Is fulfillment of a religious obligation conditioned with its acceptance?
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Ideally yes.
But you have to keep in mind that you may never fully understand everything religion, so sometime you go by Faith :)
Ideally yes. But you have to keep in mind that you may never fully understand everything religion, so sometime you go by Faith :)
Ideally "yes" puts me in a great danger, be more philosophical about it.
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There is no way for you to know for sure before the judgment day about its acceptance or rejection.
There is no way for you to know for sure before the judgment day about its acceptance or rejection.
Indeed, but this is not even the question. The question is if it is conditioned with the acceptance and I have absolutely no way of knowing it, what other than certitude, if I don't have that, on the acceptance is going to alleviate and mollify me of my suspension of it going otherwise, or keep on redoing it till that divine certitude is attained .
If on the other hand it is not conditioned with the acceptance how philosophically may it be explained to have us bound to an obligation which will not, at the end, be judged in the light of its integral purity, not known to us.
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Since you are talking about religious obligation then what is the basis of your acceptance of this obligation as a religious obligation ? Your faith in that religion , right ? So my friend faith is blind , faith is unconditional, faith is a one way contract , faith is beyond logic, faith is beyond philosophy , faith is submission.
So that faith and only faith is going to make someone fulfill that religious obligation without worrying about its acceptance. In fact a true faithful should not even think about acceptance or rejection. For faithful an obligation is an obligation which should be fulfilled with sincerity , a true faithful does not need any kind of motivation or stimulus to fulfill an obligation imposed by his/her faith.
Since you are talking about religious obligation then what is the basis of your acceptance of this obligation as a religious obligation ? Your faith in that religion , right ? So my friend faith is blind , faith is unconditional, faith is a one way contract ,** faith is beyond logic*, faith is beyond philosophy ,* faith is submission.** ................
Good.
We have a whole thread on describing/discussing part of your response.
Even though it was promised that a faithful will get reward, what we see is that one should never be sure.
Even the prophet (SAW) had to fulfill his obligations and was not sure as far as I understand from my limited knowledge!
Is fulfillment of a religious obligation conditioned with its acceptance?
The acceptance is especially conditioned with the intention with which you fulfilled the religious obligation. Secondly, it is conditioned with hope that Allah SWT accepts it not fear of rejection. If you are fearful of rejection then your intentions are not clear to you IMO. Your intentions are only known to you or Allah SWT.
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Couple of points come to me.
1- There were 10 Sahaba (RAA) who were given basharat of Jannat. They continued to perform their obligations.
2- One Sahaba (Ali RAA? or Usman RAA?) reported to have said something like even if I was given hellfire in the end, I would still perform my duty to worship.
(Correct me whoever knows better)
Is fulfillment of a religious obligation conditioned with its acceptance?
some religions are more beurocratic than others
some religions are more beurocratic than others
Salvation is not an easy feat to achieve in any religion. It requires lot of tapassia/hardwork.
The acceptance is especially conditioned with the intention with which you fulfilled the religious obligation. Secondly, it is conditioned with hope that Allah SWT accepts it not fear of rejection. If you are fearful of rejection then your intentions are not clear to you IMO. Your intentions are only known to you or Allah SWT.
It is impossible to conceive good without qualification other than a "good intention", to that I am with you on your take, but denying the importance of ritual in favor of pure intention goes;
1) against the dogma of fraternity in a specific religion.
2) makes purity of your belief questionable.
My fear pertaining to acceptance may not be a manifestation of my weak or impure "intent" but just an apprehension that whether or not I am doing what I should and way I should. If purity of will is a standard to humble your fear of rejection then Prophet (SAW) would have not asked for forgiveness many a times each day.