The images on this mail show that the jews have learnt nothing about treating people as human beings from their past experiences during world war 2, when they were massacred by the nazis, and now they are doing the same to the muslims of Palstine. During the spanish inquisition jews were terrorised by the christians, and seeking sanctuary they ran to the Uthmani Khilafah in Istanbul, where they were warmly received and treated as non-muslim citizens of the Khilafah. The muslims in those days adhered to all aspects of Islam, especially the saying of Muhammed saw " He who harms a dhimmi ( non-muslim ) citizen of the Islamic state, it is as if he has hamed me ". Such honour and protection we muslims gave the jews, even though we know their nature very well from the Quran and the sunnah. The jews lived happily under the protection of the Khilafah and one of their rabbis refered to this period as the golden age of judaism
I agree with Ums. We Paki's are not all the same. Have you forgotten Javed Iqbal. The serial Child Killer? He was Pakistani too. Sorry let me get back to the point....there is the good, the bad and the ugly in every nation.
Kill the bad ones spare the good ones! I am all for it!
Zameen Par Bhaij Diya, Khair Muslaihat Uss ke, Mujhko to chand banana tha aasmaan kay liye
The jewish government of Israel has been elected by the jewish people who live in Israel. The majority of the jews around the world support the state of Israel, either explicitly or remaining silent over the crimes which Israel commits. The jews wherever you find them in Europe or America always talk about the holacaust, fine, but why do these same jews not also talk about the holacaust which is happening today to the muslims of Palastine ?
Allah swy says in the Noble Quran the truth when swt said " Hatred has been revealed from their mouths but what their hearts conceal is far far worse ". This verse is talking about kaffirs per se, including jews.
The similarities b/w the current blitzkreig by the Jewish soldiers and the Nazis of the past is disturbing. The jews take every oppurtunity to remind the world of the opression they faced under the Nazi Germany while they terrorize their own citizen and are committing genocide themseles.
I read the following quote on a webpage and wanted to share:
“Every time we do something you [Shimon Peres] tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.”
Ariel Sharon, Israeli Prime Minister,
Knesset, Tel Aviv, October 3, 2001.
The jewish government of Israel has been elected by the jewish people who live in Israel. The majority of the jews around the world support the state of Israel, either explicitly or remaining silent over the crimes which Israel commits. The jews wherever you find them in Europe or America always talk about the holacaust, fine, but why do these same jews not also talk about the holacaust which is happening today to the muslims of Palastine ?
Allah swy says in the Noble Quran the truth when swt said " Hatred has been revealed from their mouths but what their hearts conceal is far far worse ". This verse is talking about kaffirs per se, including jews.**
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showkotjana,
many jews do sympathize with palestinains and recognize their cause as well and not every jew is a zionist.
Also, you would do well to look at http://www.netureikarta.org/ , where you will find speeches by Orthodox rabbis who not only condemn Israel’s action, but insist that Israel should not exist at all, and point out that Zionism is destroying the previous close ties between Judaism and Islam.
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Allah swt says in the Quran " The believers are a brotherhood ", and the Prophet saw said " The muslim is the brother of a muslim he does not harm him or insult him ". So please when you address muslims and want to advise them follow the Islamic adhab and akhlaq. I know that we muslims living in the west have picked up many bad traits and characteristics from the kafireen, but that is no excuse to accuse fellow muslim brothers of being ignorent.
The double standards of the jews i was refering to are the ones who talk about the holacaust inflicted upon them, and say nothing about the illigitamete Israeli state.
Yes there a minority of jews who oppose Israel for a varity of reasons, but my post was addressing the majority of jews who support Israel, morally, verbally and financially. Also we know that the jews and the rest of the world condemn the Nazi's, no one says to the jews that there were some good Nazi's, of which we know that there were many, some of them jewish even. And that the jews should not condemn the Nazi's.
Masalaams
Your brother in Islam always
Showkot
P.S The verses in the Quran and hadith which condemn and curse the jews are talking about ALL jews per se, even the ones in your post who are protesting against Israel.
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Originally posted by showket: I know that we muslims living in the west have picked up many bad traits and characteristics from the kafireen, but that is no excuse to accuse fellow muslim brothers of being ignorent.
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Wasalaam. My apologies and I have removed the word ignorant from my earlier post.
[quote] P.S The verses in the Quran and hadith which condemn and curse the jews are talking about ALL jews per se, even the ones in your post who are protesting against Israel.
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Of course. The Quran makes it clear that all Jews, regardless of whether or not they wish to be fair towards Muslims or not, have violated their covenant with God, and have rejected His message. But even so, we are instructed to be fair with those who are not opposed to Islam and Muslims; making broad general statements about all Jews in America and Europe being hypocrital towards massive human rights violations does an injustice to the minority who do speak out.
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As is visible from the posts, the Zionists (I'm making a disctinction here from Jews) have created many problems.
However, let us not let our emotions lead our thoughts and actions so quickly. Sure these pictures are heartbreaking - anyone who doesn't feel pain, is heartless.
However, these recent moves by Sharon would never have happened - had a suicide bomber not done his work on Passover. That is like any non-muslim bombing Muslims when they are breaking their fast in Ramadan or in the middle of prayer. Suicide bombings are haraam, if you wish to use the Quran and the prophet's sayings. However, I am not saying that the palestinians have no right to retaliate. They should not use suicide bombings to do it - that is what got the Palestinians in this mess in the first place... I mean, haven't these people heard of a concept: its called "THROWING the bomb" and that too, not at civilians.
Please, do not mistake this post of mine as an actual recommendation. I am all for peace in the middle east. But I maintain my belief that BOTH sides are wrong, and that the only way to peace is by the negotiation table, although with the recent attacks on Arafat, I'm not sure how viable that is anymore. Also, another way that the Palestinians have caused themselves to be in this mess is the following: Instead of fighting the jihad of poverty, of illiteracy, of those factors within their society which twist religion for their political desires, and of general closemindedness and stuck-upedness (hehe too late at nite), they throw rocks and kill themselves. This is not pleasing to God, if it was you'd see the palestinians getting some aid from some natural means. And you just dont. I understand that there is much terror there and the Israelis should stop occupying the palestinian land. Of course. But , also of course the Palestinians need to lay off and seriously amend their thoughts and way of living.
Here's a side note: My father and his partners were looking to incorporate this palestinian into their firm. He seemed like a bright guy. In the middle of their talks, this guy randomly, out of nowhere, says looking at my father, "Hey do you guys know that in Karachi, there are beggers all over. The majority of the city consists of beggars". My father is sophisticated of course and doesn't succumb to such base remarks with base retorts. But this is the palestinian mentality. Being arab, they think they're the best. Sorry to say it, but they're suffering for a reason. Nothing happens without God's permission.
By the way, as far as ur side note goes, U CAN’T MAKE ANY CONCLUSIONS ABOUT PALESTENIAN MENTALITY. Just because your father had a bad experience doesn’t mean THE WHOLE ARAB RACE IS BAD.
The person you had a crush on in your adolescense, and who appeared curt and dismissive towards you, was merely playing “HARD TO GET”. This person continius to add to a drawer full of love letters written to you, but not yet sent.**