We always discuss Karachi and rest Sindh separately .
This is also problem for political parties too. This is the problem of all people of Sindh . People of rest of Sindh are facing great difficulties because their representative live in Karachi or they shift to Karachi after being elected . Other cities and areas are left without any attention .The only way to develop Sindh is to promote other cities and areas . If we can develop Khairpur ,Larkana , Tharparker and other areas in some way ,That can help a lot in solving many problems . There are no councils active on divisional bases . The divisional councils with more powers can help people of Sindh and Karachi .
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AP uncle
Very well said.. The man problem of Sindhi people is they and their problems are not owned by any party including PPP, who just turn their faces at the time of elections or playing Sindh Card.
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:k: Well said AP.
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Not only do we need smaller provinces, but the provincial capitals should be smaller cities like what happens in the US. Islamabad was planned from scratch as well, though it was from a military point of view as well but you can get the drift.
You need local govt to address local problems, but then the shaheed party and its tabla counterpart in punjab scrapped that whole system. I believe only MQM has been in favor of a local govt system, since ANP also scrapped it in KP. People talk about power decentralization to provinces, but province in turn have to give power to the local councils.
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Issue of Sindh and Baluchistan are sensitive .
Most of their residents are against new provinces but we can promote divisions as alternative . There are two new item just published .
Read the both .
Remove distinction of old and new Sindhis, Altaf urges scholars
[Dr Sarki wants referendum on independence of Sindh](http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-40498-Dr-Sarki-wants-referendum-on-Sindh)
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The only way to develop Sindh is to promote other cities and areas . If we can develop Khairpur ,Larkana , Tharparker and other areas in some way ,That can help a lot in solving many problems .
That is very true. And the reason it does not happen is the party you so fervently support. PPP.
PPP has won every election from rural Sindh and has led provincial governments in the province most of the time. And if they have ignored the very places which elected them then it is PPP that is to be blamed.
Actually, the problem is the wadera and landlord system still prevalent in the province. These people are so much into corruption that they don't see any purpose of being in the government besides minting money from any source possible.
The question about development in Sindh is not if it can happen but if it will be allowed by wadera-shahi. Remember Qudratullah Shahab's account of two landlords fighting to create schools in EACH OTHER's areas (not their own).
So will waderas give up their control of common people of Sindh by allowing them education and development?
That's the question.
Another example to support the point in the last para. PPP established Rural and Urban quota system in the province in 70s for the period of 20 years. (Even though it didn't happen in any other province). Aim was to bring rural areas at par with urban areas. But it never happened. "20 years" have come and gone several times but Sindh Rural and Sindh Urban divide is still there in government jobs.
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Issue of Sindh and Baluchistan are sensitive . Most of their residents are against new provinces
It depends on whom you ask. If majority of people is what you mean by "most" then most people even in KPK and Punjab are against new provinces as well.
But that's off topic.
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That is very true. And the reason it does not happen is the party you so fervently support. PPP. PPP has won every election from rural Sindh and has led provincial governments in the province most of the time. And if they have ignored the very places which elected them then it is PPP that is to be blamed.
Actually, the problem is the wadera and landlord system still prevalent in the province. These people are so much into corruption that they don't see any purpose of being in the government besides minting money from any source possible.
Both parties we support are against new province in Sindh .
I am talking about promoting divisions .
More powers to divisions solve most issues.
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^ Except MQM, all other ruling parties are against power devolution to local politics.
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^ I guess you meant "local provinces" instead of "local politics".
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Local provinces!?? I meant local govt, which could help things even with our current provincial setup.
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yes ur rite,ppl in rural sindh are neglected not only by politicians but also by media who jus concentrate on cities rather then rural poulation of sindh.......ppls affected from floods are still suffering ,only Allah can help them,in karachi's new sabzi mandi flood affecties from interior sindh some hindu families as well are living under the sun,waiting to hear from their local hindu or muslim leaders...
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Finally something serious from you 
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I was going to say that lol
I definitely think good things about some of the small cities of Sindh need to be highlighted.
We need more provinces so the focus can be shifted to some other areas as well, the division MUST not be on ethnic lines and should be administrative purpose only.
To keep everyone happy, maybe the name of provinces should still include Sindh (similarly Punjab KPK, Balochistan etc) e.g South Sindh, North Sindh etc.
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Expect the same jiyals including OP to raise a hue and cry about establishment and takht-e-lahore if division included every province. As things stand, PPP doesn't develop rural sindh but just decides to dole out jobs to its "masses" in karachi and other areas: I have to say that this was a masterstroke of Bhutta to create this city vs. rural class divide, yet do nothing for the rural areas of Pakistan itself. It has worked well for him and PPP since at the expense of the greater good of Pakistan, but it is all about democrazy is the best revenge remember?
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If rural sindh gets developed then what would happen to the wadaira kingdoms and the social, cultural, economic and religious hold of our leaders over the lives of people living in 'their' areas?
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Dividing Sindh into smaller provinces is uncalled cry.
I do not think PPP would like to see Sindh divided, as they hold seats from rural Sindh but money they loot and plunder comes from urban Sindh (especially Karachi). Division would mean PPP feudal lords losing their source of loot and plunder. So, no division of Sindh as far as PPP is concerned.
I do not think MQM would like to see Sindh divided, as it is not in their interest. MQM is second largest party of Sindh that got over 2.5 million votes in 2008 election, approximately one million votes less than PPP who got ~3.5 million votes. No one have monopoly over Sindhi voters and MQM is making inroads amongst rural Sindhi voters very fast. As things are developing, it is not far when MQM may form Sindh government after becoming largest party of Sindh with most seats in PA. Once that would happen, I believe we would see end of feudalism and wide spread development, education, and progress all over Sindh.
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Dividing Sindh into smaller provinces is uncalled cry.
I do not think PPP would like to see Sindh divided, as they hold seats from rural Sindh but money they loot and plunder comes from urban Sindh (especially Karachi). Division would mean PPP feudal lords losing their source of loot and plunder. So, no division of Sindh as far as PPP is concerned.
I do not think MQM would like to see Sindh divided, as it is not in their interest. MQM is second largest party of Sindh that got over 2.5 million votes in 2008 election, approximately one million votes less than PPP who got ~3.5 million votes. No one have monopoly over Sindhi voters and MQM is making inroads amongst rural Sindhi voters very fast. As things are developing, it is not far when MQM may form Sindh government after becoming largest party of Sindh with most seats in PA. Once that would happen, I believe we would see end of feudalism and wide spread development, education, and progress all over Sindh.
This is MQM's hypocricy (PPP's to some extent as well), they always ask for more provinces in Punjab, KPK etc but when it comes to SIndh, it becomes estalishment's dirty plan to divide Sindh.
As i sad, there are definitely more provinces required throughout Pakistan but they must not be devided on ethnic basis.
In any case, this is NOT the best time to discuss new provinces as there are far more important issues to sort out first.
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I think It’s in the interest of establishment to divide Sindh into North and South. It will be cause of a major headache for both PPP and MQM.
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