at the same time defending such sexist and misogynistic practices of Pashtuns.

And so long as Pashtuns are Pakistanis, there problems are the nations collective problems. Maybe people like you should learn to appreciate the bravery of NGOs, and secularists for having the courage to stabd up to the barbaric practices. It wouldnt hurt for you to grow a sack yourself and confront the problem at hand.

And as for being anti Islam, if anything, Pashtuns need less religion, not more.. I doubt we would have Taliban running around if Sarhad were filled with normaly functioning secular people.