Showbiz and Qadyaniz/Perveziz

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Just recieved this in email. Posting without any comments.

Assalam-o-Alaikum Warahmatullah Friends and Brothers

This mail is solely to rectify and clarify any ambiguities regarding the Rutba of Hazrat Mohammad (S.A.W) with respect to our Iman and its importance. I am writing this mail on 22nd of November i.e. 15th of Ramazan. The speech by our masjid (Siiddiq-e-Akbar) Imam spawned me to write and distribute this mail.

The Imam while highlighting the Rutba of Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H) announced that there are some websites promoting Quranic teachings and discouraging people to respect the Holy Prophet (S.A.W) and his teachings i.e. hadees. These sites are mostly sponsored by Qadianis and Pervaizis. (Discussed later in the mail)

Firstly I would name the famous site by the name AlRehman-AlRahim. Although the name reflects that this is purely an Islamic site, but this site is misguiding people all over the world by creating doubts in the minds of the Muslims. Main target of this site is to discourage the Rutba of Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H) in a Momin’s hearts.
And let me tell u that our Iman is nothing without believe in the Rutba of Holy Prophet (S.A.W), because it is he (S.A.W) whom we’ll follow to the Jannah. A head office of this site is in PECHS run by Babar Chaudry.

A month back I heard Najam Sheraz talking about this site in one of the Television programs, probably Bundhun. All the time he talked about Quran and totally ignored the Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H). Later it was confirmed by authentic sources that he was a Pervaizi—who can easily inspire and misguide (by reciting Holy verses) any person with less knowledge about Islam. Other actors and actresses involved in this activity are Ali Afzal (Rescue 15), Farhan Ali Agha, Fazila Qazi and Qaiser Khan.

Another of such site is Al-Huda Internationals, promoted by Naseem Farhat. Her programs are also played on Indus Vision and ARY. She aims to make female Ulema during a periodic course.

They claim that the Holy Prophet (S.A.W) was a ‘postman’ (Naozobillah) this is the exact word used on the site. They say that Holy Prophet (S.A.W) has passed away doing his job and the he has no importance in our life (Belief of a Qadiani)..A simple reply for this claim is the QALMA -notice the wording carefully:
“Allah kay siwa koi ma-bood nahee aur Mohammad Allah Kay Rasool hain”

The last words "Mohammad (S.A.W) Allah kay Rasool hain ‘’ the word HAIN means that Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H) is there. A person does not transform into a Momin until his belief is solid as according to the Qalma. Definitely Hazrat Mohammad (S.A.W) by Allah’s will is part of our Iman and religion that is why the name is added to the Qalma and Darood Sharif added in our prayers.And a person without a minor defect in Iman won’t be allowed to enter the Jannah.

Qadianis attract people by wealth means and the do not believe in the fact that Hazrat Mohammad (S.A.W) is the last Messenger of Allah.

I want every reader to FWD this mail to as many as possible as it is a type of Jihad against the fallacy.

Thank U,
Writer: Hassan Ansari
For Questions contact “[email protected]”

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cut the story, just tell me what are pervezis????

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One more thing he failed to provide any Qdiyani (ahmadi) site. Which prooves his falshood against Ahmadiyyat.

The official Ahmadi site.

Ahmadiyya Muslim Web Site

So claiming something which is not believed by Ahmadi Muslim rejects this guyz philosophy. Its only Propaganda against different sects.

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Oh no.. such a grave sin :rolleyes:

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i wonder that person who wrote the email didnt know about Hazret Ayesha (ra). All islamic scholar says we learn haf of deen by Hazret Ayesha (ra). Now he is objecting on Female Aalim.

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^
i think those things mentioned were to identify the lady, not her sin....

her sin is to run a misleading site, and these things/activities r used as a cover-up....

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*Originally posted by insha_ji: *

i wonder that person who wrote the email didnt know about Hazret Ayesha (ra). All islamic scholar says we learn haf of deen by Hazret Ayesha (ra). Now he is objecting on Female Aalim.
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another wrong interpretation....

do u guys seriously read things or just scop up a line or two and start commenting on it????

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armughal as far as i know there is not much wrong with farhat hashmi. as a matter of fact pakistani mullahs have been after her for ages. how about you go to the site and point out what exactly is wrong before saying things like they are misleading people?

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I agree with ammar. Before spreading hatred first find out whats wrong with site. Then discuss what the right thing should be. Then send to the webmaster to correct it. Then you have done your job.

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Here’s the front page of the site for you..

http://alhudapk.com/index1.htm

Click on the sunnat kee ihmiyat link and see for yourself.. browse the site and tell me what you find.. Yes she might be wrong in a few minor things from what I’ve read but not guilty of what the article says and allahu alim.

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The Question remains....who are Pervezis????

Regards

A Mufakkari

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who can easily inspire and misguide (by reciting Holy verses)
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can someone be misguided by listening to holy verses from the Qur'an??.. I say we burn you alive for such blasphemy against the Holy Qur'an.

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*Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad: *
can someone be misguided by listening to holy verses from the Qur'an??.. I say we burn you alive for such blasphemy against the Holy Qur'an.
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PA quoting verses out of context can misguide easily and you know that just as well.

mufakkar, pervezis is a term often used to refer to those who reject the sunnah of the messenger.

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*Originally posted by ammarr: *
PA quoting verses out of context can misguide easily and you know that just as well.
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I know to what you're referring ammarr.. like the "...whatever the Messenger gives you, accept it, and from whatever he forbids you, keep back.." snippet which is always taken out of it's context and then used to declare the prophet as a parallel authority to Allah in declaring 'halaal' and 'haraam'.

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*Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad: *

I know to what you're referring ammarr.. like the "...whatever the Messenger gives you, accept it, and from whatever he forbids you, keep back.." snippet which is always taken out of it's context and then used to declare the prophet as a parallel authority to Allah in declaring 'halaal' and 'haraam'.
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bad example but we know what you mean PA.

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*Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad: *

can someone be misguided by listening to holy verses from the Qur'an??.. I say we burn you alive for such blasphemy against the Holy Qur'an.
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yes if listened to and interpreted wrongly, without trying to understand them in the light of hadith and sunna of the prophet, it is very possible....

infact, in u, we have a living example....

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sorry all ....it may sound off topic n well it actually is but i couldn't stop myself from postin it here

PakistaniAbroad...i read almost all post of yours ....but never tried to reply (i would say never dared to )

but if you are really willing to investigate why ppl are still following the old schollars etc. etc. ...i would recommend a book for you.....!!

but i'll tell you only if you r willing to read it without any bias ...!!
thanx :)

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Parveizis= a sect who follow Ch. Ghulam Ahmed Parvez's teachings. He was a learned civil servent in british india. He did not believe in miracles, and that you can pray and change anything through them. He tried to match science with faith in a logical way. I believe he was wrong in many of his assumptions.

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Re: Showbiz and Qadyaniz/Perveziz

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They say that Holy Prophet (S.A.W) has passed away doing his job and the he has no importance in our life (Belief of a Qadiani)
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Thats a lie...

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Qadianis attract people by wealth means and the do not believe in the fact that Hazrat Mohammad (S.A.W) is the last Messenger of Allah.
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I know where this mullah of yours is coming from... He was very eager to name a few people when it came to the pervezis.. why don't name a few people and organisations who attract people by wealth..

I see the topic of your thread is Re: Showbiz and Qadyaniz/Perveziz Please verify your Showbiz/Qadiyani link please.. And if you can't, please modify this topic.. as you have failed to provide any proof whatsoever in support of the argument from the "mullah" sahib..

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Originally posted by Afia: *
**PakistaniAbroad*...i read almost all post of yours ....but never tried to reply (i would say never dared to )

but if you are really willing to investigate why ppl are still following the old schollars etc. etc. ...i would recommend a book for you.....!!

but i'll tell you only if you r willing to read it without any bias ...!!
thanx :)
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Afia, I never knew i'm that scary!

please do let me know the name of the book.. although it's not as if I started on 'this side' of the road.. i was once like you but having read the 'works of scholars' and then turning back to the Qur'an i found so many discrepancies and blatant misguidance in the works of scholars that i attempted to understand the Qur'an on my own without someone purposely promptimg me to accept the illogical interpretation just because it was supposed to be popular or widely accepted by someone who had lived hundreds of years ago.

armughal

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yes if listened to and interpreted wrongly, without trying to understand them in the light of hadith and sunna of the prophet, it is very possible
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I dunno what's 'wrongly'.. referring to the Qur'an alone for guidance or referring to works of scholars to force feed crazy interpretations on the Qur'an..