sorry i dont understand what you are trying to prove.
This is what I'm trying to say..people who love ZZH should not or rather dont have the right to hate/disrespect/insult people who love NM and vice versa. Both are two sides of the same coin.
main agenda of this thread--> one mans hero or a great reformer can be someone elses certified murderer or propagator of hatred .....people who love ZZH should not hate or disrespect people who love NM and vice versa. Both are two sides of the same coin.
ok...give some proofs against a certified murdurer or propagator of hatred ....
i am not a supporter of modi, but his only problem is that he belongs to rss machinery otherwise the media had forgotten the gujurat riots long back...
One difference. One of them didn't commit war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Chief,
Its one of those rear occassions that I am going to agree with you in entirety.
Zaid Zaman is good at what he does. he is injecting the educated youth with hatred against jews and hindus in which Modi was not successful at.
He has a very positive image in pak media, which Modi does not have.
Zaid zaman has not yet implemented his agenda as of now, Only time will tell....
Zaid Hamid is an ar----oles. But as Chief said earlier, he is yet to comit any atrocity. Ali Azmat is a Kashmiri, and I generally found them to be racist and intolerant, so no surprise he supports Hamid.
But I am really disappointed by the Indian defence of Modi. What happened in Gujarat in 2002 was truelly a stain on India. Thousands were killed, and many hundreds of thousands were ethnically cleansed. Videos were made of women being raped and circulated. Every type of brutality and beastiality took place. Modi should be tried and jailed. Instead, he is seen as a hero. Thats truelly disappointing.
Zaid Hamid is an ar----oles. But as Chief said earlier, he is yet to comit any atrocity. Ali Azmat is a Kashmiri, and I generally found them to be racist and intolerant, so no surprise he supports Hamid.
But I am really disappointed by the Indian defence of Modi. What happened in Gujarat in 2002 was truelly a stain on India. Thousands were killed, and many hundreds of thousands were ethnically cleansed. Videos were made of women being raped and circulated. Every type of brutality and beastiality took place. Modi should be tried and jailed. Instead, he is seen as a hero. Thats truelly disappointing.
Agree with U 100% Khan sahib. Just like to add that those who defend or support modi are actually in minority. Majority of secular Indians see him as a blot on India and its history.
Zaid Hamid is an ar----oles. But as Chief said earlier, he is yet to comit any atrocity. Ali Azmat is a Kashmiri, and I generally found them to be racist and intolerant, so no surprise he supports Hamid.
But I am really disappointed by the Indian defence of Modi. What happened in Gujarat in 2002 was truelly a stain on India. Thousands were killed, and many hundreds of thousands were ethnically cleansed. Videos were made of women being raped and circulated. Every type of brutality and beastiality took place. Modi should be tried and jailed. Instead, he is seen as a hero. Thats truelly disappointing.
Thousands were killed, and many hundreds of thousands were ethnically cleansed.
.....where did you find these data???
Re: Similarities between N Modi and Z Hamid
Yes, it was a systematic revenge attack...gundas were given free hand for 36 to 48 hrs.....minorities were targetted and the official casualties of minorities were a little more than a thousand and casualties of majorities were in hundreds...
Bittujee,
Hamid is a b—st----rd, but Modi is a geneocidal murderer. Infact, even the Jihadis find Hamid to be a joke. One of the Pak networks ARY, owned ironically by a Muslim from Godhra, has tried to use Hamid to get publicity.
Have a read of this article by the BBC, which gives an independent source.
BBC NEWS | South Asia | Gujarat Muslims the ‘living dead’
The acrid smell of burning oil singes your nose and eyes as you walk into Bombay Hotel, a sprawling ghetto of Muslim-owned homes on the eastern flank of Ahmedabad, the main city in western Gujarat state.
A pall of black factory smoke hangs over this untidy patchwork of squat, ugly houses. Residents pay 150 rupees ($3) a month to a private contractor who supplies yellow-coloured drinking water through dirty garden pipes. Sewage flows out into the street.
Bombay Hotel, which takes it name after a local roadside eatery, is one of the places where many Muslims displaced by the 2002 Gujarat riots moved to. Over the past seven years, it has transformed from a remote industrial colony to become a busy refugee settlement.
The anti-Muslim riots, sparked off by the death of Hindu pilgrims in the firebombing of a train, led to the death of 1,392 people in five districts, according to official records. NGOs say the toll is closer to 2,000.
Shambolic
The riots also left some 140,000 people homeless. They were put up in camps and given 2,500 rupees by the government
and your previous statement was…
why do you habitually exegrate everything…and off course not everything in the article is exactly correct…
and i really wonder why people like Soutik Biswas of bbc never have time to meet the relatives of the people burnt alive at godhra…
Re: Similarities between N Modi and Z Hamid
Bittu,
You asked for the evidence, and I gave you the evidence. I quoted the BBC, an organization generally considered objective.
It disappoints me that someone like should defend a mass murderer like Modi. The Muslim community of Gujarat (especially the Memon and Khoja) is known for their enterprenorial stills, and Modi's goons picked out and attacked their businesses. Ahmadabad has now been ethnically cleansed of Muslims, and they are now confined to its outskirts.
Any desent person would condem this man.
Bittu,
It disappoints me that someone like should defend a mass murderer like Modi.
Disappointment yes. Surprise.. Not really...
Bittu,
You asked for the evidence, and I gave you the evidence. I quoted the BBC, an organization generally considered objective.
It disappoints me that someone like should defend a mass murderer like Modi. The Muslim community of Gujarat (especially the Memon and Khoja) is known for their enterprenorial stills, and Modi's goons picked out and attacked their businesses. Ahmadabad has now been ethnically cleansed of Muslims, and they are now confined to its outskirts.
Any desent person would condem this man.
where did you find that i defend modi....you have given someone a cleanchit of a 'mass murderer'...and you have made onesided theory...which side a decent man should be...
i have only asked you...why do you exagrate everything (habitually)...
and ahmdabad has not been ethnically cleansed of muslims...or i visit some other ahmdabad....
you did not tell me why a correspondent of bbc has no time to visit the families of godhra victims....
anyhow...godhra or no godhra...hindus had no right to attack and kill anyone in gujurat....