sindhis not happy with pakistan

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I dont care if some MQM worker got molested by the chaudhries, I dont support them, but its funny how the king of the MQM considers chaudhry shujaat his new beloved buzurg! haha

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Everyone in Pakistan knows what the Punjabi-dominated (but not exclusive to punjabis) establishment is, it is the entrenched bureaucracy, the chaudries (PML Q, N etc.), waderas (PPP etc) core of the army that hails from punjab, and some from pashtunistan, and the mainstream “leaders” and feudals from other provinces as well who get some money from the center to keep propagating their rule. For instance, I have been raising the issue of Kalabagh dam before you your cohorts even knew what it was, so don’t try to tell me if I don’t care about about Sindh or Pakistan. While every Punjabi I have ever met has praised the idea of the Dam, they refuse to accept any other opinion on this issue. The same is true for the other issues. That is the establishment mindset, and it’s not limited to any one ethnicity. It means people who have already made up their minds on what they want from pakistan and everybody else who disagrees is a traitor.

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You have to admit, you have to respect Khekashan, as he is certainly one of the most stubborn Forum members… MQM party is clearly hypocritical and full of liars.. It proven each time he posts, and yet he still persists, infact he continues to bring up the same thing over and over even though its shot down each time! Its insane! :hehe:

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Stop your constant joking. If it weren't for Mush, pindi would be a bombed out viersion of it's former self. It was a mohajir who saved punjab and rest of pakistan from utter devastation. You should think him every morning you wake up. Mush is not right on all things, I have said that before, he was raised in the army environment after all,

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So no response as to why punjabis have been silent over the oppression of other ethnicities since the 1950s. Good, we at least have that clarified now.

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MQM is not part of the establishment? MQM is not helping the army to opress democracy? MQM is not in partnership with PML-Q?

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Why dont you tell me.. You have this paranoid impression of Punjab, but nothing to sustantiate what you say.

The Punjabi establishment doesnt include the CJ, the media or the Lawyers, and yet you support these people being attacked by Mushi..

Your Party is part of the establishment... It perpetuated the rule of Musharaf, it supported the Army, it supported the MMA indirectly through the Mush govt, it supports the Mush govt agaisnt those who challenge this establoishment... You support a govt that suppresses its own people and perpetuates the establishment..

The Kalabagh dam is supported by Mush, and you support Mush, so indirectly, you also support the Kalabagh dam.
OBVIOULY, the establishment isnt limited to one ethnicity, but your prejudice only accuses the Punjab.. If it involves others, the you have no right to call it the Punjabi establishment...

You are ALSO part of the establishment, so before you start pointing fingers and denouncing the Punjabis, go take a long look in the mirror...

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For the 100th time, MQM aligned with Mush after 9/11 to support him in his anti-jihadi message. MQM is not responsible for giving birth to chaudry elahi or mian sharif, unless you feel Altaf played hand in their births. Punjab should accept responsibility for it's own leaders, Altaf did come to your house and force you to support any of them.

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pml[q] chaudhry shujaat also joined the govt to support them against the 9/11 jihadiz :hehe:

also, why did the mqm again join nawaz sharif government in 1997 if he was a punjabi jehadist lol

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MQM is a partner of PML-Q is'nt it?
Why did the MQM attack the CJ and the lawyers movement? Are they also part of the establishment?
Is'nt MQM going to help rig elections and bring PML-Q back to power in Feb.?

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also, mqm was very much part of the establishment just like how shujaat etc were even before 2002... they were busy horse trading and selling out to either ppp or pml[n]

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It's not me, it's all of Sindh, Balochistan and Pashtunistan. Wake up buddy.

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The Punjabi establishment doesnt include the CJ, the media or the Lawyers, and yet you support these people being attacked by Mushi..
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Umm, except it does.

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Your Party is part of the establishment... It perpetuated the rule of Musharaf, it supported the Army, it supported the MMA indirectly through the Mush govt, it supports the Mush govt agaisnt those who challenge this establoishment... You support a govt that suppresses its own people and perpetuates the establishment..
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It supports Mush's attempts to purge the establishment of jihadis. The establishment is reluctant to get rid of it's former jihadi bedmates. Simple as that. If Mush's changes his agenda, MQM will change it's line. Very very simple.

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The Kalabagh dam is supported by Mush, and you support Mush, so indirectly, you also support the Kalabagh dam.
OBVIOULY, the establishment isnt limited to one ethnicity, but your prejudice only accuses the Punjab.. If it involves others, the you have no right to call it the Punjabi establishment...
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Except that I don't and have never support pro-punjab Kalabagh Dam. I don't think the MQM does either. This is how a democracy works, where parties which do not agree on every thing can still align on other important issues. Your establishment mindset does not allow you to see this fact of life.

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You are ALSO part of the establishment, so before you start pointing fingers and denouncing the Punjabis, go take a long look in the mirror...
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Negative, I don't share your closed loop mindset.

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Name one person on this fourm who claims to support the Punjabi establishment which oppresses other ethnicities? No one here has ever even mentioned their ethnicity except for you..

Your party supports the MUSH govt which is guilty of perpetuating the establishment... You support it, so its you who has to answer such questions... Why do you and your party support an oppressive govt?

You wear your MQM membership on your chest and constantly playing the "punjabi" CARD... Everything revolves around Punjabis and prejudice for you...

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MQM tried to make peace with every party because that is the nature of the party. It was backstabbed of course by the usual mullah and dhagga elements. Ask yourself why your leaders are backstabbers?

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Do you really think anyone from the establishment mindset will openly admit how they have destroyed Pakistan? It's like a mullah lover here will admit that he loves suicide bombers. Very rare.

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Whats funny is that the MQM to coverup up for its hypocrisy and double standards, as just like in the past they joined the govt for their own selfish reasons, is now using the punjab card. Before may 2007, to atleast keep some credibility amongst their jiyalaz they would bash mushy and call him a punjabi general, kehkashan even made a thread about him being a punjabi joker, but after may 07 when they started fearing with mush's kursi their govt goes too, the tune changed and musharraf told them to start licking his boots which they did, but now they are using some 'punjab establishment' card, which is funny because they are supporting the regime which in the last 8 years used the punjab card according to them (mind you they joined the punjab based nawaz sharif govt before that too, and the bb govt in 88 too lolol)...

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or altaf lovers to admit they are murders/torturers...

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We all woke up.. Your party supports the establishment... Infact, your party is HATED by everyone else.. There is a reason why its always MQM against everyone else..

The Lawyers and CJ represent the educsted urban groups which have always stood against the establishment... It was the Lawyers of Karachi who stood against the Zia govt, and now they are doing it again..
If you dont know this, then you dont know anything.. Its simple as that, you really dont know anything.... Can you prov how the Lawyers and CJ are part of the establishment?

You support Mush because he is a Mohajir like you, and you have indicated this before.
You dont care about Sindh, you dont care about anything but yourself, your party and your MUSH.
Mush is an oppressive leader who aim is to perpetuate the system you claim to not support.

The Kalabagh dam is supported by Mush, you support Mush so indirectly, you support the Kalabagh dam.. The Kalabagh dam is really a Mush enterprise.
You and you party are hence part of the establishment, the worst kind of hypocrits.

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Completely agreed.

Bottom line, when Mush and co. fix elections they will be favoring 2 parties. MQM and PML-Q. If you arent part of the establishment, would they really be fixing in your favor? I doubt it.
Its not 1993 anymore

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:hehe: peace for a piece of pie! lol

MQM made govt with PPP Benazir
MQM made govt with PML[N] Nawaz Sharif
MQM made govt with PML[Q] Chaudhry League

and now ure telling me they did it because they wanted to defeat those behind 9/11 attacks on the US! hahahah