Should there be a sequel for "Sholay

Bollywood sequel plans for mother of blockbusters draws fire in India
NEW DELHI, Dec 9 (AFP) -

A film director’s plans for a sequel to India’s most successful movie, made by his father, has sparked protests by film-world analysts who warn it will not only fail, but amount to the desecration of the monumental original.

Sascha Vijay Sippy is trying to allay fears his sequel, a debut, would either dim the immortal appeal of “Sholay” (Spark), made in 1975 by Ramesh Sippy, or divert from the action-packed original.

But India’s best-known film critic, Amita Malik, wants the Sippys from Bombay’s Bollywood tinsel world to abandon the making of “Sholay II,” which is slated for release in 2002.

“Such a stupendous film cannot be repeated and any attempt to make a sequel to Sholay should not be made,” Malik told AFP.

The original movie, whose theme revolves around two hired gunmen and a demonic bandit, is revered by many film distributors as the icon of the local industry, the world’s largest with an annual churnout rate of 300 films.

The 28-year-old Sippy in published comments insisted “Sholay II” would be a “masterpiece that will rival the first in every way and break and make many conventions” of Bollywood.

“‘Sholay’ has been adopted by the country as part of its fabric and ‘Sholay II’ will be a good complement to the earlier movie,” the untested director said of the original film, in which a police inspector hired the two mercenaries to kill the bandit.

According to Malik, no Indian commercial movie would ever outshine the myriad successes of the mega-thriller, which ends with the death of the outlaw and one of the two freelance gunmen.

The Hindi-language movie ran for a record five years in Bombay’s landmark Minarva theatre.

“Sholay” became the mother of all blockbusters as it drew packed houses for two years in hundreds of other Indian cinemas where the box office grossed figures beyond the wildest of dreams at the time.

The script of “Sholay,” starring the day’s five top actors and actresses, was a hit and for the first time an Indian film saw its dialogue cut one million records to become part of the Indian language for adolescents and adults alike.

Film analyst Nikhat Kazmi said “Sholay II” will flop as the theme of the original ended with the movie, and accused the Sippys’ — who never saw a hit after making “Sholay” – of encashing on the cult film’s “nostalgia.”

Javed Akhtar, who co-scripted “Sholay,” said: “I do not think it is possible to make a sequel because the story has ended and there are no character left to continue it.”

The past 25 years have also seen the death in real life of “Sholay’s” main photographer, the bandit and the inspector, and the retirement of G.P. Sippy, the grandfather and inspiration behind the original film.

Countering opposition to “Sholay II” is India’s top film historian Hameeduddin Mahmood who vehemently disagreed with the critics and said the sequel’s success was a possibility.

"Its success will depend on directorial competence, the project’s execution and whether it will have the same appeal in 110 nations where Indian films currently run.

“But it has to be on the same scale and magnitude and it has to be more brutal than ‘Sholay’,” the historian said.

Film-maker Anil Sari said a wealth of unused footage from the original could be used as background in “Sholay II” to turn it into a possible success.

“The young director should get a chance. Often, the young ones spring better ideas and maybe Sippy will perform a miracle,” Sari said.

My view is.. if it is a success, we will have another good movie. if it fails..only it fails..not the original.

There's no way a sequal can succeed - even if by some miracle it turned out to be good - it's doomed to be compared to the original

But I can't see it being a success, it's been a long time that the sippy's have had a decent film

Is the audience being fair to the cast and crew of the sequel when they impose a direct comparison to the original?

Yes, if the movie is a success it does well and the young Sippy gets to add a laurel leaf to his cap. Not many directors can lay claim to such a miracle. However if the movie fails the original is not harmed except to have a comment added after it's mention suggesting that a sequel didn't even match it.

Is there any sequel of a Hindi or an English film which was better and did well in the box office than the original.

Sippy's "Shakti" was a very good film with Dilip Kumar, Amitabh, Rakhee and Smita Patil in key roles.

It's like comparing a son's performance with his father if both are in same profession. Nitin Mukesh was a failure because he was always compared with his father Mukesh.

sarwar,
Shakti was an excellent film (I liked it better than sholay), but I can't think of any other sippy film since that has been very good.

As far as english film sequels being better, The Godfather II, was an excellent film, From the Star Wars Trilogy, I think the best was THe Empire Strikes Back

The sequel to a perfect film

``Sholay'' which was released in 1975, went on to become one of the biggest hits in Bollywood. Now a sequel is being planned. Will the magic be recreated again? V. GANGADHAR finds out...

THE NEW millennium may bring with it schemes for inter-planetary travel, improved electronic gadgets, double-storeyed aircraft and trains which whizz past by without touching the rails. But the Hindi film addict can look forward to something more exciting - a sequel to the all-time blockbuster ``Sholay''.

The Sippys, who produced and released Sholay'' in 1975, have announced that they are planning a sequel which may be calledSholay II''. But everything else is hush-hush. We are not remaking the mega-hit,'' explained Sascha Sippy, Chief Executive Officer, Sippy Films.We can only assure the fans that the sequel will be a worthy successor to the original.''

According to Sippy, the sequel will create new conventions and break the old ones, just like ``Sholay'' did 25 years back. The Sippys had been planning the sequel for more than two years.

Plans for the new film will go along with arrangements for celebrating the silver jubilee of the original. ``The sequel will feature a host of young talent and some veterans,'' announced G. P. Sippy, the grand old man of the family.

The talent search for the new faces will begin from January 2000. He also explained details for the celebrations. Thirty works of art inspired by `Sholay'' will be made by leading artistes and form part of aGlobal Sholay World Tour.' The Sippys plan to recreate Ramgarh village which was built near Bangalore for location shooting for the film.

The Sippys are, no doubt, expert film makers, but it will require some expertise to make a successful sequel to ``Sholay''. It was a truly a cult film which ran for 25 consecutive weeks at 90 centres all over the country. At the Minerva cinema in Mumbai, the film ran for 286 consecutive house-full weeks.

``Sholay'' had the largest viewership of any film in the world and its 1,100 prints exhibited throughout the country, is still a record. Such was the impact of the film's dialogue and songs, that for the first time, they were recorded and marketed separately.

Talking to people in Mumbai, I was surprised how many of them had watched ``Sholay'' more than once. In fact, the movie dragged men, women and children back to the theatres. The diehard fans watched the film five, six, seven times.

Dozens of fans saw it nearly 10 times and continued to do so on the small screen. Some of the comments made by the fans were telling. Sholay'' was not just a film, it was the experience of a lifetime,''Sholay'' was something which grew on you. You wanted to enjoy the experience again and again.''

The hundreds of fans spoken to were eager to share their `Sholaymania'. They discussed in detail which aspects of the film appealed to them most.

The character of Gabbar Singh (Amjad Khan), the clowning Veeru (Dharmendra), Basanti's (Hema Malini) frenzied dancing on the broken pieces of glass, the tender romance between Jai (Amitabh Bachchan) and the Thakur's widowed daughter-in-law (Jaya Bhaduri), the technical excellence of the film and the unforgettable music, particularly numbers like Yeh, dosti, hum nahin todenge' and the hauntingMehbooba..Mehbooba'.

`Sholay'' was supposed to be acurry western'. Yet in many ways, it was a typical khichidi' entertainer. The ingredients were mixed in such a way that thekhichidi' became appealing to everyone.

Explains Javed Akthar, who along with Salim Khan wrote the screenplay and dialogue for Sholay'',The film was based on a simple, earthy story which was packed with contrasting characters. All of them carefully drawn. Though labelled a curry western',`Sholay'' was typically Indian, a unique creation which reflected Indianness to the core.''

Take some of the characters. Gabbar Singh's sidekick, Kaalia (played by Vijay Khote) appeared for only seven minutes on the screen but to this day the screen name has stuck. Who can forget that chilling line, ``Ab tera kya hoga, Kaalia!'' before he is gunned down by Gabbar. Equally impressive was Sambha (McMohan).

Audiences in the theatre often shouted along with Gabbar the lines, Arre O Sambha!'.I have done hundreds of character roles,'' pointed out McMohan.`But I never knew this small role will immortalise me with my fans.''

The sentiments were shared by Hema Malini too. Basanti was not a subtle role,'' she told me.What made it appealing was the aura of innocence, affection and down to earth attitude that the character projected. During the shooting of the film, I became Basanti, the natural and simple village belle. The costumes fitted the role perfectly.''

The most unforgettable character, of course, was Gabbar Singh, immortalised by Amjad Khan. The film did not project Gabbar as the dhoti-clad, Devi-worshipping traditional `daku'. There was a touch of the Mexican bandit in him. Gabbar wore jeans which was quite an innovation.

Explains Ramesh Sippy, who was only 28 when he directed Sholay'':The villain in Hindi cinema came into his own with this role. Amjad fitted the character like a glove. He had a harsh face with a soft voice. Salim-Javed's dialogue which Amjad delivered in a sing-song eastern UP tilt proved so popular that audio cassettes with the villain's dialogue sold like hot cakes.''

Is it possible to produce a sequel to such a perfect film? The experiments with sequels (Jaws'',Gone with the Wind'', Omen'',Die Hard I'', Mad Max'') in Hollywood did not work out. In India, the sequel to the Dev Anand film,Jewel Thief'' was a disaster.

I would not be prepared to do a screenplay forSholay II'', if it was a mere continuation of the old film,'' explained Javed Akthar. ``Imitations seldom succeed. But if the plot had to be totally different and the characters new, then it might be a challenge. Who knows, I may even work with Salim saab.''

Hema Malini too, was not in favour of a mere continuation. ``A traditional sequel is not possible. I am not prepared to play an aged Basanti. But a new story, with new stars, shot in a new environment, could be acceptable to the audiences.''

We can expect Gabbar's sons or daughters landing in Ramgarh, thirsting for revenge. But mayhem and murder are out. The revenge has to be subtler.

Sholay II is not a good idea. Now that Amjad khan is dead, that takes away most of the fire.

But if Salim-Javed come together again and write a script, that would be wonerful. Breaking of that pair was very bad for Hindi cinema. Neither of them did much on their own. Looking at their works alone, I have following opinion. Javed on his own tends to be lyrical but expands the script a lot, e.g. sagar. On the other hand Salim is compact, e.g. naam but dialogues lack poetic touch when needed. The coming back of the pair would be great. They were fantastic, in Bachchan movies and some others.

Sholay was the story of two revengeful men, thakur and gabbar. the people who played these roles are no more. difficult to replace either of them.

[This message has been edited by ZZ (edited December 10, 1999).]

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