Signs of black magic/demonic possessions

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Re: Signs of black magic/demonic possessions

@Sady

First of all I did not understand the following part of your post so please explain:

It was meant to say that the religious information you are getting recently is half baked. Meaning you are being extreme and quick to label things as shirk. Which is a victory for bad influences.

Some of these things can have elements which look like shirk al-Akbar (associating partners with Allah The One) and shirk Al-Asghar (Riya-showing off -which most of us suffer from), with regards to shirk Al-Akbar (which is how the word shirk is being used here) we need to be careful about how we use the word. Meaning we should not accuse Muslims of it. The pristine religion shoots us down if we try to do this, it has rules that we need to abide by, including what fatawa we issue (like: x action is shirk)

What you are more likely to encounter is elements of kufr. These can take a hold of a person to such degree that they commit acts of shirk (Al-Akbar) Astagfirullah. However with incidences such as ‘asking humans’ and even ‘asking about unseen’ these examples would not qualify as being confirmed acts of shirk

Now just imagine if we started jumping up and down shouting Shirk Shirk for something that a) Was not Shirk b) We had no right to call it as Shirk

The shayateen would be helping us jump higher and shout more and at the same we would be displeasing Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala. We would become oppressors who are closer to shirk ourselves. So this is what i meant regarding jinn [meaning shayateen] giving us something which is on the apparent anti jinn

Secondly, even if (as per you) it is not shirk, I have seen how much powerful these aalims and jinns alone are without the power of the word of Quran. Someone convinced me to talk to another so called ‘aalim’ on the phone by saying that he will not ask mother’s name but only mine for identification purpose and will only make dua for me. He did not ask my mother’s name so they were right. Only asked to confirm if I had some body marks which he told me. I confirmed that yes it was me. Then he told me alot of things about me including the amliyaat part that someone who wanted to marry me but I rejected has done it on me to separate me from my parents. And he said our whole house and all family members were under such spell. Within the next week, I was told by the same person who had let me talk to him that that aalim had a brain hemorrhage and was in ICU. After that, I could not stay in touch with them. But after 2 years of that incident I got to talk to the same aalim again and he was so scared of me as if his brain hemorrhage was caused because of me. Another ‘aalim’ who told me several things had an accident and broke his arms.

What I mean is, if these entities are stronger than these aalims and their jinns, how can they help people? No entity evil or good is stronger than Allah. So these aalims and their jinns are very weak at the end of the day unless they cure through quran.

You are right to Believe in Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala and the attitude you have expressed earlier in this regard is MashAllah. I believe in your ability to gain the closeness to Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala and be more powerfully protected then these ‘alims’ and their more powerful entities! As you have said people spoke to you and broke their heads and arms! So we can say a) It is a coincidence b) they told you lies, and for those lies Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala (Your Protector) allowed punishment for them, and for you to be informed about these so that you know that you are protected! its a possibility, right? It can be said that you are so protected that even those liars were given mercy because of you that they received their immediate punishments in this world (unless they are to be punished again - on which i can not comment)

Real power is with Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala alone, Allah Ta’ala gives us some power which is nothing more then a metaphor. So we can not attribute this protection of you to any other then Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala. There will be means by which you are protected (eg angels), and possibly a waseela that you have taken (eg Worship, Love etc) or are to take or any other reason which is pleasing to Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala. So we can not attribute trial and tests nor protection and guidance to any other then Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala.

This all means you need not unduly worry about jinns and the unseen. A crossing of paths with them does not mean Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala has allowed them control over you. The Shaitan-the rejected- was scared of Hazrat Umar RadiAllahu Anhu. I reckon they will be petrified of you too

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